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Pneumonia and refusing liquids

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
My poor ds has pneumonia, and is also vomitting and diarrhea. But he is now refusing to nurse! Help! I don't want to rely on pedialyte to keep him hydrated. Any tricks?
post #2 of 12

It doesn't sound like "tricks" are what you need.  It sounds like you have to give him liquid at any costs.  "Vomiting and diarrhea"?  Has he seen a doctor?  There are other options than Pedialyte, depending on how old your ds is--chicken broth, gelatin, popsicles, ice-- but it sounds like you need to stop right now and get this kid to the doctor.  

 

Vomiting and diarrhea and pneumonia are a deadly combination.

 

Read that again.

 

DEADLY.  Do whatever you have to do to hydrate this child.   And yes, that means Pedialyte if you have to.

 

post #3 of 12

I say go to the Dr. or an urgent care center.

 

Also, noticed this was posted much earlier today - any updates OP?

post #4 of 12
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we had just gotten back from emergency a few hours before i wrote my post. I started convincing him to nurse as he drifted off and now we're good. I've managed to get lotsa fluids in this kid mostly breastmilk. I am aware of the signs of dehydration, we have lots of wet diapers, wet tears and he is nice and plump, not looking dehydrated in the least.

 

I know that not everyone is up on their health info, but the pp seemed a wee bit dramatic.

post #5 of 12

Without knowing if the child had seen the doctor or how the exact age of the child, I felt like someone who posted about a child with not just pneumonia but vomiting and diarrhea and not nursing needs to be reminded that seeking medical advice online was probably not a good idea.  That is why I asked if you had seen a doctor. Yes, the death part was a bit dramatic, but without knowing the answer to these key questions I think not telling someone that this kind of thing could be life threatening would be irresponsible.

 

Good to know that all is well.  And good to know that you weren't the idiot asking for advice from strangers about a potentially dangerous condition in lieu of seeking treatment.  I posted the way I did JUST IN CASE!  

 

When my daughter was 10mo, she also had pneumonia and was not taking liquids.  She was very nearly hospitalized, but her ped thought that would be worse than just treating her, so I've had some personal experience with this and I was not as relaxed as you sounded!

post #6 of 12
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I see your point. Perhaps I'm feeling sensitive. We were at the hospital until 4 am and I am exhausted. He is 20 months btw...so not an infant, so I guess thinking it could be a baby intensifies the stakes.

 

Sweetsilver...what kind of popcicles would you give? He has been good nursing and will occasionally drink orange juice or water, I wonder if the novelty of a popcicle may interest him. my next task will be to convince him to eat something.

post #7 of 12
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Sweetsilver...what kind of popcicles would you give? He has been good nursing and will occasionally drink orange juice or water, I wonder if the novelty of a popcicle may interest him. my next task will be to convince him to eat something.


I'm not SweetSilver, but I would freeze some juice in popsicle molds, and give him that. Or, if I didn't have molds or juice I would go to the grocery store and just buy whatever kind struck my fancy (maybe ones that have different shapes, different colors, just whatever).

 

Also, if you do need to give pedialyte, the ONLY way I've been able to get my ds to drink it is when I mix it 60% pedialyte, 40% apple juice. This tastes WAY better than the flavored pedialyte (although my ds is no longer nursing, and hasn't in over a year - at 20mo, I would have just laid in bed and nursed).

 

Also, if SS hadn't responded to you the way she did, I probably would have (I remember when an MDC mom posted about a child having very serious symptoms and she didn't want to take him to the ER - turned out his appendix had ruptured and he needed emergency surgery and a hospital stay - sometimes its hard to tell here on MDC when a mom is looking for an alternative treatment to something that really should be under the treatment of a physician who is trained in dealing with serious symptoms and who would know when to hospitalize a child).

 

Glad all is well, and hoping your babe has a speedy recovery.

 

post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by prone_to_wander View Post

 

Sweetsilver...what kind of popcicles would you give? He has been good nursing and will occasionally drink orange juice or water, I wonder if the novelty of a popcicle may interest him. my next task will be to convince him to eat something.


 

You'll probably like S-S-M's popsicle advice better because I just buy the Dreyer's fruit pops, HFCS and all.  Oh, but popsicles make things right!  And I let them have as many as they want.  By 4 popsicles, you can see a real difference in their mood.  If they want to eat them all day when they are this sick, that is OK with me!

 

Probably if he is still throwing up, you want to stick with the clearest popsicle you can, like that from super-clear apple juice.  Just about everywhere has an organic brand, if that is important.  Dreyer's has fruit chunks, not good if you are having trouble keeping food down.

post #9 of 12
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You'll probably like S-S-M's popsicle advice better because I just buy the Dreyer's fruit pops, HFCS and all. 



LOL - I have been known to give the neon colored ones that come in star shapes. Those are probably 95% HFCS.

post #10 of 12
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LOL - I have been known to give the neon colored ones that come in star shapes. Those are probably 95% HFCS.


I remembered that Dreyer's doesn't have HFCS.  Yes, especially when they get that sick I would give them just about anything to turn them around.  I think my girls would love the neon ones!

 

post #11 of 12
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I gave him a del monte fruit popsicle and then found out Nestle (of course) owns del monte. Ug. Another brand to cross off my list. He has finally started to nibble on things and he is being more mischievous, which I take as a good sign.

post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by prone_to_wander View Post

I gave him a del monte fruit popsicle and then found out Nestle (of course) owns del monte. Ug. Another brand to cross off my list. He has finally started to nibble on things and he is being more mischievous, which I take as a good sign.

You learn as you go.  I mean, how many occasions do we actively seek this kind of stuff?  Next time you'll know!
 

 

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