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Taking the Scenic Route...to a BFP - Page 92post #1821 of 221912/2/12 at 5:07ampost #1822 of 221912/2/12 at 5:27ampost #1823 of 221912/2/12 at 6:01am
skj - looks like a strong bfp, to me! i can see the frer! i'm glad you are feeling preggers... is it stronger than last time? i know this is a sticky one. it just HAS to be.
everyone else - will be back for personals... but quickly - lucille, i'm so so sorry :( and sila, welcome! please come hang with us!post #1824 of 221912/2/12 at 6:22ampost #1825 of 221912/2/12 at 6:53am
SKJ- The wondfo is definitely darker. I know the FRER is supposed to be the most accurate but it seems like a lot of people test better on the cheapies. I'm so happy for you and praying so hard that this is the sticky one. Enjoy feeling crummy :)
shell- Must be a dentist thing... our office is freezing too. I have a space heater in my operatory because or else it feels like an ice box! Thanks for the info on your follicles! Quads would be a LOT of work, a blessing of course but imagine the time off for bed rest, whoo...post #1826 of 221912/2/12 at 7:15ampost #1827 of 221912/2/12 at 8:08amThanks ladies! I know the wondfo was negative when my beta was 18. I tested when I was waiting for it to go to zero. So, hoping for the best. And, the wondfo looks darker today. I stopped myself from buying any more frers. Trying hard to just let go and let it be. I'm doing all I can - crinone twice a day - so nothing else I can do but wait
jpack - no meds this month but the crinone. I never got my period since the last mc. I'm going to have to lie about my lmp and, I held the frer in the cup o' pee for 15 seconds instead of 5 bc I lost the directions. I read that doing that can dilute the sample. So, I'm hoping that's what happened.
Will be back with personals in a bit.post #1828 of 221912/2/12 at 8:38ampost #1829 of 221912/2/12 at 1:06pm
I'm back. Hi all. I would like to join you all if that is ok. Unfortunately we are taking the scenic route in growing our family. I have read back to try to get to know some of you and your stories, but please be patient with me I'll use this first post to tell our story.
I'm 26, DH is 30 and we have a 3yr old DS that took us about 13 months to conceive. I naively thought the 2nd time would be faster. Here we are 25 months of trying later. Officially there is nothing "wrong" with either of us. All of my tests have come out "normal". My problem is that I don't ovulate regularly. In those 25 months I have ovulated less than half that. No egg, no baby. I have not been diagnosed with PCOS since I only have one symptom - not ovulating. I had a laproscopy and hysteroscopy 2 weeks ago to look for abnormalities and endometriosis (bc I do have endo symptoms). Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I'm perfect inside. But for some reason my body doesn't work right. DH's sperm are fine.
We've tried almost all "natural" things at one time or another. We have worked on and off with an RE since January. We've done 4 Clomid cycles, 3 with IUI's. All failed. The 1st cycle I didn't even respond to the Clomid, then even on the highest dose of Clomid I didn't have a good response. I only managed to produce 1 follicle each of those cycles. We actually have managed to catch a couple of my illusive eggs on our own. 2 early losses 6/11 and 9/12. All of my recurrent pregnancy loss work came back fine.
Currently we are going off the idea that though everything seems normal, my hormone levels on my own aren't enough to efficiently produce mature follicles and ovulate and aren't enough to sustain a pregnancy. We are planning and injectable cycle with IUI + progesterone for February. My RE is hoping that if we can closely monitor my hormones and get them to produce more than 1 good follicle, we have a good chance. However, 1 injectable cycle is going to cost us at least $3000 out of pocket (so jealous that Toothfairy's IVF cycle isn't even costing that much!). Money is going to be really tight.
In the meantime we are hoping for a miracle and are doing acupuncture 1-2x a week and I have started Chinese herbs again. I'm really just hoping I can at least ovulate on my own the next couple months. If a miracle does happen and I get a BFP I'm going right in this time. I'm currently CD14 with no signs of ovulating any time soon
Thank you for letting me share our story! I look forward to being a part of this journey with you guys.post #1830 of 221912/2/12 at 2:19pm
SKJ: Super excited for you!!
TF : yeah i would be terrified having quads lol .... But the bed rest sounds fantastic haha Ok I say that now... I would probably hate it if I really had to stay in bed.
Sila : I can relate to the "tight on money" we have borrowed and skimp to get this IVF and i only have 4 follicles... I am praying they find more come Tuesday !!post #1831 of 221912/2/12 at 2:27pm
Sila - Welcome. Not ovulating is nerve wracking. I probably spent a billion dollars on frers when AF wasn't showing up. Have you tried metformin? My endocrinologist (not RE) swears with the right combo of metformin and clomid she can get anyone with PCOS pregnant. It does sound like your history is very similar to mine. They even cancelled my first IVF claiming my PCOS was "brittle" which I think means my body almost resists the hormones needed to grow follies. Glad to have you hear and hope you and the rest of us are on a graduates thread next year this time!
SKJ, I see lines on everything. Let's get that beta test!!post #1832 of 221912/2/12 at 2:28pmpost #1833 of 221912/2/12 at 2:53pm
Gtree: yes they will put me under... They already prescribed some pain pills for me.. Tylenol 3 with codeine.... I am a little scared of the pain, My friend had to go to the hospital after ER because of the pain, but then again she had 20 eggs... I don't :-(
I have a general question... so I have these Tylenol 3 with codeine and i have had a migraine for 2 day's now... Nothing is working... Do Ya'll think it would be safe to take one of them now? or shoud I just continue to suffer till I can call the RE tomorrow?post #1834 of 221912/2/12 at 3:06pm
Shelly - I had 28 eggs retrieved and was fine. The tylenol with codeine helped, but I was really only cramp for a couple of days. I think on day 3, I was the most exhausted. Also my non-medical opinion is that you are totally fine taking one for your headache now. I didn't really restrict myself on meds leading up to the ER, not that I took a lot, but I def took a couple of things when i really needed them.post #1835 of 221912/2/12 at 5:21pm
Jpack - Hope you O shows soon.
TF - Yay for getting your shopping done!!
Lucille - I'm so very sorry. Hugs to you.
Sila - Welcome!
Shell - Good luck for Tuesday!!
Gtree - Wow! You do look like you're incubating 2 in there. lol Nice belly shot.
AFM - Af to start by Friday. Outside of that, I got nothing. Living the boring life.post #1836 of 221912/2/12 at 9:01pm
Phew, I'm all kinds of behind -- catching up now!
Indie, wait for your RE on the thyroid stuff -- you don't want them medicating you incorrectly, and your RE will undoubtedly have a range they want you in and an idea of how to get you there. However, if your RE does not offer you meds, push for answers. I'm always surprised when I explain the hows and why to a patient that they are in shock -- they have never been explained anything before. It's supposed to be a partnership between a patient and provider, and it's amazing to me how many providers think they still can exclusively call all the shots in someone's life without the courtesy of an explanation. Anyway, little rant there, but I want you to know that you are supported in pushing for what you know is right for you -- at the least, an explanation! Also, little white lies totally OK in this situation - seriously. We are planning a belly pic for tomorrow and I will post ASAP! :) I really think it's mostly bloat, and not too big at all, but it's a start.
Toothfairy, I'll be curious what your thyroid labs are -- get numbers next time and we can evaluate. :) Yes, I will hopefully have another U/S photo on Tues to share!! We'll see if it's still triangle baby. I absolutely am in awe at how little you have to pay for your meds and how awesome you have them now!!! That's reason enough to move to MA! Here we go, babe! Wow. OK, so I am obsessed with Pinterest. So fun. Especially baby stuff. Holy moly - all your shopping done today? Wow, you are a rock star!
Shell, believe me I understand. We were just about to do IVF, so I know how scared you are feeling because I was scared, too. The finances, the risk, etc. What I do know though is that you are going to be big and pregnant soon, and you will no longer care or worry about any of this stuff. Especially with quadruplets!! ;) I am SO excited to hear about your next steps in your journey!!
SKJ, omg, yay!!!! This is awesome! Sticky, sticky, sticky vibes! Beta tomorrow - exciting!!!
Gtree, you are so darn cute!! Look at you!! Hopefully I'm right behind ya, girl. Whoa, two more boys?! Phew.
Lucille, I'm so sorry for your loss. :(
Sila, welcome and thanks for sharing your story!
AFM, Christmas tree is up! We throw a party every year, so also was getting ready for it (next weekend). Excited for OB appt on Tues! Will update belly pic and updated sono pic soon! :)post #1837 of 221912/3/12 at 5:34am
skj - thinking of you today!! will be checking in often. i have such a good feeling about this one. i think your progesterone is going to come back great. i'm just so encouraged by your symptoms!
bebe - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU reading your thoughts helped me to chill. i'm not going to press the issue with my pcp but if he does decide to prescribe something, i will take it... my ivf consult is on the 18th and i can tell her what i'm doing and if she doesn't agree then i can change it up and i doubt any damage would have been done. yay for belly shot! we bought our christmas tree and have the lights on it but haven't decorated it yet... my dh wanted to go with lcd lights and he got the bright white ones so it looks like a neon sign. holy brightness!
chrissy - i've learned to fully embrace the boring life ;-)
sila - oh, wow. what a frustrating situation you are in. to go all the way through a lap and hysteroscopy and still not have answers. i'm sorry. i do hope injectables are exactly what you need. i totally understand your jealousy of tooth fairy! we are paying out of pocket for everything and it hurts! have you heard of freegaragesale.com? i read on the ivf thread that ladies sell their unused meds on there... still waiting to meet someone who actually tried it...
jpack - i am the same way... if something doesn't work, tweak it! why do the same thing over and over? that's how i felt when my first and only iui failed... i called in to ask, ok, what now? do we move on to injectables? and they wanted to repeat the same exact protocol. since i'm paying out of pocket, i wasn't cool with that option. but it looks like you get the same benefits as toothfairy? without the financial constraints, i would probably be more relaxed about trying the same thing multiple times...
shell - are you eating avocados? that's the only other thing i know of... also from what i read, your supposed to eat a high protein/low carb diet... but that's as i've got. can't wait for more updates!
toothfairy - sucks about the morphology issue but i've known of people to go straight to icsi regardless of numbers (didn't gtree do that?) simply because of better outcomes. i'd be totally relieved that that lunch got cancelled, too!
sherry - i know you are busy but i hope you are well!!
afm - not much happening over my way. though i thoroughly enjoyed reading about everyone's bra sizes and plastic surgery plans! haha. i'm in the a-cup club myself and was so excited to hear that skj went to a C with her first pregnancy! yay! boobs! i've had a love/hate relationship with my breast size... when i was super thin i was happy with them because they "matched" my body type... but when i put on some weight i wished for bigger ones to balance me out. i've played with the thought of enhancement after babies. but don't they have a shelf life? like don't you have to get them redone at some point?post #1838 of 221912/3/12 at 8:39am
Indie: hahaha ypu crack me up with the boobs... I had a size a when I was younger and had DD # 1 and went all the way to a F ( I got breast milk fever) (mastitus) so after they gave me a dry up pill they deflated like balloons so I looked like I had natural geographic boobs ... not a pretty site lol so after I had DD#2 I had them augmented cause i thought that was it for me with the babies... so that was 10 years ago that i had them done, So I will most definitley be getting them re-done after the twins ;-) ... I have been eating avacodos ... I need to eat more of them though.. I am going shoppping later for some healthy snacks.
Bebe: I am so excited about your Dr visit tomorrow... Mine is tomorrow too!! I hope I had doubled my eggs ... i have been trying to invision 8 eggs growing healthy and strong!! I can't wait to see the sono pic's !!
Chrissy; Boring life sounds wonderful at this point!!
Gtree: thank you, I did end up taking one... I don't think it worked ;-( I still have a headache UGH .... I wish i had 28 eggs!! really goes to show how different all our IF problems are . we are going to just do a 3 day blastocyst ... unless the embryologist thinks that we can do a 5 day... I guess its up to them :-) I know 5 day is better.... I can't believe it's all happeneing next weekend!! this is really IT!!
AFM: I woke up at 3 am with ahorrible Tummy ache... and was so sick, so i stayed home from work , I still have a bad headache and I am feeling really queasy I think I have that 24 hour virus that is going around ... even WITH me on the antibiotics! Tomorrow is lab and sono ... I have been trying to visualize 8 eggs growing... i hope it worked (fingers Crossed)post #1839 of 221912/3/12 at 8:40ampost #1840 of 221912/3/12 at 9:20am
Sila: Welcome on board!!!!
SKJ: Well my history is as follows: i have a four year old daughter whose name happens to be my profile name for this board..I and hubby decided to hold off trying for two years. We just started actively trying last year February, and this year I had an MC at 8 weeks in March. DD wasn't planned, she came in our first month together and DH decided he wanted to be fully ready before other kids came. Sometimes I wish I did not wait. Just sucks for me when I see other women go off the pill and get pregnant thereafter. My fingers are tightly crossed for you dear, that you will have a good, sticky BFP this month without IVF!
Jpack: Yes I am an attorney and I handle real estate transactions. I work for a real estate firm. Seriously you would prefer the broker aspect instead? Well I hate calculations that have nothing to do with my own income. i actually do like wrapping up the sales transactions and drafting agreements and yes its Nigeria. In my country property seems to be the hottest investment presently!
Shell: Yeah it was a chemical, and I feel this weird sense of relief that it was not an actual pregnancy. That would have hurt so bad. For the meds... I draw strength from all of you Ladies here.
Indie: I think your breast size is just perfect... but if you want to get an enhancement, go right ahead girl!. don"t know about the replacements but anything artificial will need replacing and updating right?
Chrissy: thanks girl, life is full of pains and gains right?
Tf: Gosh how do you keep up with all these information? I feel dizzy just reading about all the treatments one has to go through. I will need a lot of tutoring when that time comes. Please do hang around after your BFP, I will need all the knowledge I can find.
AFM: went to my OB/GYN and got a scan done today. He said my uterus was fine and no cysts. I wish he could have stopped there but he went on to say that I and DH were not trying hard enough and at that point Ladies, I felt like eating his head off. He then said he wanted us to keep actively trying for the next three months, seeing as DH is fertile, just to be sure if we needed the meds. I am not sure if i can trust his judgement at this point, but i will give it a try. So many confusing thoughts in my head and all of them boil down to one thing: I WANT ANOTHER BABY! I just hope that it works for us within these three months.
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