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Weekly Chat! March 11 through March 17th! - Page 4

post #61 of 137
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Onemore, my DH is finishing papers and presentations right now.  He only has 2 grad level classes, but with that and working full time... he is a busy dude!  And the stress of school work is no fun.  It will be nice when it is all over! 

 

I almost wish I couldn't sleep... we all over slept this morning by over an hour!  Everyone was late to school and work...

 

OMG, Cristeen, I keep doing what you did--doing waaay too much physical stuff/cleaning and then just being wiped out for a day or two afterwards.  I wish there was some way to slow down....

 

I think that is why I am decided to hire this cleaning team.  I won't freak out and they'll do a better job then I will, anyway... and then it will be done.  I am just madly decluttering organizing... !!!!!

post #62 of 137
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=360166837357666&set=a.194206763953675.44713.167486533292365&type=1

 

This was on my FB this morning- hip displasia with different carriers. Super basic picture, I hope this loads properly for anyone interested!



 

Thanks for the link - that picture really helps explain it. 
 

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Meredith: I think you should make the chiro appt. I keep meaning to myself - because I've been so uncomfortable recently... and with DS I went to a chiro every week and I'm sure that helped me feel as good as I did while so darn huge.

a good pregnancy chiro can really get babe to move, just by opening things up and giving him more space to flip.  Also - ever do any yoga?  I think bridge pose is very very good for breech position - and feels great on your back. Are there any prenatal yoga teachers near you you could talk to?

 

THere's also the swimming pool - doing some flips and handstands in the water... but that always seems more silly than anything to me. I mean, just how many flips do you have to do in the water? I think yoga postures are more feasible!
 

 


I'm def. going to make a chiro appt. I've actually never been to a chiropractor but DS saw one when he had torticullis (sp?) a while back and it helped him tremendously. I read about something called the "Webster" technique I think that chiros use to help turn the baby. 

 

I'm going to look into spinning babies as well --- I'm not familiar with it but eager to learn more about any ways to get baby to turn. And yoga too... I have the netflix video...He has time, but...I'd love for him to get head down already just to give me peace of mind about the birth. 

 

 



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After my pity party yesterday I got my paper wrote (Sandy-I only did 5 pages double spaced size 12 font. The prof. likes me so I don't anticipate being marked down too much as he is one who grades more on quality and opinion. After five pages I just ran out of stuff and I know he hates fluff. It was stressing  me out yesterday though! Thank you for your offers of help. You are so kind!)

 

I got one of my psych finals done with an 82%- I am technically DONE with psychology now!

 

I am working on my 2nd final which is a 3 day meal plan meeting all nutritional needs and staying within caloric and fat recommendations. Not too bad!

After I am done with this just the one more Criminal justice final on monday and I am done.

I can't believe how overwhelming everything felt the last two days, compared to how easily everything has fallen into place today. The kids are behaving and Dh just went to drive to my fave coffee spot to buy me a small espresso and a key lime bar, bless his heart...Wind is starting to pick up though, so I hope he gets back soon!

 

Living rural and being new to the area I don't really have any friends, so it was so nice to be able to blab to you ladies. Thank you for listening!

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Woa, sounds like you've been super productive!! 

 

 


 

 

post #63 of 137
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Giving advice is perfectly acceptable.  However, when someone isn't actually asking for advice every time they post something that they have purchased (i.e. me) and everyone jumps on board to talk about how awful that product is, it gets a little disheartening.  I don't believe anyone has any bad intentions, but at a certain point, when I am excited to post that I just bought something (snugli, travel system, nursery decorations) and every one tells me how that is a bad purchase, it just feels a little less supportive and little more like it's "my way or the highway" on this board. 

 

Being a new mom is so exciting until I get on here and talk about it...

 

Anyways, no need to get into another argument.  I will try not to post anything I purchase since I will assume 95% of you will disagree with it.  Gosh, this was supposed to be fun to share the baby excitement. Sigh.

 

I'm really sorry you're feeling this way, and I never thought about it in an accumulated way.... If every time you post something and we bash it then I'm really sorry, and I'll try to remember if it happens again and keep my mouth shut. It's one thing if it's an isolated incident, but if it's happening a lot I'm sorry. I also know how hard it is to be an excited first time mom who has dreamed of buying stuff like that for so long to be told it isn't that great in the end- I've been in that position, excitedly buying everything and thrilled when I got something - anything! - off of my registery. I know there are people who rolled their eyes at my choices and the things i was talking about, and who told me "don't bother" and I ignored them and/or got mad at them.... it turns out most of them didn't work for me, and now I'm doing it to someone else. I'll have to give myself a big eye-roll. There's a very good chance a lot of those things would have worked for my second, but by then I was in an "I hate all things" mood when it came to baby stuff (difficult first kids make it hard to think any other way, I think!) so now i just bash indiscriminately, forgetting the number of people I know who had all those things and loved them all. I don't mean just travel systems and snuglis, but jumperoos, baby bouncers, exersaucers, Sofie the Giraffe, toys that make sounds... oh, hell, everything. My first hated everything, and I am now anti all baby things, essentially.

Gosh, sounds terrible when you put it that way, doesn't it? I'm sorry, despite any hairbrained reasons I have for being rude, for posting the negatives without any positives and without thinking that maybe you were excited. I forget the excitement of buying baby things and I guess it's easier to be rude then it is to rejoice.
 

 

post #64 of 137

I as looking at the spinning babies website today because my kiddo is currently breech. You mean it used to be worse? LOL It starts to makes sense after a while but wow, it is not logically put together at all. 

http://www.spinningbabies.com/

 

 

post #65 of 137
Thanks all! Maryam, how sweet that you thought of me. It was kind if a rough move but I am glad to be here now.

It would be a hoot to get the SF mommas together. Especially once the babies are born too!

Apparently my friends are plotting a baby shower. Woah! Feeling so loved.
post #66 of 137

I do hate that people are feeling picked on, but I have learned *a lot* from these various discussions on baby items.  I chose MDC based on the natural-parenting approach because, as a first-time mom, I need and want to learn as much as I can.  My family thinks being natural is having a drug-free birth and breastfeeding and that's it.  For me, it goes so much further, but I don't have much of a support system IRL.  I've had people give me constructive criticism on the board before and I'm glad they were willing to give advice.  Yes, it was unsolicited, but that's one of the reasons I'm here...forums are meant for like-minded folks, right?

 

I think everyone has been civil, thus far, and I would hate for people to filter themselves because they don't want to step on anyone's toes.  There are so many wise mama's on this board and I appreciate everyone's willingness to share their experiences.  Just my 2-cents. 

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Do you guys think it's appropriate to put sibling gifts on a baby registery? My work is throwing me and my pregnant coworker a co-shower, and want lists of things we need. There are a few basics I want like diaper cream, a few new baby toys since ours are a bit worn now, um... okay, that's all I can think of. Then I need bigger things like a carseat and a soft structured carrier that people can pitch in on but isn't as much fun to buy. We need clothes but we don't know gender, so that's hard to buy for. I'd love to give the kids "from baby" gifts so having something for them- even just something new to keep them occupied during the transitional period, so could I put that on a shower list or is that just weird?

 

 

 

 

post #68 of 137
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I'm really sorry you're feeling this way, and I never thought about it in an accumulated way.... If every time you post something and we bash it then I'm really sorry, and I'll try to remember if it happens again and keep my mouth shut. It's one thing if it's an isolated incident, but if it's happening a lot I'm sorry. I also know how hard it is to be an excited first time mom who has dreamed of buying stuff like that for so long to be told it isn't that great in the end- I've been in that position, excitedly buying everything and thrilled when I got something - anything! - off of my registery. I know there are people who rolled their eyes at my choices and the things i was talking about, and who told me "don't bother" and I ignored them and/or got mad at them.... it turns out most of them didn't work for me, and now I'm doing it to someone else. I'll have to give myself a big eye-roll. There's a very good chance a lot of those things would have worked for my second, but by then I was in an "I hate all things" mood when it came to baby stuff (difficult first kids make it hard to think any other way, I think!) so now i just bash indiscriminately, forgetting the number of people I know who had all those things and loved them all. I don't mean just travel systems and snuglis, but jumperoos, baby bouncers, exersaucers, Sofie the Giraffe, toys that make sounds... oh, hell, everything. My first hated everything, and I am now anti all baby things, essentially.

Gosh, sounds terrible when you put it that way, doesn't it? I'm sorry, despite any hairbrained reasons I have for being rude, for posting the negatives without any positives and without thinking that maybe you were excited. I forget the excitement of buying baby things and I guess it's easier to be rude then it is to rejoice.
 

 


I appreciate it and I don't want anyone to think I am trying to be negative, I just have come to the conclusion that really, I shouldn't post everything I buy.  I do appreciate advice, I have listened to a lot of what you guys have said.  Before I got on here, I was in the camp of wanting drugs during birth but now I am completely going for natural without drugs (hopefully) so I think that is a big change I have gotten from this board.  The fact remains, I won't agree with everything you guys say, but that is OK, we each have to find our own way of doing things.  And I can't help but be reminded that I joined this board without realizing it was such a natural parenting board.  I do know now, but when I joined I didn't know "mothering" was synonymous with "crunchy".  So it makes sense, I suppose, that the majority of people won't really agree with the way I do things, as I don't consider myself that far on that side.  I am more in the middle.  Something good for me to realize moving forward.

 

post #69 of 137
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Do you guys think it's appropriate to put sibling gifts on a baby registery? My work is throwing me and my pregnant coworker a co-shower, and want lists of things we need. There are a few basics I want like diaper cream, a few new baby toys since ours are a bit worn now, um... okay, that's all I can think of. Then I need bigger things like a carseat and a soft structured carrier that people can pitch in on but isn't as much fun to buy. We need clothes but we don't know gender, so that's hard to buy for. I'd love to give the kids "from baby" gifts so having something for them- even just something new to keep them occupied during the transitional period, so could I put that on a shower list or is that just weird?

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't BTDT, but as someone who has purchased off registries for friends in the past I think my thought process would be, "oh that's for an older kid, she probably has tons of baby toys, so she's probably trying to make sure she'll have something for the baby when he/she is older."  I have an odd line of logic :)  Anyhow, I don't think it's inappropriate.  It would be odd if there was a lot of toddler stuff, but a few things wouldn't look out of place to me.  I don't have other kids, so I don't know if experienced moms would think otherwise.  I think it's really sweet you're thinking of the siblings!
 

 

post #70 of 137
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I as looking at the spinning babies website today because my kiddo is currently breech. You mean it used to be worse? LOL It starts to makes sense after a while but wow, it is not logically put together at all. 

http://www.spinningbabies.com/

 

 



It used to be *horrible* like near impossible to navigate! But it does have some good techniques...

post #71 of 137

the spinning babies site is so oddly put together, and the writing is so weird. i know the techniques are good but it's hard for me to even understand what they're saying sometimes it's so oddly written!

But it's a lot better than three years ago, that's for sure!

 

I'm pretty sure baby is head down - but posterior. I feel so much pressure on my cervix and even on my bum. It has to be the heavy head down there. But then I feel like a reverse tickling and low below my belly button that seems like fingers. its right in the middle of my belly below my belly button. And then, the occasional big pushing kick up higher. Both the right and left sides, though I think mostly the right side.

 

I'm fairly certain there's plenty of time for baby to turn around to anterior position over the next 7/8 weeks (! OMG!! so soon!) but I'm wondering if there are positions I'm supposed to avoid/put myself in to encourage proper alignment while pregnant, not just in labor.

 

 

post #72 of 137
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Originally Posted by rozziemama View Post

the spinning babies site is so oddly put together, and the writing is so weird. i know the techniques are good but it's hard for me to even understand what they're saying sometimes it's so oddly written!

But it's a lot better than three years ago, that's for sure!

 

I'm pretty sure baby is head down - but posterior. I feel so much pressure on my cervix and even on my bum. It has to be the heavy head down there. But then I feel like a reverse tickling and low below my belly button that seems like fingers. its right in the middle of my belly below my belly button. And then, the occasional big pushing kick up higher. Both the right and left sides, though I think mostly the right side.

 

I'm fairly certain there's plenty of time for baby to turn around to anterior position over the next 7/8 weeks (! OMG!! so soon!) but I'm wondering if there are positions I'm supposed to avoid/put myself in to encourage proper alignment while pregnant, not just in labor.

 

 


My Bradley instructor said that "Tailor Sitting" is good for encouraging the anterior position.  I googled Tailor Sitting for posterior baby and some pretty neat stuff came up...

http://doula4birth.com/ofp.htm

 

and

 

www.birthways.com/girlnet_docs/Natural_Measures.pdf  at the very bottom of this pdf it says:

Keeping the baby in the head down position:
Tailor Sitting 10-20 minutes 2x per day (soles of your feet together, touching, in
front of you, lean forward)


Turning the baby from posterior to anterior:
Pelvic Rocking
Squatting
Forward Sitting (avoid bucket seats and slouching)
Hands and Knees
Belly Dancing

 

She also said that slouching backward (like when you sit on a couch) will encourage the posterior position.  The "leaning forward" stuff seems to really promote an anterior baby.

 

Now I've got "Turn baby turn" (think Disco Inferno) stuck in my head, oh geez.

 

post #73 of 137
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Originally Posted by rozziemama View Post

the spinning babies site is so oddly put together, and the writing is so weird. i know the techniques are good but it's hard for me to even understand what they're saying sometimes it's so oddly written!

But it's a lot better than three years ago, that's for sure!

 

I'm pretty sure baby is head down - but posterior. I feel so much pressure on my cervix and even on my bum. It has to be the heavy head down there. But then I feel like a reverse tickling and low below my belly button that seems like fingers. its right in the middle of my belly below my belly button. And then, the occasional big pushing kick up higher. Both the right and left sides, though I think mostly the right side.

 

I'm fairly certain there's plenty of time for baby to turn around to anterior position over the next 7/8 weeks (! OMG!! so soon!) but I'm wondering if there are positions I'm supposed to avoid/put myself in to encourage proper alignment while pregnant, not just in labor.

 

 


Also, crawling around on hands and knees.... do you need to do your floors?  That would help ;)

 

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Thanks Casmer!

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My Bradley instructor said that "Tailor Sitting" is good for encouraging the anterior position.  I googled Tailor Sitting for posterior baby and some pretty neat stuff came up...

http://doula4birth.com/ofp.htm

 

and

 

www.birthways.com/girlnet_docs/Natural_Measures.pdf  at the very bottom of this pdf it says:

Keeping the baby in the head down position:
Tailor Sitting 10-20 minutes 2x per day (soles of your feet together, touching, in
front of you, lean forward)


Turning the baby from posterior to anterior:
Pelvic Rocking
Squatting
Forward Sitting (avoid bucket seats and slouching)
Hands and Knees
Belly Dancing

 

She also said that slouching backward (like when you sit on a couch) will encourage the posterior position.  The "leaning forward" stuff seems to really promote an anterior baby.

 

Now I've got "Turn baby turn" (think Disco Inferno) stuck in my head, oh geez.

 



 

post #75 of 137
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the spinning babies site is so oddly put together, and the writing is so weird. i know the techniques are good but it's hard for me to even understand what they're saying sometimes it's so oddly written!


I agree! I was just looking at the site and getting kind of frustrated by the layout. I'm going to try the techniques though. 

 

My baby is still breech - I can't be sure but I think he is "footling" breech because I feel kicks very very low -- like it feels like he is kicking my cervix sometimes. 

 

 

Astria, I don't think it would be weird to put a few gifts for older kids on the registry...I would make sure to register for a few more baby things too though - even if it is just yellow and green onesies. That way, there are a number of fun little things for shower guests to buy. 

 

 

 

 

post #76 of 137

Yeah, that site is WAY better than it used to be.  Compared to the old version, I felt like it made a good deal of sense this time, lol. 

 

And, Meredith, I totally second the chiro.  My baby was head down, but off to the side, posterior with the head in my right hip.  After one adjustment (and some crazy bad rlp afterwards while my body accepted the new adjustment), the baby went head down, anterior, and nice and center.  I was amazed. 

 

Astria- I think older kid gifts are fine, but agree that it would be good to put some baby things on there, too.  It's about you...so do what you need. :)

 

And, as far as the crunchy vs mainstream thing going on here...  Maybe we could start a few threads to talk about some of those big topics that crunchy mama's want to discuss ad nausem.  Then those of us who want to really talk it up can, and then people who don't but are curious could read, and people who don't want to don't have to.  That would let this thread be a dedicated place of support...  What do you all think?  We could revive a few of the older threads, and add some about vaccinating, circumsizing, baby carriers and gadgets and flashy stuff, minimal living, etc.  I'm not offended if the idea doesn't take off, just wanted to suggest it to maybe find an avenue of respect for both sides.  I know that I've been feeling like there's a general gag order against all things crunchy across MDC, and have nearly sworn off the whole site more than once.

post #77 of 137
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I don't know, I take it like reading reviews on Amazon for a product-- some people love it and some people hate it, but the information and experience is interesting. 

I think it is healthy to share why a product or experience was good or bad, etc. Like I vaccinate, but like to talk about it and discuss it because I think it is important to think about it... and I may in the end decide to vaccinate, but it is really helpful to hear why people do not.  I don't get offended when people say that they could never do that and think it is totally crazy. 

 

But bringing up the old threads or starting new ones -- I actually prefer starting new one, since there is probably a reason the old ones died.... is a good idea. 

 

 

post #78 of 137

Is it me or does the spinning babies website really slow your computer up?  Maybe it's just Firefox...I quit using it for awhile and used safari, somehow DH got me using it again. 

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And, as far as the crunchy vs mainstream thing going on here...  Maybe we could start a few threads to talk about some of those big topics that crunchy mama's want to discuss ad nausem.  Then those of us who want to really talk it up can, and then people who don't but are curious could read, and people who don't want to don't have to.  That would let this thread be a dedicated place of support...  What do you all think?  We could revive a few of the older threads, and add some about vaccinating, circumsizing, baby carriers and gadgets and flashy stuff, minimal living, etc.  I'm not offended if the idea doesn't take off, just wanted to suggest it to maybe find an avenue of respect for both sides.  I know that I've been feeling like there's a general gag order against all things crunchy across MDC, and have nearly sworn off the whole site more than once.

You've been here way longer than I have, what gives you this feeling?  Just curious :)  I feel like what forestmushroom explained.  Also, I think it's important to realize that 1) we'll all a little hormonal :) and 2) You can't tell tone of voice on the internet, so it's probably not worth getting worked up over...people likely don't mean to come across rudely, but it can easily be taken that way when we read/hear something we don't like (or want to be told).  

I don't particularly like having to section things off, but I'll go with whatever.  Is there a movement away from the more natural stuff on MDC? I'm just confused...

 

 

In other news, want to make a pregnant lady cry?  Tell she can't take her *empty* $25 Kleen Kanteen and make her throw it in the ditch.  Needless to say, I was lucky to get into the show, but turned right around, left and got my water bottle back.  NO ONE has given me any issues about it and one of the SXSW staff was going to let me take it in empty, but some other guy on a power-trip decided he was the end all, be all and wouldn't let me take it in.  Before I got into the doors, the pot (you can smoke pot, but not let the preggo take an empty bottle in?!) was so over-whelming it was nauseating.  Obviously, I didn't need to be in there...it wasn't open air and it wouldn't have been healthy for me or baby.  This was the first SXSW experience like that and I'll just avoid that club in the future.  Ugh, what a bummer.  I cried for a loooong time and DH was so sweet about it and was cool with me wanting to go home and wallow.  I did find $5 on the ground, so I guess that was a bonus :)  I also told DH, "I hope that guys penis burns all night"  Oh geez....haha. 
 

post #79 of 137

Casmer that irritates me for you! I don't get what is up with these power trippers. There was just one on the news the other day about a TSA agent with empty bottles for breastmilk. Apparently bottles now have to be filled with breastmilk before being allowed on the plane. *scratches head*

 

Just1more, I think what you're seeing is the pendulum beginning to swing the opposite direction. When I first came to MDC in 2003 it really did much more harm *for* me as a parent than help. I was already insecure and it was so hard to be yourself. You know someone posted a "Oh hell no" gif the other day and it shocked me because --- it was funny, but something like that would have gotten you kicked off the site as a kkk racist 8 years ago. Or a thread shut down. Mods were constantly shutting down threads.

 

I remember there being "Invite a Native American to Dinner" type threads and...just...so much *asnine* political correctness that it was stifling...

Now, well I can clearly see that political correctness has went the other way and we could very well have ads for Coca Cola alongside threads asking about what kind of circ would be best.

So...I hear you. The internet grew up I suppose...

 

Not the best at being subtle so I'll just say it as gently as I can -

I personally like hearing about the cons of certain items- yep even the ones I like (which there have been a few things!).

 For some of us we have to learn things the hard way, or may blow off your advice, some of us may think you're ridiculous ---but if it helps one person than its totally worth it.

 

I've used padded ring slings for years with my kids. I still will for this one. Does that mean I blew off the warnings a mom posted on here about padded ring slings? Nope. I thank her for letting me know even if it isn't exactly going to change the way I do things. Atleast I know to be more aware, because that extra vigillince just might be what *could* save my kids life some day. Who knows.

 

Same with you Janelle, try to not be offended about the hip thing. Unless you are one of those people that truly believe 'nothing like that will ever happen to me' than that little bit of knowledge (even if it bums you out or you feel picked on) could be what saves little Deacon some serious problems later on.

Try to look at it that way instead of as a personal pride thing. Know what I mean?

 

Personally I appreciate the personal experience posts and Grace, I totally didn't think you were being rude either.

 

 

post #80 of 137

I first came to MDC in 2005 anticipating the adoption of DD1. I wanted to know about baby wearing, cloth diapering and attachment but the biological aspects of parenting (you know, the stuff I couldn't do) such as childbirth and breastfeeding was everything. The ONLY place you were allowed to discuss formula feeding was in the adoption section and there were often drive by comments there about how we should all just try inducing lactation or getting donor milk. There are better ways to formula feed if that's what you need to do but I wasn't going to find them at MDC.

 

I started back in 2008 when TTC DD2. It seemed more open. There were rules about not attacking other moms which seemed good. I no longer seemed to be getting constant warnings about my comments. Now it seems pretty wide open and I'm not so sure that's useful either. Forums that one might consider neutral like book or TV discussion used to be really busy but now there is hardly anyone there. If you look at new posts it seems like the Due Date Clubs get most of the action. There is a not more to being a mother than pregnancy and childbirth.

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