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post #161 of 517

Welcome Flor!

post #162 of 517

Welcome back!
 

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Can I jump in? Haven't been on here since pregnancy, but just figured out home to do this on my phone!
My 11-11-11 baby girl was actually born 10-27-11.


 

post #163 of 517

Quick update on my tummy- 

lab results and u/s showed no obvious reason for pains.  I am deficient in Vit D and potassium (weird!) though, so I am getting tested again next week to recheck the potassium because that would be cause for concern.  I am going to up my vit D (I already take a few thousand IUs a day) and see what happens.  It's weird that my potassium is so low because I eat almost entirely fruits and veggies (I'm vegan), especially those high in potassium (kiwi, banana, potatoes/sweet potatoes, soy milk, avocado, etc etc.)  So, yeah.  Very strange.  
 

The pain is going away, thankfully.  DH thought I might be prego.  Needless to say, I WOULD HAVE FREAKED OUT.  There's no way that I am, so no worries there.  

So how is NIP going for everyone else? Dylan is so not interested in the boob.  He just wants to rubberneck around and look at the world.  Agh!

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Edited by LunaLady - 6/29/12 at 4:08pm
post #165 of 517

I think that's normal, Christina.  My older son has only gained 10 pounds in 2 years and 8 months.  Yes, he is turning 3 and he has only gained 10 lbs since he was 4 months old.  It's so weird!  

 

And thanks- yeah I'll have to look into the absorption thing.  I don't know much about it either...

post #166 of 517

They say that EBF babies slow down their growth a LOT around the 6-month mark, so Rhyko's right on track! thumb.gif Conner only gained 14oz from month 2 to month 4 but he's gained 13oz in a week. *Shrugs*

 

Also, NIP is the same for me, JBK. It takes him twice as long as it used to because everytime he hears a noise he's rubber neckin'. LOL But he refuses to let me cover his head to keep him focused, sooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Whatever. LOL

post #167 of 517

LOL about NIP.  My dude would rather stay home, so he often wants to nurse while we're out.  He sits in the sling on my hip to nurse, so he can see most everything without unlatching.  He's my third, so I don't even notice the rubbernecking anymore, I expect it and keep the sling pulled up just higher than my nipple in case he unlatches, so no one gets a view or sprayed.  Luckily I don't spray as much anymore.

post #168 of 517

We have the same problems nip. She just won't do it. She'll latch on for a second, not even long enough to get the letdown, and she's off checking out something else then refuses to latch again. But she'll still fuss because she's hungry. I've started preparing a bottle when I know she'll need to eat in public. Even the bottle can be a struggle though. I have to hold her on my lap facing out so she can still see everything. 

post #169 of 517
Thread Starter 

September

LunaLady- Christina: 9/19, baby boy Rhyko

Bubbagirl- Becca: 9/24, baby girl

 

October

Gemini529- : 10/26, baby boy

LexiDrewMama- Jessica: 10/26, baby girl Alexia

Ajbaby- : 10/27, baby girl Emily Paige, 9:04 pm, 3 minutes before midwife got here, 6 lbs 4 oz and 19"

Meb2- Morgan: 10/27, baby boy Ezra Ryan was born at 6:46 PM

Flor- : 10/27, baby girl

Berry987- Lindsey: 10/30, baby girl Stella Beatrix born at 4:16am

TTCChloeorConner- Nicole: 10/31 baby boy Conner Dean, 8lbs2oz. 20'' long. 6:14pm

 

Early November

Seraf- Sara: 11/1, baby boy Shay born in the car, 8lb14oz

Mal85- Mallory: 11/2, baby girl Greta

Juliensiss: 11/2 baby boy Landon Henry, 8am.  7 14 and 20.5 inches long

EonJourney- Nicole: 11/3, identical twin boys Ember Trail 5.7 oz and Roam Freely 5.6 oz

SoCaliMommy- Kami: 11/4 baby boy Harlan Drake,  6:48pm at 10lbs even 21 1/2"

Ablemec- Mishy: 11/7 baby boy

Autumnshades- Sonja: 11/7, baby boy Elijah Matthias, 6:25am, 6 lbs 10 oz, 20 inches long

1Love4Ever- : 11/9, baby boy Roger, 9lb 5oz, 22in

rhombus- April: 11/9, baby boy Ulysses

Lula's Mom- Kristi: 11/10 baby boy, 5:30 this morning

MrsKatie- Katie: 11/10, baby girl Catherine Anne was born at 1:21pm.  7lbs 10oz and 21 inches long. 

 

Mid November

Lula's Mom- Kristi: 11/11, baby boy Leonidas Ronan

Jill the Pill- Jill: 11/11, baby girl Audrey Catharine 6lbs 5oz 19 inches long

miriam_bat_avraham- Julie: 11/11, twin girls

TalkToMeNow- Amanda: 11/12, baby boy Jasper Conley, 12:42 pm,  8 lbs 11 oz.

Paigekitten- Katie: 11/12, baby girl Eowyn Jane, 6:09 pm, 8 lbs 3.9 oz, 21 inches

Caracol8- Michele: 11/12, baby boy Sebastian David, 1:52am, 8lbs 4ozs, 21in

FaithF- Faith: 11/13, baby girl Aria Rain, 3:06 am, 6 lb 7 oz.

KayPea- Kirsten: 11/13, baby boy Oren Edward Adams, 5:45pm, 9lbs 11oz, 21 in long, 15in head!

Chena4- : 11/14 baby girl, born in the car 9:47pm

Augustmom- : 11/14, baby boy Sean Bennett, 9.3oz

mommy2sage- Michelle: 11/15, baby boy Storm Noonday, 8:26pm, 9 pounds 6 ounces, 20.5 inches

LiLStar- Rachel: 11/16, baby boy Evan Curtis, 11 lbs, 15" head

Beccawprice- : 11/16, baby boy Theodore was 8 lb 6 oz, 21 in long

Xakana- : 11/16, baby girl Katarina Xylia, 11:42am, weighing 8lbs, 13oz, 20"

crazykittymomma- Sarah: 11/17, baby girl Anya Kathryn, 5:37am

Krystal323- Krystal: 11/18, baby boy Oliver Davis, UC

IwannaBanRN- Becky: 11/19, baby boy Levi Jaxon, 10:50am, UC

2011mama- MK: 11/19, baby boy, 2:17 a.m. , 9 lbs., 2 oz., 21 in

Keanusmomma- Rachel: 11/ , baby girl Juniper Willow

Mommy55- ML: 11/19, baby boy William Alan

 

Late November

mleh99- Emily: 11/21, baby girl Ella Lorraine, 8lbs 2oz, 18 1/2 inches

Mamabelle- Michelle: 11/22, baby girl Iris Elizabeth, 8lbs, 9oz and 20 inches long at 9:06am

Octanebeetle27- Wendy: 11/23, baby boy Jacob Bruce, 8lbs 8oz

Amanitamama- : 11/23, baby boy Alastair Corvus, 5:12am, unintentionally unassisted

mcacat- Catherine: 11/23, baby girl Margot Anne

meesh933- Michele: 11/24, baby boy Jack Lennox, 3:04 am, 9lb9oz

Code Name Mama- Dionna: 11/24, baby girl Ailia Genevieve, 4:15a.m.

jbk21- J: 11/24, baby boy Dylan Timothy born in the caul

Motivated Mama- Nina: 11/24, baby

dashley111- Ash:  11/24, baby girl Bettie Grey, 7:03pm, 7lbs15oz, 21"

birdhappy85- Joanie:  11/24, baby girl Sora Nina, 3:39pm, 7lb 6oz, 19-1/2 in long

BananaBreadGirl- : 11/24, baby boy Malachi

Jamie211- Jaime: 11/24, baby boy Jacob

Viriditas- Amy: 11/25, baby girl Evelyn, 7:54 PM, 8 lbs 10 oz, 21 1/2 inches

jasmin85- Jasmin: 11/28, baby boy, 8:36pm, 10lb 15oz

KaliShanti- Kali: 11/29, baby boy Enoch Noble Grandison , 8 lbs 7 oz. 21.25 in, 11:45pm

munchymum- : 11/29, baby girl Sylvie, 12:16 pm

 

December

abraisme- Abra: 12/1, baby girl Coralie Katherine, 8lbs1oz, 19.75", 2pm

musicmama08 - Crystal: 12/1, baby girl Clara Evelyn, 9 lbs

Jaimee: 12/3, baby boy Avery River, 6lbs14oz, 21", 4:21pm

Willsmomm- Brittney: 12/4, baby boy Clayton Isaac, 10:14 p.m.

MrsVyky- Vyky: 12/12, baby girl Olive, 5:09pm

post #170 of 517
Thread Starter 

Christina, I'm sure everything is fine.  Babies grow a tremendous amount in those first few months and still quite a bit up to the one  year mark, but "they" say that around  6 months is when genetics kick in more and babies start growing more according to what their body type will be.

 

Welcome back, Flor!

 

 

post #171 of 517

Christina, totally normal.  If you look at a growth chart, the curve gets way less steep after the first few months.  I'm excited for Shay (18 lbs 11 oz) to slow down!

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Christina, totally normal.  If you look at a growth chart, the curve gets way less steep after the first few months.  I'm excited for Shay (18 lbs 11 oz) to slow down!



YES!  D is 17.5 lbs at last check (two days ago) so I can't wait for his growth to slow down, too.  My back hurts and my arms are tired, LOL!

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I'm about done BFing.

 

I'm so tired of feeling like a failure. I wish I had a supportive group around me. Everytime he cries, it's "because he's hungry". When he's hungry after an hour, it's "because I don't produce enough". Whenever he gets fed a bottle of pumped milk it's "super thin, not fat enough". Everytime something's wrong with my kid, it's my boobs' fault. Seriously.

 

Not to mention that it literally takes me 24 hours to pump 2 4oz bottles and my f**king sister, who sticks a bottle in his mouth EVERYTIME HE CRIES, will use that up in 3 hours. She had him from 1230-4 yesterday and fed him 2 4oz bottles and fed him half a jar of green beans. Mind you, he had just eaten at 12. I fed him WHEN I GOT THERE.

 

I'm just so torn. I'm over it. Like, I'm really over it. I want to stop for the sake of my mental health. I'm so tired of feeling insufficient.

 

But at the same time, I don't want to stop. Why waste my time getting up and preparing a bottle when I have perfectly capable boobs to do the job? Why waste my time and money?

 

I was thinking of just providing formula for when he's at the sitter for awhile until I get a HUGE back stock built up, so that I'm not always playing catch up.

 

Cool?

post #174 of 517

Nicole, hang in there. You're doing great and I'm sorry you're not getting the support you need. 

 

There are lots of mother to mother milk sharing programs out there, could you look into getting him donor milk instead of formula?? I'm going to be totally honest and I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but formula is really, really terrible food for babies :(

 

Here's a link to a milk sharing group in your area: https://www.facebook.com/HM4HB.Indiana

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Edited by LunaLady - 6/29/12 at 4:08pm
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I'm about done BFing.

 

I'm so tired of feeling like a failure. I wish I had a supportive group around me. Everytime he cries, it's "because he's hungry". When he's hungry after an hour, it's "because I don't produce enough". Whenever he gets fed a bottle of pumped milk it's "super thin, not fat enough". Everytime something's wrong with my kid, it's my boobs' fault. Seriously.

 

Not to mention that it literally takes me 24 hours to pump 2 4oz bottles and my f**king sister, who sticks a bottle in his mouth EVERYTIME HE CRIES, will use that up in 3 hours. She had him from 1230-4 yesterday and fed him 2 4oz bottles and fed him half a jar of green beans. Mind you, he had just eaten at 12. I fed him WHEN I GOT THERE.

 

I'm just so torn. I'm over it. Like, I'm really over it. I want to stop for the sake of my mental health. I'm so tired of feeling insufficient.

 

But at the same time, I don't want to stop. Why waste my time getting up and preparing a bottle when I have perfectly capable boobs to do the job? Why waste my time and money?

 

I was thinking of just providing formula for when he's at the sitter for awhile until I get a HUGE back stock built up, so that I'm not always playing catch up.

 

Cool?



Obviously any breast milk he gets is going to be more beneficial for him.  It may not be the popular opinion- but I would say that a mother always needs to do whats best for the WHOLE family, including herself.   What do you feel would be best for you, your sanity, and your ability to parent?  Do you feel like if you had more support things would be different and you wouldn't be so overwhelmed? 
There are plenty of emotional aspects to consider outside of just "breast is best".  For some people who have difficulty, breastfeeding/pumping can cause resentment, anxiety, anger- then the emotional connection between you are baby can suffer.  That is obviously NOT best for anybody. 

 

I think this is an awesome group of women who can support you in what you choose no matter what it is.  Are there any particular resources your looking for ?

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Obviously any breast milk he gets is going to be more beneficial for him.  It may not be the popular opinion- but I would say that a mother always needs to do whats best for the WHOLE family, including herself.   What do you feel would be best for you, your sanity, and your ability to parent?  Do you feel like if you had more support things would be different and you wouldn't be so overwhelmed? 
There are plenty of emotional aspects to consider outside of just "breast is best".  For some people who have difficulty, breastfeeding/pumping can cause resentment, anxiety, anger- then the emotional connection between you are baby can suffer.  That is obviously NOT best for anybody. 

 

I think this is an awesome group of women who can support you in what you choose no matter what it is.  Are there any particular resources your looking for ?


yeahthat.gif Great response, Ash.

 

Nicole, I've been thinking for a while that what you really need to do is find a new pediatrician, if possible. Ask around on here and on other natural parenting boards. Use Google. Heck, let me know your city and I can help. Find a doctor who is super supportive of breastfeeding. Then, go in for an appointment and bring your dh. When the doctor tells you guys that Conner is healthy and happy and getting plenty of milk, and when s/he says how much is reasonable for him to drink while you are at work, etc, then you always have, "Well, the doctor said..." to fall back on. Makes things a ton easier. "F*cking sister, the doctor said Conner just needs 4 oz in ___ hours. It's important!" "DH, remember, the doctor said Conner should have rice cereal yet." Etc. 

 

My dh is supportive of breastfeeding, but he doesn't know much about it. His dd was formula fed. At first, he really felt like we could go either way with Jasper. The whole doctor thing helped a lot. Also, meeting with a lactation consultant. When dh heard everything first hand, it was easier for him to get on board. 

 

(Btw, I'm not implying anything is wrong with your doc. I'm just saying, docs have this magical aura to most people, so telling them your doc instructed you will sound like words from god.)

 

post #178 of 517

I agree with everything said so far.  I think your mental health is important, but I also think you're getting bad advice from people.  I think you need better support, and I also think that not only SHOULD you try to avoid formula, that you CAN avoid formula.  Conner is totally fine.  He is getting enough milk.  YOU ARE SUFFICIENT!  I don't think you should avoid formula because it's bad (that is for you to decide) but because once you give it to him, it's a slippery slope.  I do think that if you want to continue breastfeeding then you should commit to breastmilk.  Period.  

As for your sister, why don't you just leave ONE 4 oz bottle?  Only leave what he needs, and 4 oz is more than enough for that time period especially since you can feed him again when you pick him up (and you should, both to keep your supply up and to re-bond with him after being away for a bit.  Babies usually like to nurse when you get home EVEN IF they just ate from a bottle.  It's like they want to know it's still there.)  Give him ideas for what to do if he cries.  OR find a new sitter.  

None of this is about you Nicole.  YOU ARE SUFFICIENT.  It's other people who are the issue!  Bad advice!  Giving too much milk because they can't soothe any other way!  They aren't setting you up to succeed.  

 

Also, don't ask other people for advice unless you KNOW they are going to support you.  Everyone wants to solve your problems but clearly they are not helping.  AND THERE IS NO PROBLEM.  Conner is doing so great!

I don't mean to seem like I'm yelling- just trying to be clear.  You have to know that you are a great mom and you are doing awesome.  He is growing and developing perfectly.  thumb.gif

post #179 of 517

Nicole, I think I could have written the same description of my son's eating habits as your baby, but I feel I'm doing pretty all right, because I have a very supportive breastfeeding crowd in my life.  It makes a huge difference.  As committed as I feel I am to feeding my kid from my body, I'm not sure I could have (for my mental health) stuck without it, if I didn't have such great support.  I too urge you to find some mamas who will appreciate all you've done to make this relationship happen and continue happening.

 

Also, I have supplemented Luca's feeding with donor breast milk and formula in the beginning.  Our breastfeeding relationship took a long time to establish, and the stress of it was tanking my supply.  Agree that formula sucks, but having even less breast milk and a frustrating and painful feeding experience as the regular routine is most likely worse for the long haul.  I for sure support you, no matter how you cope with the situation on hand.  We're all doing the best we can for our babies.

 

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Just think!  Except for one sperm, these babies are entirely made of us!  It's so crazy!

 

carey

 

p.s.  Finally made it through 3 days (and nights) of hourly+ feedings.  My boobs are sore and there's not enough coffee in the world, but we made it!

post #180 of 517

Thanks, ladies. I thought about it all day. I "took the day off". As in, I didn't pump at work and school like I normally do... And it sucked. The second I saw Conner, I let him nurse. I can't do it. Then I pumped and got 5oz! =) That's a LOT for me... Granted it'd been damn near 12 hours though. But still!

 

I guess I should say that DH IS supportive... But he really could care less either way. When I told him I wanted to quit, he said he supports whatever I want to do and he's proud of me for making it this long. It's really just my sister and MIL (Who are my two baby-sitters) that make me feel inadequate, but switching is NOT an option at this time in our lives. They are free... We are trying to save to purchase a home in September, so we can't afford daycare ATM.

 

I told DH the following, "I can't do it. I'm just going to send him with formula for a few weeks until I get a nice back stock built up. That way I won't be as stressed about providing for him when I pump. And I'll nurse him when I'm with him. I'm making 5oz bottles, too. I already pumped one!" His response, "LOL. Okay, sweetheart. I told you I support whatever you want to do."

 

I've literally tried every supplement I know about out there, so I just need to accept my boobs for what they are. I think taking these next few weeks to build up a backstock will help a LOT because I'd literally cry when I'd pick him up and he'd have no bottles left... I'd take him over there with 2-3 bottles and pick him up with 0... And would have only pumped 3-4oz so far that day. It's extremely stressful on me. So I think if I get a nice solid backstock built up, it'll help alleviate some of the stress I'm in, which in turn MIGHT help my supply.

 

*Crosses fingers*

 

I really don't know what I'd do without you ladies. I only have one person IRL that breastfeeds... And she's one of those ladies that produces WAY too much. Her daughter is three or four weeks old and she already has 200oz frozen. O_o Everyone else I know either straight up didn't try... Or only lasted for a few weeks. And EVERY Mom I know is a SAHM. Weird. I just realized that.

 

Also, how would you ladies go about telling my sister and MIL to lay off the milk? How do I explain to them that everytime he cries he ISN'T hungry? I'm so afraid of offending them. I'm afraid I'll approach it the wrong way.


Edited by CDsMom1031 - 3/13/12 at 5:39pm
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