I am so excited I found this group. I am very young still, so most of my peers haven't figured out the type of life everyone has been telling us we're supposed to live is so empty. I always knew I would rather stay home and be frugal, but I got a full-time job for a while just to see what it was like. It was horrible! I can't stand the idea of spending all my time doing aomeone else's work so that I can earn money to pay someone else to do my work (eat out instead of cooking, buying things I could have made,etc). Right now I stay home and dh is a student so we are living off financial aid and his part time job. But we both agree that it's better this way. Someday I would love for him to not have to work a regular job either, but it's going to take a while. Once he graduates he has a military obligation, so I'm hoping that the steady income will enable us to pay off my student loan debt and then start saving for that piece of land. The sooner we reach those goals the more unjobbing we can do! In the meantime I will be primarily caring for the LOs (pregnant with #1 right now). I would like to do some very part-time work doing something I believe in, like a yoga instructor or a doula, but right now ironically I can't afford the training/certification. So I think we are going to have to go through a few years in the military just to set us up for our real lives, and in the meantime just simplify in as many ways as we can. It's so funny because no one in my life understands my goals at all. They're like, why don't you want a good-paying job? They are all working to support their wasteful lifestyles. When I tell people that I would rather be poor than not own my time, I get blank stares. People definitely don't want to think about how much of their lives is spent working for other people compared to how much of it is their own. If they tell themselves it is the only way it makes them feel better. I'd rather figure all this out now than have a mid-life crisis later when I realized I dedicated half my life to other peoples' gain.
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What does everyone do for income? - Page 2post #22 of 456/30/12 at 9:39pmpost #23 of 457/2/12 at 1:31pmWow, this is amazing! All these years I've been down on myself for being inconsistent, for hating to work for anyone else, for insisting on flexibility and independence in my life, etc etc....and I never knew to simply say, "of course I feel this way, I'm an unjobber!" I'm so glad to finally have a term for myself!
My 20s were a series of simultaneous part time jobs ( I could never bear one 40 hour week job, I always preferred two or three 20s), in everything from personal care for mentally handicapped geriatrics to managing an auto body shop to to one great summer as a traveling puppeteer! Then I got married and sat on the couch writing all day. After the divorce I spontaneously moved to Africa, where my unjobbing nature stood me in good stead as I figured out how to start over with no savings and no marketable career skills on a new continent! Ironically, here I was offered the first white collar job of my life, selling advertising for a huge global magazine. My agency is out of europe and I'm the only employee in Kenya, so I work my own hours with no supervision....as long as my numbers are good, my boss is happy. I can take my laptop to the tropical kenyan coast and work onthe beach for a week and my company never even knows. I get to meet all the prestigious players in the Kenyan private sector which has been a fascinating education. And I finally fulfilled one latent dream this unjobber never wanted to admit to.....getting to wear power suits and heels!
I think that if we are committed to a vision for our best life, we will find ways of making it happen. I'm now using my corporate experience and connections here to write a book about female entrepreneurs in Kenya. Writing is what I have always loved most, and now I've found my niche.
Plus, what with unexpectedly taking in a newborn three weeks ago, it's damn handy having a flexible schedule and being able to do most of my work via computer, from home.
Unjobbing is really a dream lifestyle!!post #24 of 457/2/12 at 3:27pm
I am a blogger, and although it took me about a year to bring in an income from my site, last month it did quite well. Our goal is to have my husband work from home in the next four months. It has been a long road to figure out how to 'unjob' and just be self employed in general ( anyone else fail to learn how to be an entrepreneur in school?? I mean couldn't they teach a few classes instead of the emphasis being on getting a job?) but it has been very fulfilling, as I get to stay home with my daughter and unschool her.
Elance.com is a great site for people who want to edit, write for companies, or do design work, as well as virtual assistant type jobs such as running a person's twitter account. I haven't used it myself but have hired several people off of the site and they all like it. I believe it's free as well, to post one's profile :)post #25 of 457/6/12 at 11:41pm
I trade stocks in the stock market. We traded our house we fixed up - materials (whoa) went a long way to get the start going. I am not sure how to talk to anyone and feel good about it though. I think the choices we make can have a little risk but when people think of the market they get worried. All I feel is food :). I guess I do really well. My trick is I have a limit and then I pull out. You can't really set a dollar amount, you have to think a bit more in percentage, but mine usually match. I have to trade on stocks worth around $10 to get it though. I know, everything can fall apart. I think this is why we really want to buy a home and pay for it. We feel that. BUT! Hey, we could always just get a job right? My DH and I both homeschool. We are planning on planting lots of food when we find our home (we might have it really soon, like really soon, just making sure we want to marry it.)
I would love to know where you all live and if you enjoy it. Maybe it is just me, but the cost of living has played a big part in our plan. We have found a cheap beautiful county that is proving to be a lot of fun and is really nice for the kids. People here really want to make it more too - they aren't overwhelmed I guess :). It is fun. We drive around to see all types of nature, beach, and pick fruit.
I can't stop making toys for my own kids, but I would love to make some on Etsy.
A blog is probably going to happen soon. My mom is really, really good at that. I do all kinds of fun, healthy, vintage, DIY, traveling too, that my mom is completely yelling at me to blog. She does this thing called e-commerce and she totally loves it. It is so technically over my head though (though she complains is not, just like filling out forms). She is really good at it though. If she would only build websites!
Blogging seems hard! I love living my life though. It really does seem like it can add a lot to the memory book though. I just wonder how to do it? Short sweet? day to day? all subjects?post #26 of 457/10/12 at 8:06am
Hi there, I work from home marketing all natural health products that are literally changing peoples lives. I have always wanted to help people get healthy, but I never imagined my life being like this. I am home everyday with my kids and because of this amazing business my husband was able to retire from his oilfield job and be at home everyday to do this with me :) now our kids have both of there parents home yay!!! We have been travelling the states and meeting incredible people everywhere we go, and I am truly blessed to be able to help people on a daily basis and excited for the years to come :)post #27 of 457/10/12 at 1:25pm
We don't have a lot of expenses. Our electric comes off of the Columbia River mostly, so it's cheap. We own our trailer, just have 5 more years I think to pay it off. Maybe less. I forget. He's putting extra on it. Water and sewer are free, trash is next to nothing bc we take it to the dump.
I do make some money homeschooling my 3 SILs (16, 14 and 12) 9 months out of the year. Not much, but it pays for my vitamins and health stuff, plus most of the food I order and a few extras.
Mostly, I work to save money. If you don't have a budget, I really recommend it. Snowball any debt and use the envelope system overall. We have a modified version of that.
I also coupon as much as I can. Resist the temptation to get things you don't really use or need just bc you have a good coupon or it blows it. I saved 22% of my grocery/household bill last year. You can print coupons from many online sites (find out your local store's requirements on these first. Some don't take black and white, or need a good quality print. Here I do color but in a draft mode. Works most of the time. Safeway has a rule, if a printed coupon won't scan, they don't accept it. Only had maybe 2 with this problem), get what's in the paper and write companies requesting them.
I also garden and can, freeze and dehydrate. Hubby hunts in the fall, doesn't always get anything, but two out of 4 years he has and that's a big help. 1 deer really took us far this year.
Another little silly thing, I have time to research best buys on online things.
I cook/bake a lot, as well as sew. Those crafts really can save $$.
If you plan to BF your LO and do cloth diapers, that'll save in the long run too.
I make most of my own cleaners too. BIG saving there.
Being a housewife really can save the $$ if you do it well. I'm sure you can! :)
post #28 of 458/1/12 at 5:38pm
I guess I'm an unjobber too and didn't know it until I found this group! It's cool to see what everyone else is up to to make ends meet. I think my situation is kind of a mish-mash of a lot of the things that other people have already said. Although currently DH is working for a landscaping company pretty regularly, but apparently that might slow down in the fall.
We've been "professional" students for about the last three years, while I've had a part time home based online gig through Lionbridge. I'va also been blogging, but I haven't monetized it. I don't really even have too many views outside of my friends and family that look at it, which is fine because that's pretty much why I started it, but having the extra money would be nice...
Mostly we do a lot of penny pinching around here. We just moved to a place that is a bit more pricey than where we were since DH had a better job and everything (before we knew that it might not be as steady as we had originally thought). So I've been getting way more into the money saving house wife mode. I don't really think that a full time job for DH is really right for our family either. We're unjobbers at heart and we've been talking more and more about things that we can do that are homebased where we could support ourselves and be available for our kids.post #29 of 458/1/12 at 5:39pmpost #30 of 458/24/12 at 11:43am
I finally opened up my own online shop, making body and baby care stuff. It's random stuff I make anyway and I'm just gonna keep putting stuff out there and see what sells! The playsilks I've made have already sold out, as has my body butter, yay!! My aunt has offered to help market and make things and I just talked to a friend who wants to get into business too, making food, so we might try something together. It's amazing how motivated you get when friends and family start rallying for you, it also makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know I'm supported! I made a custom knit yoda doll for a friend and her LO is now carrying it everywhere. This is why I love doing this, it might never make as much as a conventional job, but I'm doing something that really means something to others, while staying with my kids, not paying the "big boss", and I'm able to manage my own time! It's a bit overwhelming right now, but will be worth it!
Edited by yippiehippie - 8/28/13 at 3:38pmpost #31 of 459/29/12 at 8:11am
there's a group for people who live like this! WHOAH!
my husband and i are both self-employed. but we're definitely more 'unjobbing', i just didn't know there was a word for it! kinda like i call it 'homeschooling' when we're definitely more unschooling....
i was thinking the other day i couldn't say some things about BUYING stuff on the DDC I'm on b/c i DON'T BUY STUFF unless absolutely necessary. here's how our income works-
my husband is in full-time unsupported ministry, and gets random support from people who believe in what he does. this covers more of our bills this year than it has for the last 4 since we've had no 'real' jobs for income. but we end up pulling in about 40,000 a year between the two of us, which is not much spending money.
i'm a stay-at-home mom of 4 small kids with one on the way. i barter time/internet work/personal assistant work with 2 different farm groups for meat/milk/veggies. and i'm a certified holistic health counselor when i can schedule in clients around homeschooling/farm work/ministry wife. i'm working on charging more consistently for my time health counseling- though how do you get family and friends to pay you for health advice? still working on that one....
thankfully, i'm able to make a lot of things as i'm pretty crafty, but also have a way of finding what we need. housing and food are our highest bills (we're one car right now, in between minivans, but i can walk most places w/ a stroller) and we've been living on miracles and waiting for so long, that it's become second nature. though i confess, access to farm fresh organic meat/veggies/milk/eggs with no need for cash is an amazing blessing.
homebirthing, and have state issued health insurance for medical emergencies, so most things are pretty well covered.
so curious to wander around and see what everyone else does!post #32 of 4510/19/12 at 4:33pm
I've been "unjobbing" for about two years now. I read "Unjobbing" by Micheal Fogler (I also met him in person when volunteering for the peace and justice council in kentucky...he's awesome) when I was about 21. I also read a lot of other books on voluntary simplicity and rethinking the 9 to 5 in my early adulthood, so I've always been seeking this path.
Anyway, recently, I've been writing for content companies (like ehow.com) online. The pay is generally low, but it pays the bills if you live simply and is sooooo flexibile. There is a forum called work place like home that you can google. I've found an endless amount of part time online work on there. Just keep in mind that most of it is low paying unless you have a very impressive skill set.
I've also delved into doing pt customer service jobs from home as well as search engine rating, but I hate both with a passion.
I'm going to college right now to get a bachelor's degree in marketing and also plan on going to massage school in the spring. I'd like my unjobbing life to be a mixture of freelance writing, writing on my own blog, and massage therapy in the next two years. We shall see. :) I might have to get a part time job as a waitress sometime as well, but I'd love the adult interaction since I'm a homeschooling mom too...post #33 of 456/11/13 at 8:17amThread StarterQuote:
Elance.com is a great site for people who want to edit, write for companies, or do design work, as well as virtual assistant type jobs such as running a person's twitter account. I haven't used it myself but have hired several people off of the site and they all like it. I believe it's free as well, to post one's profile :)
This has been my best bet for design work! :) For my person working style, I like to take on lots of smaller jobs instead of one big job at a time. Just my personal preference, the way I work best it seems.post #34 of 458/27/13 at 3:40pm
So excited to find this group! People look at me cross eyed when I say I never want to work for someone and I'm not interested in having kids in public school. We're DIYers all the way! My husband is still at his okay paying job full time while I'm running 3 small businesses - our hope is that the 3 will make enough for him to quit and for us to work together as a family.
I started a parenting blog in 2008 just before my first baby was born (Eco-Babyz). I started because I just wanted to write and find like-minded moms - but in about a year it evolved into a business. It's been growing really slow, but for now it pays for groceries through affiliate commissions, okay maybe just part of them, lol. It's also saved a ton in baby expenses because I got all cloth diapers free, car seats, strollers, etc. We really don't buy anything for the kids!
Then just over a year ago I started a social media management and PR business (Ana B Social) which really took off and brings in a chunk of substantial income, nearly enough to pay for our mortgage. I only have three clients (all baby/kid brands) and desperately looking for more so that my husband would be able to stay home and do the same work. He has a physically exhausting job where people do not respect him because he doesn't like to lie for the company and doesn't suck up to the boss, he hates working there and wants to be with us, to see the kids growing up, to homeschool together and travel.
This summer we finally followed a dream we both had, we started a photography business! I've been an amateur ever since I was a teenager. I've photographed weddings, done portraits, and events for family for more than a decade - all for free. We finally spent an arm and a leg on a professional camera and made a website, looking for clients now (Massachusetts and New Hampshire). It's a competitive field. I personally know a couple of photographers myself, friends. But I have peace about it, the work will come hopefully - we need to pay off that Nikon D800!
PS: Here is the photography website vandaphotography.com
As you ladies know, it isn't easy to unjob and freelance, sometimes you're not sure if you'll have enough to pay next month's bills. Which will be more of a reality for us when my husband quits his job. I'm a little nervous, but I know it is worth it, there is no way I would want all of us living our separate lives - me at work, hubby at work, kids in school, scrambling for time together on the weekend, growing apart by the second because there is really only so much time in a day. I have a really hard time understanding how families that live apart like that daily cope with the sheer absence of quantity time together. We're not able to take expensive vacations or go places much, but I definitely prefer the quantity time and simple moments spent with my family daily.post #35 of 458/29/13 at 6:38amThread Starter
I just saw my post above, and I'm frustrated with Elance at this point...people bidding unrealistically low amounts for jobs (we're talking $4 for a set of wedding invitations, save the date cards, and RSVP cards -- $4!!!!!), Elance not providing designer protection like I expect (and paid - past tense, I've since cancelled - an upgraded membership for). Aside from people just not wanting to pay a reasonable about for design work (I've had ONE client - not through Elance - this month who paid what I considered a reasonable amount for a basic logo), I had an incident where someone had me working, viewed my drafts, then cancelled my Elance job because he said he found someone to work for free instead (ie, he stole my drafts and had a buddy remake them). SO beyond pissed that Elance has no responded to my complaint about this.
AnaB, hi! My boyfriend just made his wedding photo business official, and he hires me as a second shooter/assistant/photo editor/album assembler. I love the work and I'm looking forward to shooting engagements as well (I love doing that, the boyfriend doesn't so much, so it works out). I'm also trying to get into children's photos, maternity, etc. Hard to even give them away with a portfolio that currently consists of concert and alt model photos, but those are things I'm interested in as well even though they don't pay much, if at all. We have a couple D700s between the two of us...that was a tax return investment!
I just started the Career Step medical transcription editor program as well...not as fun as my creative work, but I need some steadier pay. I worked in a health facility (mental health and substance abuse) for almost a year and I can type 120 WPM...so far the class is going well. I'm getting through it as fast as I can...
Also, thanks to my boyfriend introducing me to a childhood friend of his, I'm learning taxidermy... The boyfriend and I collect found skulls and bones and clean them with my dermestid beetle colony, so I guess taxidermy is the next step? Never thought I'd get into something like that, but after learning a bit more he's willing to hire me on to work for him so I can't complain. Apparently I'm pretty good at it so far, and I won't turn down the opportunity to learn something new for free. It also helps supply me with bones that I've been making jewelry out of that the taxidermist would otherwise throw away, so there's another bonus. I need to photograph stuffs and get it up on my Etsy.
August has generally been very disappointing as far as income but as you can see I'm plugging away...post #36 of 459/23/13 at 1:44pm
We decided to chuck it all last year and go for what we really wanted to do, which was sell stuff.
We made the decision and in 30 days we had sold everything that didn't fit into our 20 ft camper and headed south. I am a big fan of flea markets and had always wanted to sell at them but was too scared and had noo idea where to start. Finally decided I wasn't willing to keep struggling doing stuff we hated and off we went.
We did that for a year, then decided to upgrade our equipment so dh has a job temporarily so we can do that and then go back on the road. We've had such a blast with our adventure we have no regrets.
People do look at us funny when we tell them what we do. I always point out that there is no other job that would allow us to leave one show, go to the next and while we await the weekend crowds take our kids and play on the beach all week. This spring we even got a wild hair and took the kids to New Orleans for a week just to enjoy our time together and see some history along the way.post #37 of 451/13/14 at 8:35amRight now DH and I are running a small produce market at the Flea Market on weekends and we are trying to get back into the DJing business soon. We worked for years in poultry processing plants and with that clearly not working for us we are striking out on our own now. We're not making a killing yet, but I'm hopeful.
I do blogging and product testing. I'm hoping to make income from it soon either from advertisers or SOME way. I love doing it and I'd love to be one of those people who love what they do for a living.
My product review blog is at http://TheProduct411.blogspot.com if you'd like to take a look.post #38 of 451/13/14 at 8:49ampost #39 of 451/19/14 at 8:17am
Wow! There is such an amazing mix of ways that everyone is unjobbing here! I love the bartering for farm fresh food, getting all free baby gear, and being able to travel from market to market. This is truly an amazing collection of stories! We should write a book!
When I originally posted, I was living in SD in a tiny apartment by the beach, finishing up my thesis for my masters, and taking care of my newborn. I was living off of student loans and my dh's part-time martial arts training income and bouncing at an upscale bar (yuck!). We have since moved back to CO. Since we didn't have a lot of money, we fit everything we would take with us into my Honda Fit and got rid of the rest. I also mailed a couple of boxes of clothes and books, but it was a major scale down! Interestingly, we were able to procure a whole new set of furniture for cheap and for free! I am not kidding; I found free stuff everywhere. This includes a huge banana leaf ficus tree that someone left on a curb, a futon couch (from a friend), coffee table (friend), book shelf (free on Craigslist. The add said a shelf needed some love, but all it needed was a couple of screws tightened. $120 shelf for free!), and nice recliner chair (friend)! And I am very picky about quality, even if I do snatch something from a dumpster. We are a culture of abundance, and people just want to get rid of their stuff sometimes. This is a boon for the unjobber!
I am still avidly pursuing my unjobbing lifestyle. I teach part-time at a community college, which I love! Right now I teach three classes and work a couple of hours in the writing center. Ideally I will scale that back to two classes, maybe just online so I can cut out the commute. But I do like my in-class time... My dh started a masters program for fiction writing and still teaches martial arts part-time. I have recently delved head-long into radical homemaking. Many of you sound like you already do the like. The first step is certainly unplugging from the system at large, mainly through simplifying, cutting costs, and bartering. The second step is to transition your home to a unit of production rather than consumption. If you haven't read Shannon Hayes's Radical Homemakers, you should check it out. I also just read Saved: How I quit worrying about money and became the richest guy in the world. by Ben Hewitt. We live in an apartment right now, but we will be growing a bunch of food anyway! I also flex my creativity to find low-budget or no-budget solutions to my needs. I also save a grip of money by making my own cleaning products and shampoo. I barter my hair style for massage from a hair friend and will get chickens for eggs as soon as we move this summer. We will be trying to find a house; my mom is coming to live with us. She wants to help with dd... no complaints here!
It is great to share ideas and stories with others who prioritize time over money: time with family, time for self, time for community. This is the back bone for a healthy and happy world. Yay!post #40 of 451/28/14 at 11:27amHaven't been here in quite a long while but I thought to check in today.
I'm currently not working after a mess of a contract change but I've downsized and have a month left before school starts. I'm going for graphic design. I'm going to start working on my photo editing skills as well. I find that I like that nearly as much as taking the photos.
I was able to find a course on Udemy for a Web Developer certification and a coupon code (took it from $100+ to $10!) so I'm plugging away there and on a few others. I saw a job I wanted but you have to bilingual so I'm learning French and Spanish and will add those to my 'resume' next year. I guess this year is shaping up to be a year of developing skills and figuring out directions. Even better that the internet has so many sources that are free or cheap.
Anyway, love to read what everyone is up to. Very encouraging to see how everyone makes their way without working for someone else.
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