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post #101 of 517

Somebody help me!

 

Im about to give up on cloth diapering.  My inserts smell really bad and I have no idea why.  I wash them every 2 days- I have tried different detergents, air drying, washing/drying on all different temps.  I used oxy-clean on them a few days ago and they were fine, but I washed them like I normally do today (on warm, in dye free/scent free/everything free detergent) and they smell AGAIN.

 

 

post #102 of 517
Thread Starter 

Ash, you need to be washing in HOT, not warm.  That could be part of the problem.  Are you running a rinse/spin before the wash cycle?  If not, this definitely could be the problem.  Lastly, I would suggest stripping them with some Dawn dish soap and possibly some bleach or tea tree oil.

post #103 of 517

I pretty much gave up on synthetic inserts. The microfiber inserts that come with most brands like fuzzibunz work for me like 1 time then I give up on them. Stinky, repelling, minimal absorbency. I can handle fleece and suede cloth as the next-to-skin layer in pockets, but for inserts and soakers, give me cotton, hemp, or bamboo! I use prefolds as inserts more than anything, and save my hemp for bedtime. Would love to get some more hemp..

post #104 of 517

Yeah, these are microfiber.

 

I was only washing them on warm so I could wash the covers and inserts together.  I will try washing them on hot and treating them with TTO again (tried already once).  Also the pre wash rinse is a good idea.

 

Thanks!

post #105 of 517

Jaimee - How much Dawn do you recommend using to strip diapers? I'm afraid to put Dawn in the washing machine for fear of suds overflowing out of it, as you can imagine. lol. Also, do you only use Dawn with the cloth parts of the diapers (and prefolds) or with the PUL covers too? Probably a stupid question, but I figured I'd ask anyway. I bought some blue Dawn unconcentrated today for this purpose but haven't looked into how much to use yet...

post #106 of 517

I don't know what the "official" rules are with washing pul covers but i'm naughty and lazy and treat my pul and prefolds as equals. I wash it on hot, and I dry it on hot. I've had 3 really cheap pocket diapers delaminate. And by really cheap, I'm talking $3 brand new "cheap" and they lasted for quite a while before this happened! And then I still used them until the laminate actually tore. I don't see that as a huge loss. And 1 homemade pocket delaminated and the company I bought the pul from sent me a check for more than I paid for the PUL to begin with (and I told them what I paid!) so I profitted off that :P

post #107 of 517

I always wash all of my diapers (PUL covers included) in a hot cycle together too (after I've done the cold wash/rinse). I don't dry the PUL covers in the dryer, though. I hang dry them. Makes me too nervous in the dryer.

post #108 of 517
Thread Starter 

This is a good basic wash routine:

 

Cold rinse/spin

Hot wash with 1-2 TBS of safe detergent

Extra cold/rinse spin if necessary

Dry

 

I wash everything together and I dry everything together during the winter.  During the rest of the year I hang dry outside.  My PUL is just now delaminating- part way through my third kid.  It only matters when he heavily wets (like at night), otherwise he's going in the potty most of the time and misses are generally small amounts.

 

Here are the instructions I give people when they are dealing with repelling or diaper funk....

 

How to fix Diaper Funk, Random Leaking, and Persistent Diaper Rash

 

1. Strip you diapers (see below)
2. Sun your diapers (see below)
3. Experiment with detergents until you find one that consistently works

Check out http://www.pinstripesandpolkadots.com for detergent reviews
4. If you have an HE washer, experiment with your wash routine to ensure all suds rinse out after each wash. This may require many more rinses than you have been doing previously, washing fewer diapers at one time, and washing on the heavy cycle.
5. Don't use diaper rash creams that contain petroleum, petrolatum or fish oil.

There are many brands available that do not contain these products. Even when using "safe" cream, line your diapers well.

6. Periodically wash your diapers with Dawn (about 2 tsp), thoroughly rinse

7.  Experiment with vinegar in your post-wash rinse cycle (this will help the detergent rinse out, but in my experience has made ammonia smell worse)

8.  If you suspect you have hard water, which is leading to build up, experiment with Calgon.


To strip your diapers you can do any or all of the following until they smell clean and rinse clear:
 

  • Turn up your hot water heater and rinse, rinse, rinse until all the suds are gone (run hot washes without detergent)- you may need to do this many more times than you expect. I had one customer that needed 9 wash cycles to get all her suds out.
  • Wash in Dawn dish soap (about 2 tsp) and rinse, rinse, rinse until you no longer see suds in the agitation cycle
  • Wash with an oxygen bleach (like BioKleen) and rinse, rinse, rinse
  • If you are not able to get all the suds out, put your clean diapers in the top rack of your dishwasher (cover the jet dry with saran wrap) and run the cycle. Open to check for suds.
  • If you've already used questionable cream products (especially if you're experiencing diaper rash and/or leaking), scrub your diapers with Dawn and a grout brush then rinse, rinse, rinse
  • If you've done everything and your diapers still have an odor follow these instructions: hot wash with 1 Tbs Dawn dish soap, hot wash with 1 Tbs Dawn dish soap and ¼ C bleach, and finally a hot wash with nothing. If you call Cottonbabies, this is what they will recommend.
     

Sun your diapers do all of the following to rid them of stains, bacteria, and fungus:
 

  • Place your clean diapers out to dry in the sun for about 2 hours
  • Sprinkle lemon juice on the particularly tough stains
  • Turn any prefolds, wipes, doublers, and inserts after about an hour
  • Rewash
     

 

I know this looks like an all day affair, and truthfully, it is. However, it's really worth it to get those diapers clean and to keep the problem from returning. Please let me know if you have questions about this process.

Good luck!

 

post #109 of 517

I use the wash cycle Jaimee recommended above.  cold/rinse, hot/rinse, extra rinse.  

I will come back later and update on my doc appt- too much to type now and baby is fussing!  Ciao for now.

post #110 of 517

I use pockets, and they specifically say NOT to wash them on hot, to only use cold.  SO are you guys saying you wash yours on hot and they are fine?  Because that would make life so much easier...

post #111 of 517

yes definitely hot.  I use bumgenius pocket diapers.  Been washing them on hot for 3 years and they are in great condition. 

Okay so the doc is baffled.  It could be gallbladder, but it's mostly on my left side.  Could be kidney, because the pain is radiating to my back (or from my back?)  Could be gastritis.  He sent a urine sample in to be tested for infection.  I am getting blood drawn in the morning, and if I don't feel at least 80% better I am to go get an ultrasound on my abdomen.  I can't eat or drink (except water) before the blood draw, and can have nothing by mouth (not even water) 8hrs before an ultrasound, but I'm waiting until the morning to schedule that in case I feel better miraculously, and it wouldn't be until after noon because DH has a big interview and won't be home with the car until then.  So basically I have to stop drinking water around 4am, and I had a huge dinner and now can't eat until tomorrow afternoon.  Ugh.  It hasn't let up at all yet so I am really curious as to what is going on.  

 

post #112 of 517
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Okay so the doc is baffled.  It could be gallbladder, but it's mostly on my left side.  Could be kidney, because the pain is radiating to my back (or from my back?)  Could be gastritis.  He sent a urine sample in to be tested for infection.  I am getting blood drawn in the morning, and if I don't feel at least 80% better I am to go get an ultrasound on my abdomen.  I can't eat or drink (except water) before the blood draw, and can have nothing by mouth (not even water) 8hrs before an ultrasound, but I'm waiting until the morning to schedule that in case I feel better miraculously, and it wouldn't be until after noon because DH has a big interview and won't be home with the car until then.  So basically I have to stop drinking water around 4am, and I had a huge dinner and now can't eat until tomorrow afternoon.  Ugh.  It hasn't let up at all yet so I am really curious as to what is going on.  

 

Are you BFing? Becauseee... I don't know about you but that would TANK my supply. I can't EVER skip a meal or NOT drink water. Stupid boobs.
 

 

post #113 of 517
Thread Starter 

Ash, yep, hot for everything.  Obviously, washing them on warm or cold would prolong their life, but they do not get as clean and are therefore prone to funk and infection.

 

J, I'm so sorry you're going through all this!  That has got to be miserable and so frustrating!  I hope you get some answers very soon!

post #114 of 517

Interesting, thanks Jaimee.  I got a few Nature's Love pocket diapers that leak from a friend and I was wondering if its because they are worn or because she washed them in hot.  Ive had the most success with the $3 diapers I bought eyesroll.gif  of course.  So I guess washing them in hot would be fine.

post #115 of 517

Nicole- yup definitely exclusively bf-ing.  I'm not worried about supply- it was just an overnight fast and now I might get to eat soon because they u/s couldn't be scheduled today.  Earliest is Saturday morning (UGH).  I am waiting to speak with my doc about whether that is okay with him to wait or if he has any other ideas :-)   It's only 8:30am here so I might be able to have breakfast at a normal time! :-)  That would be nice.  Pain is definitely still there this morning.  SO annoying!  

 

 

post #116 of 517

Oh hey- happy anniversary Nicole!  love.gif

post #117 of 517

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post #118 of 517
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Good luck!!

 

post #119 of 517

Shay has a new trick!

 

post #120 of 517

Awww Sara that is SO CUTE!! Look at Shay go!!

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