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Wow, so much going on I'm having a hard time keeping up again!

 

outdoorsy: Sorry about AF greensad.gif
 

Angela: How are you doing in your first TWW this time around?


Cananny: Any sign of AF today? What medication do they give you to start it?

 

mrsandmrs: I hope the u/s was gentle and went ok!

 

rs: Good luck with the IUI today!!

 

bwilliamson: Enjoy the cruise wave.gif (<---waving from the dock)
 

Allison: I have been told to ditch the temping too but I actually enjoy it and it give me fairly good information on when I O'd. I'm in Fairview Slopes btw so not as far west as you :)

 

esenbee: hug2.gif I don't think it's naive to expect you'd get pregnant right away. I always like to tell people there is no reason not to think you aren't fertile and able to get pregnant easily. Unless there is a known issue or really irregular cycles, etc. I believe it's better to go in thinking positive and expecting the best.

 

invitn: I think if you are doing more than one insem with fresh you could do one before the surge. It depends on when you O relative to your surge. This time around we don't start until I get a positive opk or Peak on the monitor - sometimes we start the day before. So, no I don't think it's necessary but it can't hurt!
 

Hopeful: Yay for high temps!



Afm: To answer the two QOTD I missed....I gave up caffeine about a month or so before starting TTC and I don't drink it at all. I do drink decaf coffee and decaf black tea though. And as for keeping busy while TTC...it's a lot easier this time around as a 2 year old is fairly distracting ;) My DP isn't as vocal or communicative about TTC as me so she doesn't really talk about it at all actually. I get it all out on here ;)

 

I'm halfway through the cleanse. I've had a dairy 3 times (a small amount) as a necessity or I would have starved when out lol It's going fine but a bit more intense on the bowels that I remember.  redface.gif I'm doing the Wild Rose cleanse (someone asked). My acupuncturist suggested it or one called Medi Cleanse. I've done the Wild Rose one in the past and it was 40 bucks compared with 300ish so I opted for the cheaper cleanse lol

 

After not spotting for a couple of days I started again with brown wet and ewcm. I started temping as well and my temps are much higher than usual for this time in my cycle. Although today it dropped a bit. I'm going to guess that I won't O this cycle. Which is fine...I'm still hoping for a normal length cycle though.

 

2 weeks until Vegas!

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Belatedly threadcrashing to send NosReves a big hug and to tell her to remind her DP that I was 41 when I got pregnant, and now my li'l biscuit is almost a year old. It's hard, but don't give up.

 

 

Love and luck to all you wonderful ones xoxo

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Just briefly stopping by to say thank you for everyone's well wishes and hugs.  After a sleepless night two nights ago, I decided that I will not be dealing with my thyroid issue right away.  Frankly, I am scared out of my mind and haven't had much time to process it all.  I've done a bit of internet research and decided that it will need to be done, as I couldn't really find any natural alternatives, but I will hold off til after I graduate in May.  In addition to me being scared, I can't really miss much school either.  So, until May we will be continuing TTC.

 

Please move me to Waiting to O?

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Hope everyone is well. If you're interested, I've set up my FF home page so you can view that lovely 39-day cycle I just finished. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3b626e

post #105 of 349

Hey everyone!

 

Nos -I've no idea what that means; I'm guessing it probably does, but I'm not a doctor. I agree with the suggestion to ask the Belgian docs about it. How's the TWW going, btw?

 

Junebug -Ouch! I'd faint if I had to inject myself at all, much less with a shot that big! I can't even look at needles. Would you mind telling me what PIO is? Is it a standard part of IVF? I don't know much about IVF, I'm afraid. Good luck on Wednesday! I hope this cycle is it for you and your DP!

 

Carmen -I'm glad the cleanse is going well. I hope you get to insem next month.

 

AFM: The IUI went great this morning! Our red-headed Irish bloke had a count of 25 million. Not bad. I'm having tons of "O" pain, so I think we nailed the timing. My left side hurts almost as bad as my right, so I'm wondering if I might have had another follie or two on the back side that the wand couldn't pick up. Does anyone know if that's possible?

 

Allison -multiples are fun, but scary! And not just the health stuff. DW has a set of triplet cousins. Great boys. They're 11. I've seen how much they eat. I can't imagine trying to feed those boys! I had a bit of a bad dream last night about having triplets. The babies were fine, which was great; but the whole dream involved DW and I standing in a car lot, each holding a car seat with a third on the ground, and we were arguing over what kind of vehicle to buy! DW didn't want to sell our current car, and I was trying to convince her that we had to, because we couldn't fit three babies in it and I was NOT going to walk home!

 

Tomorrow is The Day. It's still bothering me, but not as much as it was. The 5th and 10th anniversaries were pretty rough, but it hasn't bothered me so much in the past couple of years. I guess it's affecting me more this year because of TTC and because he's now officially been gone half my life. I'm just hoping for a reason to like March a little more in the next couple of weeks.

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A good injectible response is based on a couple of things. A CD3 baseline ultrasound will give any woman an idea of approximately how many follicles they would have to grow in a stimulated cycle. They primarily look for 8+ as a good measurement of whether you have a good set of follies. If they're seeing less than 8 at a CD3 ultrasound, then you might be considered to have Premature Ovarian Reserve or low ovarian reserve. Once they've determined that, you have a couple of stim options (Clomid, Femara, injectibles), with injectibles providing the best potential chance for maturing the most of your follicles to a good size. If the majority of your follies hit the preferred size by the time they want to trigger, then you've had a good response to the stims. If you didn't, it doesn't necessarily mean low ovarian reserve, it just might mean you're going to need a different dose or set of stims the next time around to get better results.

 

Stims are a game for the doctors. They basically start you out based on age and weight. The first time you're on stims is a bit of a research project for them. As time wears on (and stim cycles wear on) they tweak the stims to try to get the best result possible. This is why some women will do a stim cycle with an IUI just to see how they respond before getting into IVF.

 

Nosrevs: I'm sure your ultrasound tech does this with your DP but wanted to make sure they're pressing down hard on her belly to try to get the ovaries to show up. A good technician might bruise you to get the results but they work hard to try to find them! Hugs to her. I know the frustration and upset of these things.

 

Hope that helps to clarify.

 

Krista

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esenbee - exciting decision! hope this cycle is it for you!

 

rs - whoa, those numbers are amazing! when we did IUIs, we never got more than about 5 or 6 million. sounds like your timing was awesome too! fingers crossed!

 

to answer your question, PIO = progesterone in oil.  it's given intramuscularly in the rear/hip (and honestly, i try not to look at the needle too much either! dw draws it up and does the injection for me).  with frozen embryo cycles, some REs will do it naturally, with no drugs, just based on the timing of your own cycle.  the more common approach though - and what my RE does - is to have the cycle totally medicated, monitored, and controlled.  so, the protocol is to start with a month of birth control pills to give your body a "break", then lupron injections (to suppress ovulation) and estrogen pills (to build the uterine lining).  once the lining is at the proper thickness, you start the PIO (which simulates your body's production of progesterone at ovulation).  3 or 5 days later is the transfer (of either a 3 or 5 day old embryo, depending on what you have frozen).  along the way there is also two rounds of antibiotics and a steroid.  after transfer, you continue PIO and estrogen through the pregnancy test and, if pregnant, throughout the whole first trimester.  so, it's kinda crazy, but it worked for me before so i'm doing the same protocol again.

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Junebug: augh!  IM needles!  Augh!!  My BFF takes lupron for a completely unrelated reason to IVF and sometimes I do it for her.  Can it not go in your bicep?  Can you rotate locations?

 

Carmen, yes... just slightly more west of you.  But not for long!!  Do you ever go to the farmer's market @ Nat Bailey Stadium/summer markets?  And what was up with the wind this morning????  Good luck on the rest of your cleanse!  I did NOT react well with the wild rose one (my acupuncturist says this is not uncommon), but I did do the medi-clear one (well... had the protein powder stuff, and it wasn't $300... it wasn't much more than the wild rose, and I was so sick by that point that I just did whatever my ND told me to do).  Sounds like you and the Wild Rose get along plenty well though!  :D

 

Rs, your dream made me laugh.  I've heard that with multiples, the babies learn to be more patient, since their parents only have so many arms.  My *favourite* thing to do with our prem twins at work is to put them skin to skin with mom/dad/grandma/whoever at the same time.  So. Insanely. Cute.  Hurts my head.  It's even funnier when they start to whack each other, or poke each other.  I cared for two little twins last week and I kept posing them while they were snuggled with Mom.  She and I had *way* too much fun with them.  ;)

 

Esen, good luck!  Health crisis' suck.  They *never* come at a good moment.  I hope everything turns out well in May!  :D

 

DW is starting to pack our house.  I'm working on my assignments for work (currently working on "The Effects of Critical Illness in neonates on Families".  I want to put my head through a wall.).  It'll all be over soon though!

post #109 of 349
nope...still no sign of af .....seeing re tomorrow....i will go on proverra to make AF come....i hate going on it...makes af prety brutal and me pretty ugly greensad.gif ....

nores....i second krista...i have hide and seek ovaries like your dp...and last cycle had the worst bruise fro m the pushing to find my ovaries ....so hopefully the docs are doing that for dp ....i also have a high bmi...but don't get me started on that whole subject
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Cananny: Good luck at your RE appt tomorrow!

 

RS: Wow it's great to hear that your doc says that you responded so well to the drugs. It's always nice in this process when you get the reaction/result that you are expecting. Sorry to hear that you have had crazy physical sx. It's hard to distract yourself enough during tww without having to deal with feeling yucky. Btw, should I move you to "waiting to know" ?

 

Oh and I wish you a peaceful and calm day tomorrow and  you received signs throughout the day that your dad is near by in spirit. Lots of hugs.

 

Allison: That is nice that your wife is feeling preggos, and I also completely understand your plan of just trying to ignore those symptoms. Good luck getting down with your paper. I admire anyone who works crazy shift work and also goes to school. 

 

June: Thanks for your response with the QOTD. The whole subject of feeling like our life is on hold makes me a little sad particularly when I look at pics of our honeymoon from May 2010. We were so happy and careful, it was a month before my beloved canine of 11yrs was dx with lymphoma and DW and I started ttc. Yes it's been a rocky twisted journey since the fun filled sunny days in Maui...We haven't had a vacation since. Perhaps DW and I need to make more of an effort to do fun day trips. Also thanks for explaining the protocol you have been following. So sorry to hear about the nausea and the soreness from the needle. Hopefully soon you will be with child again and you will see that it is worth all this pain.

 

LibraryLady: Rock on! It is so awesome to hear that you got pregnant at 41 y/o. It's definitely inspiring to me especially on days that I'm getting really down on my own fertility.

 

Essen: Wow you are dealing with all this and you are in school too! You are a trooper. 

 

Krista: I so appreciate your wise and knowledgable posts. I hope you are well too.

 

AFM: so I'm on CD 7 and still having some fun post menstrual cm. Thanks so much for everyone's posts about my insem dilemma. So FF predicts that my fertile days will be this saturday through Monday and then it predicts I could 0 anytime between Tuesday and Friday of next week. I truly haven't figured out when I typically O...anywhere between 24-36 hrs maybe after the surge. So who knows...KD isn't going to be avail Saturday through Monday...which will be the prime time of my fertile days according FF. So DW and I discussed just taking our chances and insemming as close to this weekend at possible and then again when KD is avail on tuesday possibly. So hopefully this cycle won't be a wash. 

 

Hope everyone had a great start to the week!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Junebug -Wow, that's some protocol! I hope it works for you, and you get pregnant this cycle! Our bank guarantees 10 million for all samples; our lowest number thus far was 20, and our highest was 39! This was a new donor, so we were a bit worried about the count, but it worked out.

 

Allison: I really hope this cycle is it for you. Your DW has some really positive symptoms. Good luck on the move; I know how stressful that can be. That paper sounds like it will be even more stressful.

 

Cananny: Ouch. Provera sucks. Give yourself some TLC over the next few days.

 

Invitin: Yes, please me to waiting to know. I hope this cycle isn't a wash for you. I think it would be good for you and DW to plan a special day trip together. It might relieve a lot of the stress of ttc.

 

AFM: I haven't had any of the sharp pains of "O" in over 12 hours (and the last time came several hours after the majority of the pain), so I think the shows over in the regard. However, I am *very* sore this morning. My stomach feels bruised. I'm really hopeful about this month; we had good sperm, good timing, and four good follicles. We'll see! 

post #112 of 349

Thinking about you rs - I hope your day is filled with wonderful memories.

post #113 of 349
Hi all! I'm on my phone, so this might bs brief/messy.

RS- Thinking of you today, and like Carmen, hoping there are happy memories involved.

Junebug- you are so brave. My DP is trans, and gives himself a testosterone shot every two weeks. I can't watch (let alone do it for him) and I'm not even the one getting the shot.

Esenbee- so sorry for all that you're going through. FWIW, I've had several friends have thyroid surgery- one who had cancer- and it all went fine. Not sure exactly what you are dealing with, but thyroid cancer has something like a 98% percent survival rate for people in their 20s and 30s.

Someone was talking about sperm counts, and I thought I'd share my experience from last time around. We did 6 unmedicated IUI cycles, two of which resulted in pregnancy. My bank (TSBC) guarantees 20 million minimum, so mine all had at least that. 4 of my cycles were with vials under 30 million. The two cycles I got pregnant, the counts were above 50 million. So for me, higher counts really made a difference. I know not all banks will tell you the #s ahead of time, but it's worth pushing your bank a little on this if you can. TSBC will tell you the count of any vial, but I didn't know that at first! Our current donor has a count of 88 million. Yikes. My body doesn't even know what to do with that much sperm.

AFM, we went to Asheville, NC for the weekend to visit my sister, which was great. I just needed a break from everything. I have been feeling crampy for the past few days. I am trying very hard not to read anything into it. But, I did email the one homebirth midwife in our area to ask her some questions and introduce myself. I guess that's sort of my equivalent of setting up the nursery.smile.gif (Which, by the way, we never did- when DD was born, we lived in a one bedroom apartment, so she just slept with us.)

Okay, back to work. Baby dust to all!
post #114 of 349
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Hi all! I'm on my phone, so this might bs brief/messy.
RS- Thinking of you today, and like Carmen, hoping there are happy memories involved.
Junebug- you are so brave. My DP is trans, and gives himself a testosterone shot every two weeks. I can't watch (let alone do it for him) and I'm not even the one getting the shot.
Esenbee- so sorry for all that you're going through. FWIW, I've had several friends have thyroid surgery- one who had cancer- and it all went fine. Not sure exactly what you are dealing with, but thyroid cancer has something like a 98% percent survival rate for people in their 20s and 30s.
Someone was talking about sperm counts, and I thought I'd share my experience from last time around. We did 6 unmedicated IUI cycles, two of which resulted in pregnancy. My bank (TSBC) guarantees 20 million minimum, so mine all had at least that. 4 of my cycles were with vials under 30 million. The two cycles I got pregnant, the counts were above 50 million. So for me, higher counts really made a difference. I know not all banks will tell you the #s ahead of time, but it's worth pushing your bank a little on this if you can. TSBC will tell you the count of any vial, but I didn't know that at first! Our current donor has a count of 88 million. Yikes. My body doesn't even know what to do with that much sperm.
AFM, we went to Asheville, NC for the weekend to visit my sister, which was great. I just needed a break from everything. I have been feeling crampy for the past few days. I am trying very hard not to read anything into it. But, I did email the one homebirth midwife in our area to ask her some questions and introduce myself. I guess that's sort of my equivalent of setting up the nursery.smile.gif (Which, by the way, we never did- when DD was born, we lived in a one bedroom apartment, so she just slept with us.)
Okay, back to work. Baby dust to all!

we use that bank...and our counts each time were 75 mil...i like high counts:)
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I think I need to stop posting here for a little while, maybe a week or two. I need to take my mind off ttc a little, even though I'll be preparing for next cycle. I used to have a really intense job, but I left last year around the time we started inseminating to take a part-time job I do from home. I thought I'd be pregnant by now, but instead I'm at home in solitary without co-workers, depressed and lonely and unable to keep my mind on my work, which is writing. My work is going shi#%y, which makes the whole thing worse.

 

Don't put me in "taking a break." I'll be back soon, I'm sure, due to the aforementioned loneliness. I'll try to check back to help celebrate the BFPs of the wonderful women/womyn on here. Special good-luck shout-out to nosreves in the TWW.

 

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post #116 of 349

Hi everyone

 

Went to the RE today and we are moving to a clomid/injectables protocal and staying on the metformin. I am also starting prometrium to make AF show up! The new protocal requires daily blood work, and u/s on CD 3 and then every other day until the follicles are mature and we are ready to do an IUI. It is a lot, but hoping this will be the ticket... DP says she is moving out for 2 weeks;) lol she is scared of all the medicine I am taking . she of course is joking but I do hope its not to brutal on her or me :)

 

Sorry no energy for personals.. but RS hope today was ok for you.. and good follicle sizes!

No res.. how are u feeling.. where are u hiding these days?

 

hi everyone else...

 


Edited by Cananny - 3/13/12 at 11:11pm
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just a quick note from the road to Belgium. thanks to library for the sweet message. DP says to tell you that it really made her feel better. I'll give my SC peeps a shout on Facebook to see if anyone has advice or suggestions. get ready for a *lot* of orange and purple. krista, thanks for the info and encouraging words for my DP. should the doctor (it's an actual md)be pressing even with a transvaginal u/s?

amt -- have you tested yet??? how are you and your DP?

cananny -- yay for the mixed cycle! i am going to ask the belgian doc about that for my DPtoday. hopefully, it's just what you need.

rs -- i was thinking of you yesterday. i hope it wasn't too painful and that you found some peace and maybe even some hope during that hard time.

Greets to everyone else. We'rejust outside of lille and almost to the border so i have to stop here or incur a massive phone charge for international roaming. Sending out lots of love and good vibes as we make our way to waffle world. à bientôt! joy.gif
post #118 of 349

Thanks for the well wishes everyone. Yesterday was kind of rough, but I got through it. These progesterone supplements are awful. I take them and 20 minutes later it's instant depression time. crap.gif

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Nos-Thank you so much for asking about us, we are great! Yes, I tested yesterday morning and it was a BFN! AF is due today but no sign of her. When I got preggers with our eldest I never got a HPT to show postive I had to have a blood test before I got my BFP. So who knows...I will wait a few more days then go have a blood test. You asked about DW having MS, well the answer is yes and no. She has transvers myelitis. Which is "MS" of the back. MS is defined by the lesions of the brain but DW only has lesions in her spine. The DRs were able to shrink the lesions with steroids giving her feeling in her body back then they put her on an immune suppressing drug to keep her from getting new lesions and FX keep this from turning into MS. With her having no immune system she gets sick very easy but the DR put her on 4 more o/c vitmins to help her stay healthy longer. To me all of this is great wonderful delightful news since when this started back in 2009 they were telling her that she would be disabled (in a wheel chair wearing a diaper and drooling on herself) by the time she was 40-45 yrs old and prolly die by the time she was 50-55 yrs old, now giving this med works like they believe it is she should live a long healthy life and be able to grow old with me...as long as her job(police officer) don't get her lol! Wow! Enough about me! How are you and DP? Are you going to test soon or just wait to see if AF shows?

 

Outdoorsy-I am soo sorry you are feeling so down. I hope you start to feel up again soon! We are all here for you!

 

Carmen-How are you feeling?

 

Invitn-I hope this long shot of a month is the month for you!

 

AFU-Like I told Nos I tested yesterday morning(14dpo) and it was a BFN. If this next cycle doesn't work I think we will move to haveing a DR help us but still insem at home. DW feels if she is not the one who "does the deed" then it is not hers. This TWW has flown by. We have been car shopping and found one we got it a lil over a week ago. It is my primary car(SUV) and I love love love it! Also with my sister having her baby we have been busy with family stuff plus the weather has been super nice so we try to stay busy doing things when the weather is nice. Well I think I have rambled on long enough.

 

dust.gifTO ALL!!!

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I don't have time for personals but wanted to rant a little. ( I hope thats ok)

 

So last night I POAS and then didn't want to look at the results so I had DW go in and look. She came out and said it was negative. This morning when I went into the bathroom the test was still on the counter and there was a faint line there! So then I took three more tests and not a single one of them had even the faintest of lines. What the hell????? Talk about torture!!!

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