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[TalkToMeNow]

Wow, thanks for the info, Joanie! I'll definitely pass some of it along to dh. He is very fit and doesn't smoke, and I can tell his snoring is coming from his throat. It used to stop when he turned onto his side, but not anymore! Now, he does have 2-3 beers every evening. Hmm.

[jbk21]

Thanks, Joanie!  My DH has his annual physical next week, so I will have him bring this up with the doctor.  

[birdhappy85]

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Originally Posted by seraf 

My DD snores and she nursed for 3 years.  Thanks for the info.   

Yeah, breastfeeding surely develops the muscles the best but there are a lot of other reasons for airway obstructions if they are present. Have you had your DD checked out before? Pediatric sleep studies are common. Our Children's Hospital in Milwaukee has its own dedicated sleep lab for it. I'm not entirely sure but I think a lot of times all that children need is to have their tonsils removed. My 4-year-old nephew is actually going for a sleep study soon. He had his tonsils removed but is still having breathing issues in his sleep. God bless whoever performs his sleep study... My husband tried administering the first sleep study for him at 3 years old. He was all hooked up and my DH thought it would be smooth sailing. He just had to put one last piece of equipment under the nose... It woke up my nephew and he flipped out, tearing at the wires connected to his head and projectile vomited everywhere. Needless to say, that sleep study didn't happen. LOL!

[jbk21]

I breathe through my mouth at night.  I wonder if there is an obstruction!  My DH reports that I only snore when sick or pregnant.  I am also a side-sleeper, so maybe that helps?  This is so interesting!  

[seraf]

I have not taken her for a sleep study. She snores mostly when sick, so I don't worry too much. If it gets worse I will consider it but we don't have insurance so it's not likely to happen unless something big happened.

I did mention the tonsil thing to DP since that is likely her issue.

[wellforth]

I'm a mouth breather too, having had chronic respiratory issues in a house of smokers as a kid.  I don't normally snore, but last night, as I was thinking about beating my head against the wall, sandwiched between my snoring dh and my fidgety baby who had just nursed for three hours straight, I somehow fell asleep and let out the biggest snort ever.  I woke THEM up for a change.  Of course, then I had to nurse for another hour.

I am wondering...  I told someone today that Luca still wakes 4-5 times a night, and they looked at me like I was crazy.  Mine is not the only one, right?

carey

[Abraisme]

Coralie wakes up 3-4 times, which seems normal from my experience.  When people ask me if she 'sleeps through the night', I always respond with, "She sleeps AT night, but wakes to nurse".  That seems to stop further questioning.

 

Originally Posted by wellforth 

I'm a mouth breather too, having had chronic respiratory issues in a house of smokers as a kid.  I don't normally snore, but last night, as I was thinking about beating my head against the wall, sandwiched between my snoring dh and my fidgety baby who had just nursed for three hours straight, I somehow fell asleep and let out the biggest snort ever.  I woke THEM up for a change.  Of course, then I had to nurse for another hour.

I am wondering...  I told someone today that Luca still wakes 4-5 times a night, and they looked at me like I was crazy.  Mine is not the only one, right?

carey

[TalkToMeNow]

Originally Posted by Abraisme 

Coralie wakes up 3-4 times, which seems normal from my experience.  When people ask me if she 'sleeps through the night', I always respond with, "She sleeps AT night, but wakes to nurse".  That seems to stop further questioning.

 

Yep, yep, yep. When people ask how Jasper is sleeping, I answer, "Good," and leave it at that. If they ask if he is sleeping through the night, I say, "No, but I don't expect him to at this age." I'm sorry, but I have zero expectation that a four month old should STTN. And you know people aren't asking about the real definition of STTN at this age- 5 hours. They mean put the kid in bed at seven and he sleeps till seven. So yeah, he doesn't do that and I don't see it as any kind of problem. But that's me! 

Not that there's anything wrong if that happens... I just don't think it's very common in the non-CIO community. As for the number of times J is up, I really couldn't say. Once he is in bed with me, I can't really keep up. He could wake to nurse every 10 min, or it could be every 2 hours. He could just nurse constantly. It sure feels like he does! I'd guess he nurses, finishes, and then sleeps for 1-2 hours. The closer to morning, the more frequently he nurses. 

[seraf]

I think it depends on what you call night.  If I went to bed at 9, and got up at 5, Shay wakes once.  If I went to bed at 11 and got up at 7, he wakes 3-4 times.  As it is, he wakes twice, but I think he falls into the "has plenty of fat reserves to get through the night" camp.  He is up way more in the wee hours of the morning.

[KaliShanti]

Enoch has been sleeping 8-11 hours at night since 2.5 months of age. No CIO. He sleeps in his own bed/room. But this is more unusual and he is the only one of my kids to do so this early. Glad since I have two other young kids plus I'm out odd hours as a birth doula/photog too!

[Jaimee]

Avery is still shocking me with his awesome sleep!  He's going to bed a bit earlier now- more like 9:30 or 10 instead of 11 and waking for the day around 6:30am.  He wakes up zero to one times during that period.  It's flippin' amazing to me after dealing with dd and ds1 who woke all the time.  I am just hoping and hoping and hoping that it doesn't all go down the tubes in the next month or so.  I'm also wondering how teething will affect him.  He's gnawing on his hands all day long and going through several outfits a day due to soaking them with slobber.  I'm wondering if he'll get his first tooth sooner than his siblings.

But I want to second what Amanda said... I would never expect an infant to STTN at this age and that's by defining it as a 5 hour stretch.  By not expecting this, it helps to deal with "bad" sleep and makes "good" sleep feel that much better.

[wellforth]

Two GREAT nights of sleep here, meaning waking 4-5 times with 2 hours or so between wakings.  I can handle this so much easier than three straight hours of constant fidgety nursing, followed by a 4 a.m. wake up.  I don't expect to sleep through the night, but sleeping most of the time I'm in bed, as opposed to lying there awake and uncomfortable, is pretty nice.

carey

[jbk21]

How is everyone doing?  4 month sleep regression?  

I think Dylan is definitely going through a regression.  I don't always count how many times he wakes, but I did over the weekend and when he woke 5-6 times it felt like heaven.  So I think he had been waking like 8-9 times last week.  Then on Sunday night he was trying to roll over in his sleep and that kept waking him (and me!).  Last night he woke 4 times I think, and I am feeling like a million bucks today!  

[LunaLady]

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Edited by LunaLady - 6/25/12 at 11:08pm

[seraf]

5 months over here. Shay woke at 5:30 and 7:30 last night. He has been going to bed later, but he went to bed at 8:30 last night.

[birdhappy85]

Sora is sleeping awesome. (knock on wood) She has only been waking once super early in the morning around 4am and then sleeping again until 6:30-ish. She slept straight from 8pm-5am last night, though.  It was too long for me because my boobs needed emptying! I ended up sleeping poorly, tossing and turning, expecting her to wake up. Bah. I'm not anticipating that long stretch of sleep becoming a habit, but one can hope.  She had a horrible regression a little past 3 months old, so maybe we lucked out and got over it early. We'll see.

Edited by birdhappy85 - 4/3/12 at 12:41pm

[wellforth]

It has been rough here.  Luca's cutting his upper canines now, and he's had a hard time sleeping.  He used to sleep roughly 6p to 6a, waking up often enough to nurse.  8-9 times is rough, 4-5 times is great, and usually somewhere in between.  Lately, though, he's not getting to sleep until 9, though he is sleeping til more like 7 or 8.  It's like the last nap doesn't take, and then he doesn't go to bed.  Ugh.  And he's not just chilling out, he's Mr. Grumpypants. 

Tonight, he passed out about 7:30, and still out.  We'll see how it goes.  Got out Dr. Sears Sleep book again! 

Oh, and I hate dosing my kid, but gave him some acetaminophen.  I had to guess the dose, and I think I underdosed him, but he's ASLEEP!

carey

[birdhappy85]

Has the actual act of getting your babies to bed at night gotten any easier?

I expected things to get easier but Sora never seems to get used to the idea of going to bed. She still hates it most nights. I just spent nearly 2 hours winding her down. Talk about mind-numbing.  It usually doesn't take THAT long but it's still so much more of a task than I wish it were... I'm holding out hope that someday I'll enjoy putting her to bed when she gets a little older and is more interactive with storytime and all that jazz. Right now she won't sit calmly long enough for me to get through one book. She does not like being rocked for more than a few minutes. I have her in her lullabag so I can't baby-wear her to sleep at night. If I tried doing that and transferring her into her lullabag and then to the crib, she'd for sure wake up and it would all be over. She doesn't seem to want to nurse to sleep anymore either. I've resorted to making phone calls around her bedtime to distract myself to just make it through the tedium of bedtime, and Sora also seems to enjoy listening to me talk on the phone and settles down. That's a win-win (if I can find enough people to talk to, which I can't really, lol). I hate to say it but I just really do not enjoy bedtime at all for her... At least tonight I managed to get her down and soothing herself to sleep without crying her butt off like she has been doing most of the past month. I suppose I should just count my blessings that she's been sleeping well through the night, even if bedtime itself sucks.

[seraf]

Bedtime is different when the kids are home than when it's just the three of us, but the punch line is we lay on the bed and he nurses to sleep within 5 minutes.

Shay gets slap happy when he gets tired. It's charming. He just giggles and laughs at us and we play and roughhouse before bed. Lol. When the big kids are home we do story time and he tries to eat the books, then he goes in the sling for goodnights and we lay down and he passes out on the boob.

I hear it's much harder when I'm not home. He still falls asleep with milk but doesn't stay asleep until later.

When he is nursing and fighting sleep (during the day) I bounce his rump while he nurses. That or jiggling the boob somehow gets him to stay latched on long enough to fall asleep.

[jbk21]

I think a lot of times it is really a trade off, Joanie!  Dylan wakes up SO much, but he goes to bed extremely easily, so I can't really complain I guess!  Our bedtime routine has always looked liked this: I change him into a new diaper and pj's, I nurse him (he does not fall asleep while nursing), he pops off and gets angry with me (I think this might be intestinal upset, or he just wants to burp or be put down, I don't know, but he isn't still hungry) and then I give him is paci and lie him down in bed.  I walk out while he is still awake.  I have always done this.  He always just falls asleep on his own.  I don't rock, carry, or pat him to sleep (usually. There are, of course, random nights where he is really cranked up and needs a bit more winding down).  He sometimes needs me to come back in to put the paci back in, or adjust his position if he's scooted himself around, but usually he's out.  Pretty simple!  My older son was NOT this way, so I am counting my blessings.  He does this for naps too, which is awesome because I just don't have the attention to give him when my older son wants me to come back out and entertain him.