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VBAC Mama support thread!

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

I know there are a couple of other VBAC mamas out there. I just wanted to say hi and to open up a thread where we can support each other in our endeavors.

 

This will be my second hospital VBAC. I had my cesarean section in 2006; it was an unnecessary c/s after an induction and "failure to progress." I joined ICAN in 2007 and have been active ever since. I live in Atlanta and we have a great, very active group. In fact, many many of my closest local friends are fellow ICANers. Besides supporting other cesarean and VBAC moms, I feel like I have learned so much about birth from being a part of ICAN. I have attended the last two international conferences (ICAN and St Louis), although sadly I don't think I will attend the one in 2013 because it's in Seattle and I just don't think I'm up to going to another far away conference with a mobile baby. (Prop to those who DO feel up to it, though. I had fun last time but it was pretty tiring with a 14 month old.)

 

I chose a hospital provider for a couple of reasons. We have two good, supportive hospital providers (one an OB, one an independent group of midwives) here. I've already had a hospital VBAC and it was an awesome experience. There are very few homebirth VBAC providers and I would risk out of a homebirth because of some non-VBAC reasons, anyway. So it was an easy choice for me and I feel very supportive. The one change I am making is a different doula this time.  My last doula was awesome but I was ready for a change.

 

I'm mostly not worried about VBACing again, except for the usual worries that come with giving birth--that there are some things that are just unpredictable. But mostly I'm feeling great!

 

Enough about me; what about you? How's your VBAC journey?

post #2 of 14

I am going for my first VBAC and I feel pretty confident about it. I had a whole host of issues with my son's pregnancy at the end and I think there were many contributing factors. I don't think he was in the right position; he had a pretty big head (I'm really small); I had pre-eclampsia that escalated to HELLP syndrome in labor (around hour 16 or so) and my labor was really intense. My water broke and my contractions were a minute long for every 1-2 minutes the entire time (25 hours). I started at a birth center and couldn't dilate past a 6 1/2 (which is why I think he was in the wrong position) and so I was transferred to a hospital. My midwife thought that an epidural might help relax me, but I never was able to dilate past 6 1/2. 

 

Anyway, I have been more active this time around (yoga and pilates) and I'm doing acupuncture and visiting the chiropractor. I feel much more confident that I'm in charge of my body this time. My partner and midwife seemed to give up on my last time while I was still ready to keep going. I'm also going to find a doula this time. I really wish I would have had with my last birth.

 

I'm also going with an OB this time because he's known as the best VBAC doctor in the area. He'll even do breech VBACs! Needless to say, I love him. His practice is also very family oriented and my son can stay overnight in the hospital with us. That's super important to me. I don't want him to feel excluded at all.

 

It's nice to meet you folkgirl! I'm sure there are many other mamas on this forum that are planning VBACs as well, so thanks for starting the thread! I meant to do it myself but kept forgetting. :)

post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 

sallyrae17, sounds like you have some great plans! Also sounds like you have a lot of perspective on your first birth, which I found helpful for me. It sounds like you are doing a lot of things to have a peaceful and active pregnancy. I loved birthing with a doula and I hope you will, too!

 

My OB also does breech deliveries, which is nice. He is literally so reassuring and open-minded to just about anything. I met him about 5 years ago, before I had my first VBAC with him. He just believes that a) women's bodies were designed to birth and b) that a vaginal birth is, barring emergency, safer for mom and baby. So refreshing.

post #4 of 14

Dammit, I lost my whole giant post.  Starting again.

 

I was also a birth center transfer.  I had several days of prodromal labor, and then two full days of active labor, both regular and back.  I made it to 9 cm at the birth center before stalling out and exhausting myself.  We tried every position, water, breast pump, cohosh, even breaking my waters at that point.  Nothing was working and I was done.  At the hospital we hoped an epidural would let me sleep and dilate fully on my own.  I did sleep, but I still wouldn't progress.  So I consented to Pitocin, which got me to 10, but letting the epidural wear off put me into panic attacks because I was afraid of the pain coming back because the back pain was so bad.  I still tried to push for about four hours but never felt any urges or instinct to push.  Finally I let them do the section.

 

I'm not using the birth center this time because we had to pay their bill and the bills from the hospital, which really crippled us financially.  I can't take the risk of that happening again.  Especially since there doesn't seem to be any one factor that led to the section.  Obviously her size was a factor, but I suspect bad positioning as well, since I had such terrible back pain.  Also I was so tired of the prodromal labor and nothing happening I think I went into the birth center too soon.  It was a nice place, very comfortable, but I think I could have distracted myself a lot better at home and been better rested by the end when it got really hard.

 

My primary has a very natural- and VBAC-friendly reputation, and I've been very happy with her so far.  Everyone there has said I'm an excellent candidate since obviously my body knows what to do, and no one's batted an eye about me wanting to be as natural as possible.  This time around I'm making more effort to eat better and exercise more, with the hope that I can keep my weight gain lower and hopefully grow a normal sized baby.  I also intend to keep a close eye on my sugar levels as I get further along.  I passed the GTT with Elsa at 28 weeks so if sugar was a problem it didn't happen until after that point.  I will be doing what I can to be informed about the size as well.  I know that fundal measurements and ultrasound are not very accurate for sizing but because it's such a concern for me I feel like I need to do what I can and unfortunately there are no better options.

 

I'm looking into a doula.  There is only one in my area that I can afford, so I hope I like her!  I think it would help a lot to have someone there just for me.  J tried, but he works a physically demanding job and is overtired most of the time, so when he's exhausted he's not much help.  I did an intensive chiropractic therapy for about six months before I got pregnant, and now I'm on a weekly adjustment schedule.  I'm hoping that will help with positioning and back pain.

 

Ideally, I would like to go into labor on my own, even if I've decided a section is the best option.  But what I'm scared of is what size could mean not just for the type of delivery, but what happens after.  The time after the birth was traumatizing for both of us.  Because she was so big they assumed she must have sugar issues and other problems so they took her away to do tests and I didn't know I had to ask for her back when they finished.  I thought they would just bring her when they were done, and they didn't, so I didn't even get to hold my baby for 24 hours.  It made nursing so hard, and I just completely withdrew. 

 

And I can't imagine what it must have been like for her to be poked and prodded and jostled when all she must have wanted was to nurse and be snuggled.  Not to mention how bad you feel having a kid that big.  I felt like a freak show, and still sometimes do.  So I'm sure if we suspect another supersize baby I will be tempted to schedule a section to skip all that.  But is the risk of taking the baby early worth it to avoid the separation and testing and depression?  Hopefully I won't have to make that decision at all, but I think about it sometimes.

post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 

Ninetales, you were in my DDC last time around and I remember your birth story. It sounds like you really did see it all in your last labor! Glad to see that you will be joining the VBAC hopeful club this time around!

 

I can definitely understand why you're going the hospital route this time considering your experience and the expense last time. As I mentioned above, I found a doula to be incredibly helpful. I am having to scrimp and pinch to afford mine, but based on my last experience I think it will be worth it for me, and I hope it will be for you, too. My husband is amazing, but I found that I really need him to be there for me in an emotional capacity and the doula just serves a different role. For whatever reason while in labor I am not open to hearing suggestions from him about position changes, etc. He just isn't an authority about birth to me, and my brain is not functioning on "rational" during labor so I just don't want to hear it at all!

 

I have GD in all my pregnancies, so even though my babies have not been big they have been really aggressive about sticking them--especially the first one when I had a cesarean. We were also separated for a long time just because the surgery, everyone was kind of shocked and out of it and we didn't know how to advocate for ourselves. When I was planning my first VBAC, I was really concerned about this happening again because that was the worst part of the cesarean experience for me. One thing I did that helped was have a really firm "cesarean birth plan" to basically minimize separation and to ensure if my daughter was not with me, she was with my husband (and he was actively participating, not just standing there and letting the nurses do whatever which is what he did the first time around). If the cesarean section went well (no major problems for me or baby) we were going to insist that she be with me in recovery. There is no reason why they couldn't do the BG checks in your room, whether you have a vaginal birth or a cesarean. If someone tries to claim it's "hospital policy" I would claim BS on that. It may be more convenient for them but that's not my problem. Also, we had issues with the sugar check the first time around because the nurse was not doing it properly (she was not using a heel warmer, which can cause inaccurate results, which led them to pressure me to supplement with formula). With my second daughter I insisted they follow the heel warming protocol. Frankly I think they "got" that I was a second time mom and didn't pull as much crap on me that time. If it sounds like I was a demanding patient, well, I was intent on approaching the situation more like a consumer than a victim. The first time around I let WAY too many people boss me around and tell me what I could and couldn't do with my own daughter. At this point I have been participating in medical decisions for my children for almost six years so i feel capable of participating even in the first hours after birth. And anyway, that first day or two is so precious, and the time with my daughter was so important to me that I didn't want any non-evidence-based policies to interfere.

 

Sorry for the soapbox. Just glad you're in this thread. :)

post #6 of 14

Yes, I'm admitting to myself that another section is possible, and I will be writing specifics into my birth plan for that possibility.  I was so sure I could advocate for myself and would never get bulldozed, but the fact that I'd never thought through what could happen led me to feeling intimidated and overwhelmed.  I know we didn't even bring up having her with me in recovery, and I'm sure J was more worried about me and didn't want to leave me alone.  This time if we have a doula I won't be alone so he can go with the baby if they won't do their tests in recovery with me.  Plus if I go in knowing it's a huge baby I will listen more to my instincts and not force myself to go through that long of labor again, so hopefully I won't be as destroyed.

post #7 of 14

This will be my third VBAC, and honestly I haven't thought twice about it. It's so odd to be labeled as a "VBAC" to me as my last two births (first was a c/s) were so non-eventful and straightforward.  I still have to sign the midwife's informed consent paper (blah blah blah!) but the concept of being a "VBAC" is just low on my priority list.

post #8 of 14

DD was an emergency c-section at 38 weeks due to her being breech (footling switched at last minute to frank). We knew she was breech and the 'emergency' was that my water broke - I had delayed the scheduled c-section until after her due date.

 

DS was a successful VBAC - although I didn't get my homebirth or natural birth.  Labor started at 42+3 and after 24 hours of little progress at home we transferred and then at 40 hours I just did the whole thing and had my water broke, pitocin and epidural - delivered at 51 hours after 45 minutes of pushing.  DS as also malpositioned despite chiropractic, yoga, accupuncture, inversions, etc... Grateful we had a dr and hospital very supportive of VBACs because I know any other spot in town they would've wheeled me in for a repeat section

 

Hoping I get to stay home this time.

 

sallyrae17 are you seeing Dr. H? He's who we transferred to - drove from Chaska to Hudson in morning rush hour traffic.  Hudson hospital was great- expect 1 night nurse. Dr. H was amazing no pressure, treated my midwives with respect, if non emergency transfer has to happen again we will definitely go back.

post #9 of 14

cc_mama - YES! I love him! He is so awesome. I'm in St. Paul, so it's only a half hour drive to get there. "Yeesh" to driving to Hudson from Chaska in rush hour. That's really my only concern - rush hour. :)

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Hello VBACing Mommas,

 

I've had one unplanned c-section and am going for my first VBAC. The local rural hospital is willing to do VBAC, although they never have done one before. I have concerns about an inexperienced nursing staff and all of their rules and regulations. My guts tells me if I labor their you could cut the tension in the room with a knife.

 

I put a very high value on my birth experience, so my dream is a waterbirth VBAC. I understand Dr. Hartung in Hudson, WI is amazing, so I have a consultation scheduled with him March 30. My husband doesn't know this yet and the thought of traveling 2+hrs to Hudson is crazy to him. [sigh] My doula raves about Dr. H and I've heard wonderful things about the supportive staff.

 

Any VBACing mommas hoping for a water labor or birth?

 

My first trimester was physically and emotionally taxing. I do have a supportive chiropractor who I hope to go to regularly, a massage therapist, and a gym membership that I haven't used since early pregnancy. Time for me to get moving. I know nutrition and exercise are very important and want to do all I can to be healthy.

 

Wishing you all the best!

 

Melissa in MN

post #12 of 14

Full immersion isn't an option for me because the hospital doesn't have tubs.  I tried the tub at the birth center with my first, but honestly it didn't do much for me.  I can see using the shower at home or at the hospital at some point, though.

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Originally Posted by mommamelissa View Post

 

I put a very high value on my birth experience, so my dream is a waterbirth VBAC. I understand Dr. Hartung in Hudson, WI is amazing, so I have a consultation scheduled with him March 30. My husband doesn't know this yet and the thought of traveling 2+hrs to Hudson is crazy to him. [sigh] My doula raves about Dr. H and I've heard wonderful things about the supportive staff.

 

Melissa in MN



Hey Melissa! I'm going to Hartung and I love him. He's the best VBAC doc out there and he's just so hands off - until you need him. Then, he's there all the way. I also love the clinic in Hudson. I don't feel like a number there - it's not too big at all. Two hours is kind of a long way to go, but it all depends on your labor. My last labor was super long and I'm not concerned at all about making it to the hospital on time..especially since it ended in a c-section. 

 

Do you know anyone in the twin cities area where you could stay around your due date or something? 

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If I do decide to go with Dr. Hartung in Hudson I feel like I really should stay near the Cities. (All of my mom's labors were short--1.5--4 hrs) :) I have a few connections in the area but haven't asked anyone yet. 

 

Thanks for the encouragement. Happy pregnancy and birthing to you!

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