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post #621 of 2219

bebe - i say go with the fertileaid. anything to enhance ovulation! and i don't really look at it as a medication because you can take it as long as you like without serious consequences (unlike clomid, etc). i did take fertileaid (well, actually it was fertilityblend, but same-same) for several months after my m/c to get my cycles straightened out and i do think it worked (but then again, i was also taking chinese herbs and doing acupuncture so who can say for sure what specifically worked). i stopped before i went on clomid because i knew you weren't supposed to take vitex and clomid at the same time... 

 

afm: AF is threatening to start today. i wish she would hurry up so i can feel confident in scheduling my 3 day blood test. either way, it looks like the test will have to be over the weekend...

post #622 of 2219

Thanks, Indie! OK, Vitex it is this month! :) So did AF come for you? She has come for me in a serious way.

 

So hey, I was wondering . . . do you guys consider CD1 the first day that you have any full flow, including starting in the evening, or do you consider CD1 when you have full flow all day?

post #623 of 2219

bebe- ugh, no. i thought it was starting this morning but it's just been spotting, no actual flow yet. i'm pretty sure she will start tonight or tomorrow... as for when to count. i think i typically count cd1 as the first day of full flow if it shows up before early evening. but i'm not sure if there is a hard and fast rule on that or not?

 

toothfairy?

 

also GTREE? how's it going (though you are probably staying away from the boards like a good girl to keep yourself distracted)

 

sherry? how's the new house in the woods coming along?

 

greenmum, charley, chrissy, shell... beuller? beuller?

post #624 of 2219
I know at the RE CD1 is full flow before 3 pm but I think that is just because of when they close. With NaPro it is full flow by bedtime. My AF started at 7 last night so I consider that CD1 but I'm not going to do my femara til Satuday because I would rather take it a little late than a little early!

We are all together now... Time for usto put our collective 'foot down' and get us some BFPs.
post #625 of 2219

Ok. Gonna try and catch up here:

 

Bebe,Toothfairy, Indie - Wow. You ladies are almost cd triplets. lol

 

gtree, shell, sherry, greenmum - any news?! Hope you ladies are okay.

 

Afm - we had an interesting time at Dinosaur Land. It was just so cheesie. Happily ds didn't notice the spackle patches or holes in the dino's. lol I don't think we'll be visiting there again unless ds shows a huge interest in dinosaurs. Only on cd7 so no news there.

post #626 of 2219

Bebe- I love it, That's my new thing too I'm going to be a muma! I'm doing this, game face on! Go team!

Indie- I'm sorry, I thought this was looking so good for you.... I'm approaching my AF now, started spotting today.... I hate spotting.... I hate this...Yuck. But I’m on it this month, We are all getting Pregnant! Kay?

 

Tooth - I'm okay just want to say BFP... Not BFN.... Got Negative and temps started to decline, my temps where high for 16 days and that's HUGE for me I have Luteal deficiency so Clomid has lengthen my Luteal from 10 to 11 days to 16! At least I am having improvements…..

 

Chissy - Glad you had Cheezy fun! Sometimes that really is needed

AMF- I am starting today with brown spotting, will be full blown by late afternoon- Just in time to get out of work for the weekend! ….. my temps started to fall on Wednesday and then rose again on Thursday then dropped this morning down to pre-ovulation temp....

 

I'm trying on this "Bebe" Love Mantra - I'm getting pregnant this month! - I can see myself there and will be and there is no stopping me! We can do this, no more negative about this, that was so as paragraph! I'm doing IUI next week I'm going to rock my left side next week and get to see my first trimester before winter and get to tell family officially at Christmas, which has always been my dream, I want to do that - AND I  (WE) Will!!! Come on Ladies, change your perception with me, we can get pregers! We are getting pregnant, we will.... and picture it. This is also what my massage therapist told me to do, if you make it real in your head you can do anything you set your mind to, I think I sometimes hold on the to the negative energy and need to let go of that.....

post #627 of 2219

ha! watch out now... greenmum and bebe are fired up! clap.gif

 

i'm trying to get myself there, really i am.

 

looks like i will be doing iui with half tab of clomid days 3-7 this cycle. yikes2.gif i called the RE office to tell them today is cd 1 (more on that later) and they want to go ahead and move me through IUI this cycle. i asked dh what he thought and he said lets do it. so we're gonna do it. i can't help but be excited even though the chance of it working doesn't seem to be all that huge. i guess it feels good to be doing something and i figure even if it is a bust then we'll at least have a little more information like how my ovaries respond and how dh's swimmers are behaving these days. so it won't be a complete waste of money. 

 

as far as the whole spotting/when to count cd1 conversation... yesterday i thought i was going to start because i had a decent bit of dark red blood in the a.m. but then it went to sporadic spotting. then today i woke up and i was still spotting... until mid morning when i thought for sure i had started because of the amount/color. i called the REs office to set up blood work appointment and now for the rest of the day it has been back to spotting! i really don't know what to think. usually i spot for 2-3 days and then have one solid day of heavy-ish flow and then light flow/spotting for a few days after that... this time it is different with the apparent starting/stopping/spotting pattern. so i don't know if yesterday was actually cd 1, today is, or if i still haven't really started! but i'm going forward as if today is cd1. i just don't know what else to do at this point. but terribly confusing. any thoughts?

post #628 of 2219

oh, and also, i'm pretty sure my endo is back :(. i have had verrrry similar pain/discomfort as before the surgery. i've actually always had a smidge of familiar pain every cycle but this one has been like back to the old days :( i don't know if it's being off of femara, the supplements, or if things are just growing a fast rate? either way, it's discouraging. and i guess makes me all the more anxious to ramp up the interventions. 

 

bah.

post #629 of 2219
Have wondered that too but talked myself down... i don't think it comes that fast I think it just takes a while to fully heal inside. Your best chances (according to my doctors) are just starting now. 3-12 mos after surgery. I'd wait & see what tomorrow brings. I made the same mistake with my first CD1 bloodwork. How mantyDPO are you? Spotting can also be caused by immunity issues so dont immedoately suspect the endo. Your body is still detoxing from the prostaglandins so your immune sysyem is whacked. Hang in there, I'm hopeful for you this month! Oh, the bloodwork, it doesn't make a world of difference. If you feel like AF starts for real tomorrow I would just start the clomid onthe correct days.

Greenmum- the month of long LPs!!

I'll join your manta- this is it, we are all outta here. I see a new acupuncturist/ herbalist tomorrow. My friend got preg after 2 mos treatment with her (cooincidentally, baby girl was born TODAY!!!). we had the same endo spots and were treated by the same doctor too so i'm hopeful. Time for a baby. STAT.
post #630 of 2219
toothfairy - you make good sense! thanks for level headed logic, i feel much better after reading your thoughts! and also, yay for having a friend who is a little further down the same path you are walking! that is awesome and it sounds like you are so so close!!

ok, ladies. i'm in! let's make babies this cycle! (with our respective DHs, obvs!)

today i juiced my first shot of home grown wheatgrass, it wasn't nearly as complicated as i initially thought. i'm still swallowing loads of supplements three to four times a day, plan on going to acupuncture to support me during this clomid/iui cycle... i've got as good of a shot as anyone, right?

have any of you used castor oil packs? thoughts?
post #631 of 2219

I love the baby train!  August will be our month for BFPs!

 

Nothing new here, but this 2ww has felt like months.

post #632 of 2219
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone. Wow its been busy. I have been reecovering slowly...and sleeping through the percocet haze...and fighting the tummy trouble that goes along- prune juice smoothy anyone?
The house is coming slowly- i spent last week in the area- without internet-

Getting ready to start trying again. I cannot find my thermometer- grrr. Oh well.

Indie- i hope your new day 3's look good. And go iui!!! Yay.
chrissy- after i had been to the third dead presidents estate in two days in extreme heat...i'd have loved those messy dino's!!!

Bebe- good spirit!!!

And toothfairy i agree. Enough! Someone take the engine.

All else! Hey! Ive read pages but i feel out of the loop. Charley? Ms.d lurkers...
post #633 of 2219

sherry! so glad to see a post from you. been wondering how you're healing. prune juice smoothie. ha! glad to hear things are moving along with your new digs.

 

afm:

 

day 3 bloodwork results

 

fsh: 10.8

lh 3.11

e2 55.8

 

the nurse said that they like to see fsh below 10 but aren't overly concerned about the 10.8... but it does put me in the DOR catergory. yaaay. :(

 

they gave me an ultrasound on day 3 to check for cysts. i'm not sure why they didn't do an AFC. i do know there were follicles on both ovaries because the doctor was training a nurse on doing ultrasounds and as she was measuring my ovaries she was pointing out follicles here and there in the process. i asked afterwards if they had counted them, but they didn't.

 

next step is ultrasound and another E2 blood test on cd11 (next tuesday morning) and then trigger/iui based on that. i leave town evening of cd16 and return late cd17 but i'm not too worried as the latest i've ever ovulated is cd15...

 

what is everyone else up to?

post #634 of 2219

Hi Friends... I have been laying low.. I stopped temping, stopped everything basically .. I gave up :-( I was just so depressed. BUT I am back on the baby train this month, I started AF today and I called my RE (btw they are starting to really be rude to me) anyway I request injectables so this they called me in a script today and I about fell over when I found out how much it cost!!! they prescibed me 10 gonal F shots at 116.87 a shot and a trigger HCG shot at 60.00 WOW .... I know some of you have done the Gonal F so did your dr. prescribe you to do it 10 day's in a row?

that seems excessive? then I am am going in for my IUI and trigger then progesterone pills ... I just pray that I ovulate on my right side :-/ I am going to have my tcm focus on my right ovary lol I started taking my folic acid and pre natal pills again today ... I need to get pregnant this month .. I don't know how much longer I can handle this... I am applying for a loan so I can get IVF in September if this doesn't work. .. I know it's all a part of God's plan ... I just hope God's plan is for a little baby for me and my honey *** SIGH***

 

Indie : sounds like you are on the right track!! My fsh is 15.3 :-( But I am working on that with my tcm

 

Sherry: Yaay your back on the baby train too :-)

 

Gtree: I hope you get a bfp !!! 2 ww are miserable and they get worse with every month!!

 

bebe: I love your positive attitude... I am going to try and aquire that !!

 

Greenmum: have you ever had a iui before... I am having my first this month also :-)

 

Toothfairy: I love going to acupuncture ... mine told me I would be pregnant before the 15th visit.. I think I am on # 12 so this has to be my month!!

 

Chrissy: are you on any med's?

 

did I leave anyone out? Ugh I feel so out of the loop

post #635 of 2219

shell, so glad to hear from you. i don't know if you caught it but i posted a while back that i had the most vivid dream about you announcing your pregnancy on this thread. you were giving us beta numbers and everything and we were all celebrating hard core. i absolutely think you will end up with a baby. ever since this new revelation that my ovarian reserves are diminished i have been scouring the internet for information about high fsh/low amh pregnancy successes and i have so much more hope now (thank God for the internet!) you are still in the game! i can't say anything about gonal f... my RE wants me to do a low dose clomid (only 25 mg) and IUI. this is cool though... i am doing minimal stimulation, you are doing maximum... we can compare notes!

post #636 of 2219

Oh Indie that is so AWESOME ... I am trying HARD to make your dream come true LOL ... So today is cycle day 2 and I went in for a sono to make sure I don't have any cyst's and all is good No cyst... lining looks good... and guess what I have 10 follicles :-) OMG I was so happy... she said my fsh must have flucuated to lower cause she has never seen anyone with a 15 fsh have that many good looking follicles :-) THIS IS MY MONTH LADIES!!!!! I just know it!! I feel my baby forming already lol..... I start my Gonal f shots tomorrow ( a little nervous) but DH will be administering them to me. gonal f + hcg trigger+ iui = BFP .... I am trying this super positive low stress this whole month.

post #637 of 2219

Well, officially I can say the IUI did not work.  BFN.

 

AF came today, but I am counting tomorrow as day 1.  My plan is to start the IVF treatments next week.  again.

 

I also have 2 MTHFR mutations.

 

For the IVF they will have me on a lupron based schedule this time...

post #638 of 2219

gtree: i'm really excited about your upcoming IVF. august is the month for bfps, right? :) can you educate me on the MTHFR mutations? I see this mentioned a lot but I don't really understand the process... do they always test for the mutations when going through IVF or do you have to specifically ask for it? If they don't always test for it, how do they determine who to test? And what is the treatment? so many things left for me to learn...

 

shell: that is awesome about your follicle count! you have a terrific shot this cycle! i wish i knew what my count was but i'm thinking it was pretty low :( i guess all i really need is one (or two!) good eggs... 

 

afm: tomorrow night will be my last clomid dose. tuesday am will be my scan/bloodwork. i hope i actually see the doctor soon. more wheat grass today. blah. suddenly it is making me gag. i need to hide it in a smoothie or something...

 

bebe, toothfairy... how are you two doing??

post #639 of 2219

Indie - The things we put ourselves through.  When I did wheat grass once, I was surprised how much it tasted like grass...

 

So the MTHFR mutation - I really don't understand it, but my unprofessional explanation is that is causes miscarriages that can be prevented if you take a ton of folic acid.   They usually don't test for it, but my husband requested it.  They said they have no reason to test if you don't show symptoms, but I have no idea what those symptoms might be.  So, I say TEST!  Why not?  Taking extra folic acid pills are easy.

 

Day 1 is going to be tomorrow, I am already spotting.  I will be on BCP for 14 days as I am doing a lupron cycle and will need suppression.  I will keep you all informed of every step! :)   I'm so glad we are all going to get BFPs in August.  Lots of May babies!

post #640 of 2219
Thread Starter 
Hi all.
I can go with August. I always wanted a may babe but hit the months around it.

Mthfr always makes me think of swearing. Sorry Tyree but yay too!!!! Daily journal please!

Shell...stay calm that stuff can do a number on your emotions

Indies.....you almost sound like toothfairy....pro status sucks in this case

Sorrrry I am so missing....getting mil dss and dsd off on the big trip
flipping one house 350 miles away...and trying to buy one 400 miles away..while recovering too slowy.

Dh has just been diagnosed with a sudden onset hyperthyroidism.....working through all that...
But I got a kindle fire for my be and I love it
Tmi warning
First bd last night....crampy all day..and a little spotting...Cd 8 .......he says we cannot Ttc til Sept. In 6 days I'm gonna attack him.

Have a great weekend everyone!!!
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