Such negativity ladies! Wow! This is why I am cutting way back on posting. The amount of angry, rude, bitchy comments on MDC lately have gone waaaaaayy up.
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UC for twins? - Page 3post #41 of 504/15/12 at 10:00ampost #42 of 504/15/12 at 1:55pm
Holly, you are a nurse/cnm? who believes in active management for 3rd stage for ALL birthing women, and thinks ucers are stupid enough to decide to rip out their placentas or try their own manual extractions, and in your perfect world UC wouldn't exist. (as per this thread http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1345672/nurses-pushing-on-stomach-after-birth-help).
Here is the UA for this board:Quote:
The Unassisted Childbirth (UC) board is a forum of support, respectful requests for information and sharing of ideas and experiences. While we will not restrict discussions only to those who birth without professional attendants, we will actively discourage individuals from posting with no sincere interest in exploring UC. Proselytizing against UC will not be permitted
You really have no business posting here especially with such attitude. And after her successful twin uc birth, you will say what? luck? In your view of birth most women will certainly fail/die without your wonderful interventions. Not the view of most people around here.
post #43 of 504/15/12 at 3:28pmpost #44 of 504/15/12 at 3:30pmpost #45 of 504/15/12 at 4:11pmpost #46 of 504/15/12 at 5:46pmpost #47 of 504/16/12 at 5:49ampost #48 of 504/16/12 at 11:08am
I guess I see no problem with UC'ing twins, it is quite minutely more "dangerous" than UC'ing a singleton, which, by the way, I had ZERO complications before, during, or after my twin UC. That is less than a lot of other women with singletons can say. But I also made my decision knowing I was healthy, babies were healthy/in a good position. I also made my decision knowing when to transfer and what can go wrong in a twin labor/birth.
Yes, giving birth unassisted is taking a risk...so would have driving to the hospital on icy roads in the middle of winter. And so would have birthing in the hospital, especially for a mama that isn't comfortable there. For us, the benefit of UC outweighed the risks of hospital birth.post #49 of 504/17/12 at 9:33am
To the OP, I totally get where you are coming from and when I read your initial post I definitely got that the main reason for UC was because of bad experiences with the hospital births. I was faced with the same thing when I was discussing homebirth with my first UC babe. My friend shared her uc story and not only was it beautiful but it just felt right and I was hooked after that. She'd had a UC but I intended to get a midwife for myself, that was, until I found out how much it was going to cost... $4,500!!! Yikes! As a young couple we didn't have that much money and I was so incredibly upset thinking that now I would be forced to birth in the hospital because THAT was covered by the ins. I dreaded doing that again, I had my son in the hospital and though it wasn't nearly as traumatic as other women have experienced, it was horrible for me and my son and I DID NOT want to do that again. I began looking for a Christian midwife hoping I'd find someone nearby that would work with us on the cost but rather came across a website about Christians that planned their UC's. After reading this article it hit me, God gave me this child (we'd lost a baby and I prayed to become pregnant 9 months later and in two weeks I was!) and it just made more sense to put my trust and faith in my heavenly Father rather than doctors or midwives. My husband was unsupportive of it, in fact he thought I was nuts and was hands off the whole pregnancy because he was angry with me. My mother also was concerned (she lived with us and would be present) and didn't agree but knowing how hard headed and stubborn I was she knew I'd be doing it anyways and began researching herself. I spent the next months researching and learning every possible thing that could go wrong, how to recognize it and stocking up on natural remedies to have on hand. I rented a dopler, bought an infant resuscitation bag and researched, researched, researched. When it finally came time to birth my husband was being a jerk and I cried in the bathroom and then told him off, told him I wanted to just go to a hotel and birth alone that I didn't need him. He felt awful and appologized sincerely and suddenly became extremely helpful with his laboring wife. The labor was slow in the beginning starting and stopping over 36 hours with real labor lasting about 6 hours before baby was born. My mother had the joy of being able to catch her granddaughter and do you know, after that she was ecstatic about homebirth and UC and told EVERYONE proudly how she'd delivered her granddaughter! My husband's view also changed and he was so glad that our daughter was born in such a loving environment.
All that to say that a choice to UC based on lack of money is not a bad reason to choose it, if we had the money we never would've experienced a UC the first time and likely would've been fearful of doing it alone in future births.
I agree with what others wrote about how problems can arise even with the most well researched parents during a UC or HB but I've seen that a lot of times it IS due to mothers or parents ignorning their instinct that something is off or a midwife so sure of themselves that they don't listen or respect the laboring woman when she voices her instinctual concerns. I think if we could change this and get all midwifes to not only respect the instincts of a laboring woman but teach her to trust and respect it herself that we'd have a LOT less of those sad stories out there.
post #50 of 504/22/12 at 8:11pm
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