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Hello all! Any other first time UCers due this summer?post #1 of 263/10/12 at 6:06amThread StarterHello! I'm so happy to have found this forum! I'm a stay at home mom to a 20m in Boston and expecting another late this summer. We had a pretty good natural hospital birth with my son but have decided to UP and UC for our second. I am deeply at peace with my pregnancy and this decision and so excited to learn absolutely everything! I hope to find others to share this journey with me. I am going to be reading Laura Shanleys book and Emergency Childbirth Manual this week if anyone wants to chat about it. Thank you everyone for sharing your stories and providing this amazing resource!post #2 of 263/13/12 at 1:55pmpost #3 of 263/14/12 at 7:49am
Welcome! I'm also having my 5th baby (all girls lol), but this is my first UC. I'm due the 4th of July and excited to have this experience. My first 4 were all hospital births, but my 4th was a birth center transfer. I ended up with pretty bad PTSD for about a year afterwards, which is a major part of why I plan to do things unassisted this time.post #4 of 263/14/12 at 8:27amThread Starterpost #5 of 263/14/12 at 3:57pmpost #6 of 263/14/12 at 8:30pmHi all I am brand new to this site. I am planning my first uc, I am due end of May beginning of June with my second and can't wait!! I had a natural first hospital birth but wasn't happy with my care or delivery so here's hoping this uc will make up for it!! If anyone has an tips on good reads (books or here online please lmk!!)
Thanks:)post #7 of 263/16/12 at 10:26amThread StarterI really liked Emergency Chidbirth: A Manuel and am just delving into Laura Shanleys book now. My last labor was definitely aided by Ina May Gaskins natural birth book. I definitely get more interested in birth stories closer to the time. Are you guys doing your own prenatal care or seeing a mw/ob?post #8 of 263/17/12 at 5:39pm
I'm planning my first UC in August! Very excited. I am also doing my own prenatal care because our insurance, which we pay out the wazoo for!!!, sucks. And the midwife fees in New Mexico are high, because most insurances here pay for midwifery care. We qill move to Nebraska 4 weeks b4 my due date and midwives can't attend homebirths there.
I am hoping to develop my list of needed supplies... I am a compulsive planner. I have a birth kit, but without the midwife, there are lots of extra things needed- placenta bowl, good scissors, doppler and gel (not necessary to everyone, but I will want it), and I'll have a shot of pitocin there to help the placenta out.... This is my 4th and it's an ISSUE my body has, apparently!
One big issue I have is clean-up. My last 2 HB's the midwife and her assistant did that, and I hate to have Dh do it! Maybe we will hire a doula to help with that?post #9 of 263/18/12 at 10:30amThread StarterI'm planning on getting an herbal preparation called Placenta Out (Sheeps purse I believe?) and remaining at least sitting up until it comes. I'm not too worried about the mess but I plan on buying a ton of towels and double making the bed with a plastic sheet in between. Hopefully my water will break while I'm in our bathtub. We have wooden floors so easy cleanup if any blood spills around. I think the price is a factor for me as far as a hb mw. It would be 3-5 grand on top of my health insurance and it feels uneccessary.post #10 of 263/18/12 at 11:05am
Quote:Originally Posted by AbigailG
I'm planning on getting an herbal preparation called Placenta Out (Sheeps purse I believe?) and remaining at least sitting up until it comes. I'm not too worried about the mess but I plan on buying a ton of towels and double making the bed with a plastic sheet in between. Hopefully my water will break while I'm in our bathtub. We have wooden floors so easy cleanup if any blood spills around. I think the price is a factor for me as far as a hb mw. It would be 3-5 grand on top of my health insurance and it feels uneccessary.
I don't have my books handy -- but probably the main ingredient in that placenta preparation is Angelica? Shepard's Purse would be taken after the placenta is delivered to stop hemorrhage, from what I remember, you should absolutely not take it if you have not yet delivered the placenta and verified that you have not retained a piece. You should check out "Wise Woman Herbal for the Childbearing Year." Also, I high recommend getting a copy of "Heart and Hands" by Elizabeth Davis, the Emergency cb manual is a good starting place, but Heart and Hands goes much further in depth for complications. It also has some sections about herbs/homeopathy too. For my UC I had a preparation to start stalled labors (didnt use), Angelia (didnt use), Shepard's Purse (did use but maybe didn't need to), and Comfrey infusion I made for small labial tear after.
I don't think you can have too many towels on handpost #11 of 263/18/12 at 1:49pmThread Starterpost #12 of 263/18/12 at 3:58pm
You might wanna check out "Unassisted Homebirth" by Lynn Griesemer too, I preferred that one over Shanley's book...
Also, not UC specific, but I really liked "Active Birth" by Janet Balaskas, very helpful for positioning suggestions. I bought some of these used on amazon for pretty cheap... but if you can find them at the library first that's great!post #13 of 263/18/12 at 5:29pmpost #14 of 263/19/12 at 7:02ampost #15 of 263/20/12 at 12:44ampost #16 of 263/20/12 at 12:45ampost #17 of 263/20/12 at 12:52pmpost #18 of 263/24/12 at 2:51ampost #19 of 263/25/12 at 4:57pmI am UP and UC for the first time and due July 14th. I've had a breech HB and a vertex HB, both with midwives, both of which went well, though I think the vertex could've gone better - I should've gotten back in the water. I've been reading online, and plan to order a copy of Heart and Hands for more info. I've read Unassisted Homebirth: An act of Love by Griesemer, which has stories but no technical info, and Emergency Cb by Dr. White (who attended the birth of myself and the next 3 sibs, and who went from my 1st midwife's 1st daughter's birth to mine, small world, lol). The latter is mostly common sense.
I'm very interested in wharton's jelly and its role in closing the cord w/o the need to clamp - very cool! Midwifethinking is an interesting blog. Navelgazingmidwife has some interesting stuff too, but be prepared to find politicized stuff, as well as to encounter her extreme dislike of UC (which she tried, though not properly prepared), and be warned of her tongue, she doesn't hold it - if you can wade through that to get to the good/useful stuff, there are a few "gems".
I wanted to do waterbirth w/ my 2nd, DS the vertex, but dilation stopped at 6cm and I had to get out. Ended up delivering on my side on the bed. If I could do it over I'd get back in the tub when dilation was at 8 - the water was great for ctx, they tired me out quickly after I got out. I will go for WB again this time.
So far, my self-prenatals involve the blood pressure machine with pulse readout once a month, taking my vits, eating well, and recording my weight. I've been gauging fundal height by fingers below and above navel. Today I was able to palpate the head, and so far I've been unsuccessful at finding babe's heartbeat, but all we have is a cheap stethoscope. Considering getting a fetoscope, but don't know if they're really better - anybody have experience there? I'm 24 weeks today.post #20 of 263/27/12 at 1:08pmThread Starter
Ive been reading Heart and Hands..lots of info about complications, which is useful, but the role of the midwife seems to be very hands on. Which is what I'm trying to avoid by having an unassisted birth. I'm wondering what everyone else thinks about these more midwife driven books (also Ina May Gaskins Guide to Childbirth). What did you take away with you after reading these types of birth stories where the midwifes were so central to the delivery?
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