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Darth: Congrats on the new home! I hope you have many happy years there.

 

Mrs P: Welcome! I hope you won't be here very long!

 

Mtnlisa: Awesome numbers. Good luck!

 

AFM: I went back to the RE on Monday for bloodwork. My beta had only gone down to 29, but they're no longer worried about an ectopic because my progesterone was back to normal and my estrogen level had halved. My body just stubbornly refuses to let go of a pregnancy, I guess. I go back in on Friday for bloodwork and an u/s.

 

Here's are dilemma, and I need advice: this is our last chance for a while. Our savings are almost gone and we can't afford to keep doing this. Do we have a good chance this month? Or should we wait a cycle and then try again? I had several follicles at my last u/s but they've been "resting" for about two weeks now and we don't know that they're still good. Complicating this decision is the fact I'm now on antibiotics for the next several days for a tooth infection. The RE says this antibiotic shouldn't interfere, but I'm not so sure. What does everyone think?

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rs, if it's you last cycle trying, I might wait one full cycle - just to be sure. "they" say you have increased fertility for 3 months post m/c, I think. glad to hear your body's taking care of things on its own, albeit slowly. good luck with your decision.
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Cananny  *Please move me to taking a break?  When I called in to schedule the HSG test, all the appointments were booked up, so I have to wait until next cycle, so we will not be trying for 2 cycles now...  Frustrating, yes, but it will give our finances a break!

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Nosreves: still so excited for you two.

 

Essenbee: Sorry to hear about your BFN and needing to get the HSG done. On the bright side, my doc says that getting it down can help flush stuff out making conception chances better next cycle around. 

 

MrsPP: I second Lise. It will be nice to see you back in the mix again.

 

Gelly: I'm sorry about your BFN. Please let us know how the 2nd Beta went.

 

Darth: Funny quick story: a couple days ago when you changed your screen name, I thought that I was seeing things. Granted I have been pretty loopy, and somewhat disoriented at times in the past week with my illness but to completely imagine that I was seeing a different name that I would have never made up on my own- it was weird moment for me. It took at least one or two times of me logging in and reading posts to realize that your screenname was actually changed and I wasn't just imagining it. Anyhoo, your description of your new pad sounds divine. I've never been to Vancouver let alone Canada. How is your impression of how Vancouver differs from other major Canadian Cities? Congrats for being in the tww- wouldn't a BFP be a great welcome-to-your-new-home gift!!!

 

Mtnlisa: good luck in the tww!!!!

 

Carmen: Sounds like everything is moving along nicely. To clarify, are you in the tww yet?

 

RS: So in response to your question I have a few questions: Do you have to wait for your Beta number to be at O to insem? I have no idea how that works. I think being on any type of medication can impact your body and how it normally function even if it wouldn't harm the fetus. Another question, is your plan to wait until after the u/s to see the size of the follis. Considering all the things that are going on, I know it's extremely hard to take a break for a month, (I know I hate it- doing it right now), but perhaps you may be feeling better and you may have more info about Beta numbers by next month- which may or not be important- again I have no idea about Beta numbers.Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

 

Cananny: Can you pls move me to "taking a break" -I just noticed I was on the waiting to O list. Glad to hear things are moving along for you.

 

AFM: So I have no idea what cycle day I am-for the past few days I haven't been monitoring any fertile signs bsides the occasional cm watch- mostly bc its hard to miss. Since thursday when I got home from the hospital - I've been pretty much planted on my couch or my bed- my vertigo is coming and going at this point- which is a good sign. If I move around too much, I definitely start to get a headache, somewhat dizzy, and really tired...like a constant "hangover" feeling. Everything I have read online about Labrinthitis says the illness should take it course in a couple of weeks...which somewhat scares me. There is no way I want to miss more work than I have to. For now, I am taking this week off of work...and man is sitting around hard to manage bc I thrive on being productive. To make matters worse, DW has started to get sick too and she is home as well from work. When she is ill, she is particularly crabby and doesn't want to socialize at all, even with me. I get it bc I am not really in the mood to chat either. Once I start my period when I suspect will occur next weekend-we can get on the ttc train again. 

 

Thank you so much for everyone's well wishes. I wish everyone a great rest of the week- the weekend is almost heresmile.gif

 

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NOSREVES!!! I just saw your news! STICK LITTLE BEAN STICK!!! :) :) :)

 

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So so so excited for you and DP!

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rs: I would also choose to wait a cycle. If your chances are limited it's best to have everything that you can control be ideal.

esenbee: ugh that's annoying! But it sounds like there is a positive side too so I hope the wait is restful and free from ttc stress!

invitn: glad to hear you are relaxing...but you and your DP sick at the same time doesn't sound fun!

Afm: going to do our first insem tomorrow afternoon. Still just high on the monitor and no positive opk but I had copious amounts of ewcm yesterday and I think it's close. No ewcm yet today though...which is a bit odd for me. Anyway, we'll insem tomorrow and again Friday or Saturday depending on what the monitor and opk say tomorrow.
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Nos- Again, Congratulations to you and your DP!! I am still so thrilled for you.

 

Carmen- Good luck this cycle. I am hoping that you will have another little one born around the holidays!

 

Rs- I think Carmen makes a good point about waiting. What ever you chose I hope it is exactly right for you and that you have no regrets about it.

 

Invitn- I am sorry you are still not feeling great. I hope you recover quickly.

 

mtn- Good luck in your TWW

 

Darth- Those counts sound awesome!

 

Cananny- I am glad your lining and everything looked good. I dont think any one answered your question about multiple veggies... I just put one on of each kind that I want and then highlight them, press ctrl + c to copy and then ctrl + v to paste. Then continue pressing ctrl + v to paste over and over. One thing is to make sure that the little cursor line that shows where you are typing is next to the other veggies so that they go on the same line and not the next line... does that make sense??? 

 

Granite- Welcome! I am afraid your first post may have gotten lost in the excitement of nos' BFP. Tell us more about your family.

 

Soto- I am so sorry to hear about your BFN and the tears that came with it. That first one was really hard on me too. My fx are crossed for you and your DW for this next cycle so that you wont have to go through that again. How is giving up caffeine going for you? Have you found something that works for you?

 

Gelly- I am so so sorry for your BFN.  hug2.gif

 

AFM- I am 12 DPI. We tested at 10 DPI and it was BFN. I don't *feel* pregnant but I hope that I am. We will test again tonight or in the morning because we have an RE appt. tomorrow afternoon. This will be the first appt. for us with them and it feels a little nerve wracking. I'm not sure it is the right step for us at this point but I feel like if we keep doing what we've been doing we are just gonna keep getting what we've been getting ya know? Any words of advice for questions that I should ask the RE or things that I should look out for?

 

My goodvibes.gifdust.gif to you all!

 

 

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Nos~ OMG!!!!! Congratulations!  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif  energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif   energy.gif  jumpers.gif  broc1.gif  banana.gif  carrot.gif  jumpers.gif  energy.gif Stick little bean stick...

 

 

AFM~ Thanks everyone...it was a BFN. The nurse said that both betas were negative. I think that we will take a break. I want to loose some weight..I'm joining a gym and maybe Weight Watchers as well. I really think if I drop some lbs then maybe I can capture that elusive BFP. Please move me to taking a break.

 

I hope that eveyone else is doing well.

 

Gelly

 

 

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ewcm showed up again tonight, I had a great acupuncture appointment today and we're confirmed for insem tomorrow! thumb.gif

 

darth: I don't think I ever answered you re: the gay family day....do you mean the picnic in the park that is part of pride? I get together periodically with other groups of gay families but it's nothing formal or a set schedule or anything. I actually find it difficult to connect with queer families because we're so busy and so is everyone else!

 

gelly: Sorry hug2.gif I hope a break is helpful for you. Take care!

 

I also didn't have a chance to comment on the telling your parents vs. not telling them discussion. My dad died when I was a kid and my mom died when I was 32. DP's dad died when she was 25 and her mom passed away in 2007. So, we have no parents to tell unfortunately. My mom would have been SO fricken happy about DD. My brother has 2 girls and a boy and they were the lights of her life for sure. I was very, very close to my mom and not being able to share this journey with her has been very difficult for me - it's almost surreal to me that DD will never know her. DP's mom would have been thrilled too but maybe a bit more cautious...she definitely welcomed me and treated me like one of the family but outwardly she wasn't ready to admit to anyone else that we were a "couple." Everyone else in both our extended families have been awesome and loving and we feel so fortunate for that.

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Thread Starter 

Hey everyone...

 

Gelly.. I am so sorry to hear this was a BFN :( big hugs

 

Esenbee.. sorry you have to take a small break.. hope to see you back on board very soon!!!

 

Carmen..yay for moving towards the TWW.. 

 

Hopeful.. Im hoping to see a BFP in the next day or so from you.. :) 

 

Sorry if Ive missed anyone..

 

Is everyone moved now?

 


AFM.. sorry ive been lagging on my upkeep.. its been a long busy week.. My older nanny kids are on spring break so we have been running all over the place... add to being at the lab at 7 am and work 10-12 hrs.. Im a bit tired!

Im on day 3 of injectables.. and going ok.. getting used to giving myself shots and no real side effects or moodiness  * dp is happy* go in Fri for U/s and Monday for U/S and possible insem Tuesday... 

 

Hope everyone is well...

 

PS>. Nores I saw the FANTASTIC beta # on the queer parenting board... WOHOO.... can i move you to graduates.. can I .. please:)

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So yesterday, I started a light period, my midwife called in a prescription for Clomid (my first), and I finally did a serious check for risks. Turns out that a large study from 2009 shows a 67 percent increase in the most common type of ovarian cancer, called serous ovarian cancer. I read the actual study, which is free online at http://www.bmj.com/highwire/filestream/366862/field_highwire_article_pdf/0.pdf. In a New York Times story, the author said it could be chance, but someone from the National Cancer Institute said she was surprised the author downplayed the risk. The NYT headline proclaims "not linked" but that refers to the other meds and other types of ovarian cancer in the study, not to Clomid and this specific type of cancer. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/health/research/06cancer.html

 

If I'm going to take it, I have to start soon. Did anyone else look into the risks, and what are your thoughts?

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So yesterday, I started a light period, my midwife called in a prescription for Clomid (my first), and I finally did a serious check for risks. Turns out that a large study from 2009 shows a 67 percent increase in the most common type of ovarian cancer, called serous ovarian cancer. I read the actual study, which is free online at http://www.bmj.com/highwire/filestream/366862/field_highwire_article_pdf/0.pdf. In a New York Times story, the author said it could be chance, but someone from the National Cancer Institute said she was surprised the author downplayed the risk. The NYT headline proclaims "not linked" but that refers to the other meds and other types of ovarian cancer in the study, not to Clomid and this specific type of cancer. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/health/research/06cancer.html

 

If I'm going to take it, I have to start soon. Did anyone else look into the risks, and what are your thoughts?


I have done a bit of reading. My acupuncturist is the one that first pointed out to me that it can be linked to cancer. It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant to take it. I will if it's necessary but I would limit it to a low dose and not for more than 2-3 tries. Other studies say the risk is low but there seems to be more research coming out that makes the risk more real. Sorry, I can't point to any of the research - it's more what I've been told. My feeling is that I take risks with so many things already that this one hasn't been necessary for me to take at this point. However, I am considering it next cycle if this doesn't work out....It's a hard decision.

 

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Outdoorsy, I haven't read the study, though I will now. In the meantime, what my doctor told me is that there is a higher incidence of ovarian cancer among women who take clomid, but some of that is likely due to the fact that women who are taking it are often dealing with infertility. Not giving birth to children also raises your risk of ovarian cancer apparently, and a significant percentage of women who take clomid for infertility don't ever get pregnant, and thus are at a higher risk anyway. Plus, those being treated for infertility (versus those doing it to better time insems) often use higher doses, again increasing the risk. Does that make sense? I haven't read the article yet, so perhaps it contradicts all of this. My take away from the doctor was that there is a small risk, but not a huge one. I will be taking clomid this next cycle for the first time, so I'm a bit nervous, but also ready to be pregnant.

 

Cananny, Thinking about you! Man, I hope this is it!

 

Carmen, Go EWCM!!! (Pre-ttc, would you ever have imagined getting excited about cervical mucous?!?)

 

Gelly, I'm really sorry about your BFN. I hope that your break is restorative and healthy.

 

Essenbee, Good luck with the end of your semester! I hope you have lots to keep you busy, and that the next month flies by.

 

Hopeful, Fingers crossed for you!

 

Invitin, I hope you're feeling better. Exciting to be heading back to the TTC train!

 

Nos, How are you feeling?

 

Soto, How's the caffeine detox going? I thought of you last weekend when, in the middle of WAY TOO MUCH family drama with my mother, I snuck away with my sister and drank a little bit of her coffee. Oops.:)

 

I'm sorry, I know I'm missing lots of people.

 

AFM, I have never been so impatient to get my period! I predict AF will arrive anytime between Friday and Monday, and then we can get started! I have clomid sitting on my dresser, a syringe full of Ovidrel in my fridge, and three vials of our new donor are flying across the country as we speak (type?). We have switched donors a bunch over the past few months (first there was the problem with DD's donor, then the problem with the donor we chose last cycle), so it feels like kind of a commitment to have three vials of the same one! But I'm tired of paying for shipping, so hopefully this one will work out. We already owned three vials, so that's how we chose that number.

 

In other news, we are at the absolutely crazy of the semester here, which means that I should be working, not MDC-ing, but I wanted to pop in and say hi. Happy Thursday!

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Granite Welcome.gifTell us more about yourself. 

 

Cananny-I'm glad you're doing ok with the injections and testing.  Can't wait to hear how many beautiful follicles you have.  Hang in there!

 

invitn- I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.  I hope you recover soon and are feeling good.

 

Good luck to everyone in the TWW!

 

Carmen - It sounds like things are moving along smoothly for you.  Here's to an awesome insem!

 

Angela - I hope Aunt Flo shows up soon so you can gear up for the new cycle.

 

AFM - It's always crazy how in this process you wait and wait and nothing happens and then something happens and you switch in to crazy, get-it-done-now mode.  I took an OPK last night and I got a smiley face.  It was only day 11, so it seemed early and I wasn't having the fertile signs of CM or cervical position, etc.  My cervix was high but not all the way open.  I looked at the stick and there wasn't a line but there was kind of a smear.  I know you're not supposed to look at the stick with the digital test, but I usually see a line.  I took another OPK 4 hours later and it was negative.  I took one this morning and it was negative.  In the past when I've taken a second test after a positive, it stayed positive.  Later this morning I went in for my follicle scan.  I had 6 or 7 follicles on the right side and nothing much on the left side.  (I'm also pretty sure I saw my neighbors there.  It seems they are having another baby.)  3 of the follicles were around 20.  The nurse said I might have had a short surge that didn't make me ovulate because it didn't look like I ovulated and those follicles looked good.  She was excited that this was the best response I've had on the Clomid.  She asked if I did anything different this time, and I didn't really.  I started taking royal jelly, but that's it.  She told me how my wife can give me the HCG shot and scheduled an insem for Saturday morning.  My midwife who does the at home IUI's is out of town until Saturday evening so this all works out well so we can have her come over in the evening for IUI #2.  My wife and I were both nervous when I got that smiley face, but we feel a lot better knowing what we know now.  The nurse is also going to put in my progesterone prescription so I can start that on Sunday.  She is giving me a little extra because I'm going to Ohio the last week of April and I will come back on a Sunday around the time I could be testing.  Here we go! 

Has anyone else had weird OPK's that seemed like false positives?  If I missed you in my personals, "Hello"!  I hope you're all doing well.

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You sound all set up, Angela! Hurry up AF!

 

pokey, wow, it's a good thing you had the scan. That would have been so disappointing! I would have been furious at the smiley face lol Good luck!

 

 

Afm: KD on his way over right now! Peak on the monitor this morning and a positive opk at lunchtime. We'll try again tomorrow and I think I'll likely O tomorrow so that should be perfect timing :)

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Pokey- One time I had an OPK that seemed like it was positive a lot earlier than it should have been and the time period of it being positive was really short like you are describing, which is also odd for me. From what I remember my other signs started matching up about 48 hours later. Good luck to you this weekend!

 

Angela- It looks like we will be cycle buddies this next go around. I am expecting AF between tomorrow and Sunday. 

 

Outdoorsy- What Angela explained about the risks associated with Clomid seem to make sense to me as does what Carmen and you have said. I briefly looked at the first study you posted and it is interesting to me how they say in several places that there is no associated link between fertility drugs and ovarian cancer but then in just one place it mentions the 67% increase. I hope you are able to find more research to find something you are comfortable with. If it was me I think I would take it short term but really evaluate the pros and cons if it wasn't working after a couple of cycles.

 

Cananny- I hope all this running around you've been doing this week brings you good results!

 

Gelly- I am so sorry it didn't work for you this time. grouphug.gif

 

Carmen- fingersx.gif

 

AFM- Could you move me to waiting to O? I haven't started just yet but am starting to spot a little and had another BFN this morning... We have our RE appt in about an hour and I am excited for it. I think it will be nice to get a plan in place that works for both DW and I.

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Nos: AWESOME!!! Congratulations, little Belgium baby.

 

Risks of cancer and fertility drugs? The jury is still out in my opinion. The potential might be there but the hard evidence still is not. But something like Clomid I think has far fewer risks than the injectibles and the use of injectibles over a long period of time. Three months of Clomid, the risk is probably minimal. Five cycles of heavy duty injectibles, you might want to think about it.

 

Look up the risk associated with being pregnant and cancer. In some women, the hormones related to pregnancy kick off cancer cells. So are you going to stop trying to have a baby?

 

I think the better question is how quickly are women getting pushed into (or pushing their doctors to prescribe them) stim meds because they aren't getting pregnant "fast enough." We are in a "I want it and I want it now" society and I think this causes us to be impatient. Of course, if you start the game later in life, that doesn't help.

 

And just to note, if you're over 35 Clomid nor Femara has shown to increase your success rate in getting pregnant. Go figure.

 

Sorry for the drive by. Have to run.

 

Krista

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Krista, Hi! I've never heard that clomid doesn't increase chances of pregnancy if you're over 35. Do you have a study or research you can share? That is a bit of a game-changer, potentially.
Hope all is well with you.
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OMG MISSY!!!!!!! YAY!!!! I KNEW IT!!!!! I AM SOOO SUPER EXCITED FOR YOU AND DP!!!!!! I HAVEN'T BEEN CHECKING IN WHILE DW AND I WERE MAKING A NEW PLAN AND WHEN I COME BACK LOOK WHAT I SEE?!? A BFP!!! EEEEKKK!!!!

 

Ok I'm done being a sappy dork lol

 

 

AFU-we have found a new donor! We are on CD4. DW has a really good feeling about the new guy better than she has ever had before....being a cop her gut feeling is pretty much gold to her so we shall see....

 

 

 

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Hi all! I'm absolutely bagged from painting, so no personals tonight, despite getting caught up on everyone's going-ons!! smile.gif good luck to everyone in your waiting or injecting or whatever you're doing!!

So our new place is so awesome, I'm so excited to be done with the painting and everything... We picked good paint that can be washed and scrubbed, with the knowledge that kids like their wall art no matter what you do. We've full on taken to calling the 2nd bedroom the baby's room, we even painted it in gender neutral soft grey of the rest of the house. I think it's hilarious because I doubt the baby will sleep there much anyways. No baby yet though, since we're only a few days I to our tww...

Vancouver is awesome, although comparing it to other Canadian cities is like asking to compare Seattle with the rest of the US.... Vancouver and Seattle share more in common than anywhere else. Except maybe Victoria. A bunch if coffee obsessed, yoga wearing hippies we are... Modern hippies. And in Vancouver, very very broke but well dressed hippies! Ha!

Peace out, I'm up again early for day 3 of painting!! And then we rip out the yucky carpet and install lovely laminate flooring so our future children can't throw up on it. smile.gif
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