~~Infertility ONE Thread March 2012~~ - Page 3

[brichole1214]

Hi ladies!!! I feel so lost!! I really need to go back to the end of last month's thread to catch up!! AF showed up RIGHT ON TIME this month, so no BFP for my birthday gift...but like i said i wasn't doing anything to really make it happen and Emma ended up having an ear infection around my O time anyways so I wasn't really feeling confident that we would conceive last month anyways.  I am going to go ahead and TTC this month even though it would put me at being due around both of my DD's birthdays.  I figure my body likes to get pregnant in March anyways lol.  I really hope that  this is it because my time is counting down and DH is totally sticking to the no help from the RE again.  Which really suck!!! Oh well, i guess if we are supposed to have another baby then we will, if not i'm going to live vicariously through all of you!!! 

I hope that everyone had a great february with or without BFPs and I pray that more of us can get BFPs by the end of march!!!

PS. I had a GREAT birthday weekend in Tunica last weekend!! We came back home with $400 more than we left with so we are going to invest all of the money we took plus that $400 into a new bed....maybe that's another thing that might help...if not at least we will be more comfortable while we are TTC HEHE!!! Plus we will have more room because we are getting a california king size bed and giving our oldest DD our queen size bed...she's really looking forward to that lol. 

MISS AND LOVE YOU LADIES!!! Been thinking about all of you!

[sj7235]

Hi cbaa2010,

Thanks for the quick reply. And yes, I believe the journey has just started for us after natural ways failed. Thanks a lot for the encouragement and that FSH did not pose any problems for you. Our doc, as everybody else's, gave us options with pros and cons in each, and left the ball in our court. But now we are thinking to go for IVF/PGD, instead of FSH/IUI. Thought of an unbalanced child, that we need to remove after '12 weeks + amniocintesis' is just horrible. Our doc is at UCSF, San Francisco. Not sure if we aremaking the right choice for the center.

[shesaidboom]

monkey - thanks, I'm so excited about the venue. It really is a cool place and a lot is included in the price so it makes it much easier for us. It must be so exciting to be able to go through your album! I'm going to have a hard time waiting to see all our pictures. I am lucky to have my fiance. He's been so great through this IF stuff, although it has been so hard for him too. From what our RE said, he figured we would get pregnant within the first two cycles and when we didn't, it was devastating for him.
I'm glad your appointent went well. I'm excited to hear about whether your babe is a girl or boy!

chica - it's so hard to wait! I'm sending prayers for a BFP.

cbaa - I definitely understand that feeling you're having with your RE. It is such a hard place to be.
Let's hope that St. Paddy brings you some luck and a BFP!

Sourire - I'm sorry you're still TTC a year later, but hopefully this will be the last month!
As for the injectibles experiences, I think this super low dose thing is what is doing it. I know our REs are trying to be conservative to avoid issues like OHSS and having to cancel a cycle, but it is so frustrating.
I'm sorry the ski trip wasn't as good as it could have been. I would have been so scared in conditions like that, but I'm not a skiier at all. Progesterone definitely makes my anxiety worse too. I'm glad your dad's friend was okay! How scary.

sj - welcome! I did have side effects with FSH injections, unlike cbaa. I had headaches, dizziness, abdominal pain, nausea, mood swings, and strange dreams. I was on a very low dose though (50 units) so it is possible that some of those side effects were coincidences. They have all gone away since I stopped my injections on Friday night though. I also had a lot of bruising from the needles, but my dp did them for me and he may have not been the best at them. Like cbaa, I did not have any better numbers or follicles than on femara (I haven't taken clomid). Again, that was probably because of the very low dose I was on.

brichole - it's great to hear from you! Let's hope you get another March BFP! Do you think DH will change his mind if things take longer than expected? I hope he does if you need it. I'm glad you had a great birthday weekend. Sending good thoughts to you!

[Smilesarefree]

Gozal – Two perfect heartbeats – that’s awesome, I’ll be stalking you on the grads thread!

Sila – That is tough.  Thinking about you.

Theresa – Yes these anniversaries suck and you will be a super awesome mommy!!  How did your healing go?

Mexilady – Yeah for trying something to get that percent up from 2%!

Shesaidboom – I hope you are pregnant on your wedding day.  I think that being positive helps too but it is hard sometimes to keep hoping every month.

Chica – Fingers crossed for you!!!  Only one more day to hold out!

Sourire – Sorry the ski trip wasn’t the best.  Very scary about your dad’s friend glad he was okay.

AFM,  AF decided to surprise me yesterday and I was totally surprised.  All of those days of +opks were meaningless I guess.  I think that maybe it is time to revist the idea of temping.

[SilaMarila]

My cycle is over. Cancelled. Failed. CD19 and my biggest follicles are only 12 and 11mm. Barely half the size they need to be and still far from big enough to trigger. I didn't respond to the Clomid. There is no point in continuing this cycle. It's too late. My eggs obviously are not maturing properly. They gave me 10 days of Provera since I had such a delayed response with 7 days the first time. Their plan is to start me on 100mg of Clomid next cycle. I'm disappointed we are finally doing something about this and it didn't work. I also have to tell DH we spent $492 (that doesn't include the $250 for the consultation and $120 for the SA) on this cycle not even to get an egg out of it.

I have a busy day but I'll try to come back later today or tomorrow to do replies and personals.

[toothfairy2be]

DH Count today was 4.9 mil at 33% motility after wash... Seriously, how is something always going wrong...

[KyGirl]

Hi

I have never posted anything on these forums, but i have been reading them for months now.

My name is Diane and my husband and i are going thru an IVF cycle right now. I just got home from my 3rd and finale morning ultrasound and blood draw. I haven't heard from the office yet, but the doctor said Thursday would be the day that i go in for my retrival. I'm not sure what to expect next. I have been reading that some go back in after 3 days and some after 5 days. The retrival then the transfer, how long do you have to wait before a pregnancy text? This is sooo nerve wracking... i think i took for granted that getting pregnant was easy, now i'm just hoping and praying that everything we have been thru works. Well anyway, good luck to all of you out there trying to concieve.

[Sourire]

sj7235 - welcome to our group! I have never heard of a chromosome translocation, what is that? I personally don't have any experience with FSH injections or with PGD so I can't provide much advice.

brichole - sounds like you had a spectacular birthday weekend, those winnings are wonderful! I'm hoping for another March BFP for you! How come your DH is so against going back to an RE?

smiles - wow your cycle really went bananas this month! I can't believe AF showed already... I'm hoping for a more normal cycle for you this month.

sila - wow how disappointing. Hopefully a higher dose has better results. And you better not have to wait 17 days for AF this time!

cbaa - were his numbers better before the sperm wash? sometimes I wonder if these people doing the sperm washes really know what they're doing, cause I had really low numbers too last month. It just sucks when they screw things up for us like that! Especially when you paid so much for meds.

KyGirl - welcome to this group! Good luck with your IVF cycle. I have never done IVF myself so I don't know much about anything. However I know that there are a ton of ladies on this thread that are going through IVF: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1336236/winter-ivf-thread-bring-on-the-bfps, I'm sure they could provide you with some helpful info!

Wow... what a depressing news day overall... I've also been stalking the Graduates thread and there was some really sad news on there too  I'm hoping this wave of bad luck ends soon for us all.

[SilaMarila]

Ugh cbaa so sorry. I don't know about you but it's like being kicked when you're down...

[hope4light]

So I had tried to post earlier before running out to a meeting, and apparently it didn't take.  I only have a few, so I'm just catching up on today's stuff.  I read everything from the weekend, I promise - lots of big hugs to everyone!!
 

Originally Posted by KyGirl 

Hi

I have never posted anything on these forums, but i have been reading them for months now.

My name is Diane and my husband and i are going thru an IVF cycle right now. I just got home from my 3rd and finale morning ultrasound and blood draw. I haven't heard from the office yet, but the doctor said Thursday would be the day that i go in for my retrival. I'm not sure what to expect next. I have been reading that some go back in after 3 days and some after 5 days. The retrival then the transfer, how long do you have to wait before a pregnancy text? This is sooo nerve wracking... i think i took for granted that getting pregnant was easy, now i'm just hoping and praying that everything we have been thru works. Well anyway, good luck to all of you out there trying to concieve.

Ky - Welcome.  Good luck on everything!!  ET will just depend on your doc and how your embryo's are going.  Typically you're looking at about 2 weeks before testing.  BIg hugs - join us over at the IVF thread!!! 

Originally Posted by SilaMarila 

My cycle is over. Cancelled. Failed. CD19 and my biggest follicles are only 12 and 11mm. Barely half the size they need to be and still far from big enough to trigger. I didn't respond to the Clomid. There is no point in continuing this cycle. It's too late. My eggs obviously are not maturing properly. They gave me 10 days of Provera since I had such a delayed response with 7 days the first time. Their plan is to start me on 100mg of Clomid next cycle. I'm disappointed we are finally doing something about this and it didn't work. I also have to tell DH we spent $492 (that doesn't include the $250 for the consultation and $120 for the SA) on this cycle not even to get an egg out of it.

Sila - I'm so sorry!!!  At least you know now, it wasn't a complete bust.  Remember if you're dosed up too high it could have to be cancelled for that too!  Or you could end up with higher order multiples!!  This road sucks.  Every step is a learning process but no less painful. 
 

Originally Posted by cbaa2010 

DH Count today was 4.9 mil at 33% motility after wash... Seriously, how is something always going wrong...

Hugs!  Here's to hoping it doesn't matter!!!

[wissa19]

Wow, ladies this seems to be a really tough time for lots of you on this thread.  So many cycles not working!!  I'm so sorry to all of you (sila, cbaa, shesaidboom, smiles) I know I've left someone out!

When times got down for me I would remind myself that I still had my uterus and my ovaries!  So, it was possible even if it hadn't happen yet.  So even though it's not much comfort...Ladies you still have your uterus and ovaries!!!  Can't wait until the good luck returns to this thread.

AFM - ultrasound when well.

[Gemmine]

hope4light: HSG tomorrow wheeeeeee! When do you ovulate?

shesaidboom: It hasn't been confirmed (blood-clotting issues) it's just more of a gut feeling after a year of research and blood issues and immune issues. That would also explain the loss I had and why I didn't get pregnant until I did the baby aspirin. I have a feeling we were fertilizing but just not implanting. And damn those are some good swimmer numbers from your DH! You'll make a good stalkee this 2ww!

wissa: Ah, so I have a baby aspirin comrade?? :-)

cbaa: I am still hopeful for you. I hope parting with your RE brings you some new answers. I hate that something is always going wrong. I hope this cycle is it, but if not, I think the lap will be a good thing in the end for you.

Smiles: I know what you mean about putting those feelings "away" and being "fine" until you actually go into that room. (((hugs))) Keeping you in my thoughts.

chica: How are you feeling today??

Sourire: It rained on my wedding day (Dec. 2006) and though I'm so hoping this bean sticks we haven't exactly been.....fertile LOL. I just thought it meant "good luck" for your marriage. I feel like I tried everything under the sun and shunned aspirin like, no way that would work. So I used it as a last resort in my supplements (along with the Mucinex). I also was stressed that maybe me being vegan had something to do with it, but after a lot of research and realizing I was getting all of my necessary nutrients, I knew that wasn't it. Yikes, your ski trip sounded traumatizing! I've always wanted to go skiing though. 0 visibility, yikes! I'm sorry about your dad inducing that panic attack and his friend's concussion. I've read about some deaths after people hitting their heads after skiing too. A high school counselor of mine lost her daughter from a ski accident.

gozal: So good to hear from you! Sounds like your twins are busy in there!

Sila: I am so sad you have passed this "milestone", friend. (((hugs))) Also, I am so sorry to hear about the cancelled cycle. I'm actually mad they started you off at 50 even though I have no right to be mad. I've heard of RE's starting off more aggressively in women with trouble ovulating so I just hoped they would do that with you. Ugh. I hope 100 does the trick for you.

teresa: Haven't heard "in like Flynn" but I do say "in there like swimwear" :-) It sounds like you have a good RE! He sounds very nice and thoughtful about your cycles, customizing it to you like it should be.

mexilady: I love planning REs! That is interesting about the HCG for the LP; I hadn't heard of that either!

brichole: Sorry about AF but glad to hear you had a good birthday and are in good spirits!

AFM: Beta today was good. 2,947 and they wanted around 2,600. Please move me to graduates. Thank you all so much for your support and I will continue supporting you.

[monkeyscience]

Gem - So glad for some good news from you!! We need some around here!

to you ladies - it has started out to be a pretty rough month here. It's got to look up from this point, right?!?

[Sourire]

Gemmine - WOOHOO! I love moving people to graduates. THANK YOU for bringing some good news to this place, I've been thinking about you today and I was super worried that you would be another casualty of the bad luck streak we've been having around here.

[SilaMarila]

Yay Gem! Thanks for bringing some joy around here today!  I'll miss you friend!

[chicajones]

Gemmine, so glad to hear all is well! Was thinking of you today and am glad you can bring some sunshine to this thread.

About to head to a birthday party, but just wanted to pipe in and say that today has been über sucky. My temp also dropped this morning and now I'm pretty certain tomorrow will be down as well and AF will arrive on Wed. If my temp is down tomorrow I'm not even going to test. I broke down and cried for half of my drive home...another month seems like too much to take, and if I hadn't lost that first chemical pregnancy I would be four months by now. I try not to think/dwell on it too much, but today it really hurts. Plus, I just straight up feel miserable, which doesn't help because it's very PMS.

Hopefully some birthday cake will help...
Edited by chicajones - 3/5/12 at 6:18pm

[toothfairy2be]

Gemmine I am so so so happy to hear good news from you today! What a relief! I hope we are all following in your footsteps soon.

Chica- Ohh I hate PMS... I hope you are surprised tomorrow... How was the birthday cake??

Sila- Oh come on with the cancelled cycle... I am annoyed too that they only started you at 50... I hope after the provera your next cycle is much better. When do you meet the new RE, I hope they are better planners. Oh I feel so sad for you... Is it possible they would consider an estrogen patch? My Acupuncturist was just talking about women with poor response having an estrogen patch. Also, check into iodine deficiency, I think I posted it before, but even if your thyroid is working properly, your ovaries may not get enough iodine b/c the thyroid gets to it first. I hope you have brighter days coming... I hate all the bad news here this week...

Welcome KyGirl- I don't know much avout IVF but I wish you great luck & there are definitely some around who can give you advice!

smiles- what the heck is going on with you?? Actually, last June I had a cycle that I had four days of +++ OPKs, no temp shift, and AF started like 3 days later, so maybe just an annovulatory cycle. I hope next cycle is much better and we all have a better March!

sourire- unfortunately before wash it was only like 29mil, last month there were like 21 or 22 million after wash, so yea, just... not good. How are you doing, are you feeling better with the Crinone yet?

AFM- Starting to feel a little better... I mean, there is nothing we can do now so might as well just get through the next 12 days and I have 1 more full day before prometrium so I might as well enjoy it! I bought myself a cadbury creme egg today. I am eating it on St. Patrick's day, BFP means I can be more lenient on my diet, BFN means I will be having surgery and what does the endo matter at that point anyway so sugar, dairy and wheat me up!!! I would love a St. Paddy's day BFP... I started taking aspirin like 5 days ago and today I got an Rx for Piroxicam, I'm pretty excited. Now, to BD tonight and seal the deal! But first, 'The Voice'!!

[teresaresa]

cbaa2010: I guess DH doesn’t spend a lot of time looking at (or touching!) my legs, so he doesn’t really care. My leg hair is super, super soft – I guess because I’ve never shaved with that much regularity (and plus it’s kinda long!). Paleo sounds interesting, but I don’t think I could swing it. The shaman has me doing no meat and no caffeine. The meat thing is killing me, and the caffeine thing hurts – not because of coffee but because of chocolate! I’m a total planner/worrier, but I guess I just really trust my RE. I’ve hardly been googling at all since I started seeing him J I’m sorry your follies didn’t grow the way we had hoped. Dagnabit – just read your IUI update. What the heck is going on this month??? It really does seem like one thing after another. Maybe this is God’s way of telling you that you’re right to be moving on to the NaPro?  It’s an expensive message J

mexilady: I totally feel you on the rollercoaster of hope. It’s funny though, this last cycle was the first one where I didn’t feel that upset about it not working. There was a point before my beta when I knew I wasn’t pregnant and from that point on I was just annoyed that AF was taking so long to get here. I didn’t have my usual sadness. I think that’s progress, right? It’s so frustrating not feeling like we’re in control of our emotions. Sigh. I’m glad your RE appointment went well. It can be so overwhelming once you start in with a new phase of the journey. I’m glad to hear he’s going to start you with Femara. Seems like most of the other gals’ REs have started with Clomid (waste of a cycle if you ask me!). What kind of diagnostics does your RE want to do?

shesaidboom: I’m sorry you’ve lost faith in your RE. That must be a totally terrible feeling. I totally get them wanting to be cautious, but yeah, it’s a *bleep* load of money and it’s just plain not fair. Your clinic just sounds all around overloaded. I felt that way when I was first exploring an RE. I went to Columbia University’s clinic and they just have so many patients – it’s crazy. I wish I had known then what I know now (which is that no one I’ve met has liked Columbia). I think I kind of knew they were whack though which is why I never felt comfortable going on meds/IUIs there. Glad I left and found my current RE! Any chance you could switch clinics? (Sorry if we’ve discussed before – I get a little confused sometimes). Thanks for being supportive of my long tales J Brevity is not my strongest suit!! I’m excited for your two week wait. I’m guessing that the chance to DTD in addition to the IUI will make the difference. Glad to hear this IUI was less painful than the one last month. They’re just so much fun, right? Anyway, I think it’s OK to feel down just as long as you don’t stay there. Have you had a good cry yet?

chicajones: I’m sorry friend. I can feel your pain through your words, and it just totally sucks. I’m mentally hugging your right now. Hope you can feel it.

Sourire: I’m glad you got in some fun skiing time. I would have been totally freaked out by the rough conditions and your dad’s friend. And I, too, totally would have lost it if I had shown up for breakfast and the rest of the clan was out skiing already. Seriously, I probably would have thrown myself to the ground kicking and screaming/crying. Difference is, yours was a panic attack – for me, it would have just been me J I’m just kidding, of course. Well… kinda.

Sourire/Smilesarefree: Shamanic healing was intense. There was a lot there, but I’ll try to summarize for you as best I can. He did a reading of a candle, and from that there were three main themes: I need to quiet down (too much activity in my brain); I need to have more faith (trust my instincts more and not be so reliant on information); I need to release my creativity (expressing my inner self in an outward way will spark the energy of creation). Then he performed the healing ceremony. There was rum (blown on my face and feet), drums, bells, horns, and needles. The needles were not like acupuncture (they hurt like crazy), but they are supposed to have a similar effect of sending energy to different places in your body. He worked on my feet and different areas of the feet are associated with different body parts. Guess which part of my feet was most sensitive? Yup! The area associated with the reproductive organs. During the healing (not the needle part), I had an image of a science beaker (the glass kind) connected to my belly and the spirit of my baby was being sucked into my belly. Interesting, right? I’m trying not to take it too literally, but I think it’s kind of cool. I’m actually going to go back to see him next week. He said there’s more work we could do, but that I didn’t have to come back. I think it’s worth it – for now, at least. Last night, I actually felt really calm and centered doing my yoga. Normally, my mind wanders like crazy, but I stayed pretty focused on the poses and the breathing. Today, I feel totally exhausted and kind of annoyed/angry. I’ve emailed with Itzhak, and he said it’s totally normal and expected. It should pass in a few days. For the next two weeks, no meat, no caffeine, and no spicy food – blurg.  Let me know if you want to know more!

sj7235: I’m sorry you’re on this journey too. I hope we can offer you support during this crazy hard time.

Brichole: So glad you had a great birthday weekend away. A new mattress is always great for one’s sex life! Sounds like you’ve got the March mojo. I’m going to keep my fingers crossed for you!

Smilesarefree: I strongly dislike your AF and your positive OPKs. I really want to give them both the what for. Do you think your doc will have any answers on the randomly long “surge”? Are you at least excited for a new cycle? Any ideas on what you’ll do this month?

SilaMarila: Ugh. I am so very, very sorry. I’m surprised they’re going to try you on another round of Clomid, but at least they’re upping the dosage. It really stinks when our bodies don’t cooperate, but I hope you the “failed” feeling doesn’t last too long. You’ll bounce back and have a much better cycle this time around. Hoping the Provera works the way it’s supposed to this time! Ugh. Totally sucky. Sorry.

KyGirl (Diane): Welcome! I know nothing about IVF, but I just wanted you to know that I’m rooting for you and will send extra positive wishes your way on Thursday for your retrieval!

Gemmine: YAYAY!! So glad your beta went well. We’ll miss you, but wish you lots of goodness over in the grads thread!

AFM: I’m exhausted. Shamanic healing was intense and I’m definitely feeling the aftershocks of it. Work was crappy today, and I’m going to bed with a headache. Trying to be positive, but I think there’s just something in the air. Blech. Raising my glass (of tea) to a more joy-filled day tomorrow!!!!

[mexilady]

Not much time for personals tonight, but wanted to say GEM I am so incredibly happy for you! Such good news! Thank you all for being so wonderful and welcoming. Will update soon!

[shesaidboom]

smilesarefree - Thank you, I hope so too.
How weird that the +opks were saying one thing and AF just showed up. Hopefully your next cycle will be less confusing!

SilaMarila - I'm so sorry. This IF thing is so frustrating and upsetting and it's just not fair. I hope the higher dose makes a difference and the next cycle will not be disappointing. I think what you said to cbaa said it best - it's like being kicked when you're down. It really is.

cbaa - what an awful day we are having here on these boards. It's just not fair to go through all of this to end up with disappointment. Let's hope those 33% did their thing well.

KyGirl - I don't have any experience with IVF so I can't offer any advice, but I'm hoping that this cycle works for you. I can relate to what you said about taking getting pregnant with ease for granted. I never imagined how hard it could really be. Good luck to you!

Sourire - I agree, let's hope this wave of awful luck ends soon. I think we need the BFP trend back right about now.

wissa - I'm glad your ultrasound went well! It's always good to hear good news from our grads. Let's hope the good luck comes back with a vengence.

Gemmine - Thanks for sharing. I hope I wasn't being too intrusive by asking, I just worry that our issue is along the same lines - fertilizing but not implanting. Dp tends to have great numbers every cycle. It's a running joke at the clinic that he has 'superman sperm'. Unfortunately my body just isn't taking advantage of his excellent numbers!
Congrats on being moved to graduates! I'm so glad your beta brought good news. We need some of that around here!

monkey - I hope that up is the only way this thread goes. We need some more good news!

chica - I'm sorry today has been bad. Sending lots of hugs and good thoughts to you. Let's hope it isn't over yet.

teresaresa - Our clinic definitely is overloaded, you're right, and they dropped some staff so it makes things even worse. One ultrasound tech for 30-ish women is just crazy. We're thinking of switching clinics, but our other options are much further away and the reviews are not nearly as good. We may stick it out for a while and see what happens. It's hard to know what the right thing to do here is. I definitely have had a good cry. My mood is actually feeling a lot lighter since stopping the Puregon, so I think that had a lot to do with the depression I was feeling. I'm still not 100%, but it felt like a huge weight was lifted. Mood swing side effects are the worst.
I'm sorry you're not feeling great either. Today is definitely a rough day around these parts. Here's to a better one tomorrow.

AFM, not much going on over here. Just waiting. And waiting. I did a ton of housework today. We always have a very clean house during the 2ww because I tend to go into this weird nesting mode. I'm hoping to finish up a couple of wedding projects while I'm here. I hope everyone's tomorrow is much better than their today. Thinking of you all.