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I know it's not April yet for 3 hours and 15 minutes but I wanted to be the thread starter! orngbiggrin.gif

 

Happy April Fool's Day! Is anyone going to Fool anyone? I am horrible at that...I can only think of cruel things hide.gif

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Happy April! joy.gif

 

No April fooling around here! I abhor practical jokes. orngtongue.gif

 

Just a slow, rainy Sunday morning.

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Hi ladies :)

 

I'm new to this part of the board and to Pagan concepts in general. I thought I'd join in the convo, if you don't mind a total newbie who might ask lots of questions :)

 

As for April Fool's Day, I posted a picture of a positive pregnancy test on my Facebook. My husband had a vasectomy so I'm definitely not pregnant. Only one person has been smart enough to tell people to be careful that it IS April Fool's Day :)

 

If anyone has any resources for a beginner I'd also appreciate them. I feel drawn towards Celtic Paganism (though what part I'm not sure,) but right now I'm just trying to be open up to anything and everything I can learn about.

post #5 of 201

Good morning and Happy April!

 

Welcome to the group, Mommy2Austin!

 

I'm not much for doing practical jokes, though I do find them funny, I must admit.

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I'm Mary, mama to 3 home/unschooled kidlets in middle Indiana.

(Kinda like middle Earth...sounds much less boring than central Indiana ;) )

 

I'm Pagan-ish -- meaning that it resonates with me but I am not into any particular path or anything ceremonial. 

 

Yarn is my religion, apparently. orngbiggrin.gif

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yay! April! and i get to start it off sick. bleh. the bronchitis is almost gone but it feels yucky. finally got the taxes done so i can pay the midwife. now i got to plan DD1's bday party. her birthday is the 17th. i just started my 3rd trimester and gotta finish getting everything together for my homebirth. 

 

i am unitarian universalist. the lable suits me better esp. when i tell people i am pagan they think things other than what i really am. i am def pagan. but my concept is different from the general pop's concept. and the label UU covers it all anyway. my kids call me a witch. and i like that bc most of my energy work revolves around food and :stirring: in the love or using it for medicine. i just encourage them not to call me that in front of people bc they get the wrong idea. 

 

no church for me today though. too bad, i heard i was supposed to be helping the kids with an april fools thing. it sounded like fun. but i am recovering from the yuck and need to clean my house. i dont want to spread any of this around. DH went fishing this morning. he has the yuck too. i hope he doesnt get his friends sick. 

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Originally Posted by LionessMom View Post

yay! April! and i get to start it off sick. bleh. the bronchitis is almost gone but it feels yucky. finally got the taxes done so i can pay the midwife. now i got to plan DD1's bday party. her birthday is the 17th. i just started my 3rd trimester and gotta finish getting everything together for my homebirth. 

 

i am unitarian universalist. the lable suits me better esp. when i tell people i am pagan they think things other than what i really am. i am def pagan. but my concept is different from the general pop's concept. and the label UU covers it all anyway. my kids call me a witch. and i like that bc most of my energy work revolves around food and :stirring: in the love or using it for medicine. i just encourage them not to call me that in front of people bc they get the wrong idea. 

 

no church for me today though. too bad, i heard i was supposed to be helping the kids with an april fools thing. it sounded like fun. but i am recovering from the yuck and need to clean my house. i dont want to spread any of this around. DH went fishing this morning. he has the yuck too. i hope he doesnt get his friends sick. 



I hope you feel better soon! We seem to keep passing things around here in a circle. Every few weeks we all get struck again. Its no fun!

 

I've been looking at UU, but I'm a little confused on how the dynamic works. I do think the label is nice to keep people from making the wrong assumption. Plus I would enjoy a community like that where people can all be full of faith no matter their religion.

 

Maybe a strange question for ya'll:

 

I've always felt I was born in the wrong time. Like I should have been born centuries earlier. Has any one else ever felt like that? It's always served as a source of issue for me. Like I've a life made of "wrong place, wrong time."

 

post #9 of 201

Welcome, Mommy2Austin!

 

Hoping that it starts to get mild now that April is here.  We had a period of hot weather, then chilly.  Now I just want temps in the 60's, please.  (up to 72 is fine.)

 

There's a terrible burning smell coming from my car.  Have to bring it to the mechanic on Monday...Although I don't know if I'll be able to get it fixed.

Now that Spring is here, I plan to ramp up my home business.  I really need some 'extra' money!

post #10 of 201
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Originally Posted by Mommy2Austin View PostHi ladies :)

 

I'm new to this part of the board and to Pagan concepts in general. I thought I'd join in the convo, if you don't mind a total newbie who might ask lots of questions :)



Hi and welcome! Questions are a good thing. We can tend to be very chatty, and not always about Pagany things, so ask away orngbiggrin.gif and thank you, btw, for capitalizing "Pagan"-- it's a pet peeve of mine that now that we're a legit religion (or group of, as it were) we are still not deserving of a capital letter, even amongst our own!


I am Maiasaura, single mama to one 11yo ds. We live in NC but are trying to sell the house praying.gif so we can move to MA, where my true love lives luxlove.gif In October '09, he and I got back together after 35 years apart. We went steady in high school. Twice. Now it's permanent heartbeat.gif but we're 800+ miles apart mecry.gif

 

DS has off of school this week for Spring break. I wanted to go to church this morning but I'm being supremely lazy.

I'm Pagan. Wiccan specifically, Witch for sure. We used to belong and go quite a bit to the UU, but then I got curious about Catholicism because my boyfriend's Catholic, so we started going to classes there to learn about it, but it's not really resonating-- I grew up Episcopalian so it wasn't far off from what I knew, but I can't get past the One-God-my-way-is-the-highway thing. I'm trying to reconcile them all, because I love being a Witch, and I do see the beauty of Christianity, but so far it's not working very well shrug.gif so I kind of do both. Or all three.

Our UU is very, very accommodating of all faiths or no faith, but-- gawd, this sounds so elitist or something-- I am so over crunchiness and social justice and hippies, even old ones. I don't think I want to be ignorantly mainstream, either...I don't know what I want. I want to be in the middle somewhere.

 

Lioness, I hope you feel better!
 

 

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Thanks for starting a new thread, Maiasaura!  

 

Mommy2Austin, if you're interested in a Celtic path, you might want to check out some of Erynn Laurie's works... 

 

LionessMom, hope you feel better soon! So excited for your LO's birthday party and your upcoming homebirth!  I would like to hear more about UU stuff also.  (I'm sort of in the opposite position from Maisaura -- we're stuck in a very conservative suburb b/c we're taking care of my mom.  I would like to meet MORE crunchy, hippie, SJ types around here!!)

 

Gotta go, A is miserable from teething.  Sophie the Giraffe to the rescue!  

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Originally Posted by glassesgirlnj View Post (I'm sort of in the opposite position from Maisaura -- we're stuck in a very conservative suburb b/c we're taking care of my mom.  I would like to meet MORE crunchy, hippie, SJ types around here!!)


Well, I've been here for 8 years, and I moved here from a place where nobody breastfed past 6 months, and it was just unheard of to cloth diaper ("WHY would you do that?") let alone wear the baby, all of which I did rather instinctually and didn't know there was a name for. But I didn't realize there are extremists on all sides of the spectrum, and even the hippies can get dogmatic and rigid, and I'm just...I am back to the middle of the road. I want everybody to accept everyone's path for what it is, y'know?

Now-- that is not to say I don't believe in enlightenment or education. I do. Hugely. I am a huge lactivist and intactivist and I will go on and on about those...but I try not to be "holier than thou" about it. I don't freak or act condescending when I see a formula feeding mom (though I am still trying to wangle a way to ask politely!).

 

But at my UU church, everybody's old and white and rich and they do lots of social justicey things-- which is lovely, really, Habitat Houses or tsunami rescue or Katrina-- they're all on the front lines. And nobody really lords it over anybody. They do act humble about it. But it just seems...over the top, to me. It's like...go LIVE LIFE or something, I dunno. It's like...I'd love to have that kind of money and time, but when you're a single mama working hard to raise a high-needs boy and getting by, it *seems* very unhumble, and it grates on one.

 

I just want to live in a more...I dunno...I mean, a place can get so diverse it's homogeneous, does that make any sense at all?

post #13 of 201
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> there are extremists on all sides of the spectrum, and even the hippies can get dogmatic and rigid,

 

I TOTALLY know what you mean!  That was my experience visiting the Bay Area (though I also know some lovely people who live out there). 

 

> I don't freak or act condescending when I see a formula feeding mom (though I am still trying to wangle a way to ask politely!).

 

Well, you're talking to a formula feeding mom right now :)  -- when I tried EBF, my daughter ended up back in the hospital with dehydration and jaundice.  But I did hire two lactation consultants and a postpartum doula (who called my daughter "very, very willful") before going over to formula entirely...

I'm assuming you were referring to the people who don't even TRY to BF!!

 

> at my UU church, everybody's old and white and rich and they do lots of social justicey things-- which is lovely, really, Habitat Houses or tsunami rescue or Katrina-- they're all on the front lines. And nobody really lords it over anybody. They do act humble about it. But it just seems...over the top, to me. It's like...go LIVE LIFE or something, I dunno. It's like...I'd love to have that kind of money and time, but when you're a single mama working hard to raise a high-needs boy and getting by, it *seems* very unhumble, and it grates on one.

 

Yeah, those class distinctions make a lot of sense.  

I also live in a place where our household income is WAY below the average for our township, so again, I know what you mean. 

 

You're reminding me of the people in Park Slope, Brooklyn (not where I live) who join the food co-op so they can preach the virtues of organic, local, etc., but then they order their nannies to fulfill their co-op work shifts for them!!  ROTFLMAO.gif Talk about the point flying right over your head.

 

 

In other news, Osiris (our ghost boa) just had a lovely shed, including his eyecaps.  He's a little cranky now, but that should change once he gets a meal in him... 

Hope you folks enjoy the rest of your day! 

 


 

 

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I wish I could get into UU, just for the sake of the Religious Education. But the few times my DH and I have gone, we just feel, well, bored. The people seem nice enough, and we believe in the values and the social justice (though honestly, I'm not an action person. I'll happily write checks to orgs when I can, but...). We just can't get into the services, though. I need more formalized ritual, and DH just wants to go in the woods and meditate.

 

DD was asking about Easter yesterday since we went on an Easter egg hunt. I explained to her it's how some people celebrate Spring, like we celebrate Ostara and others celebrate Passover. I'll have to be sure to read "Looking for Easter" to her again this week, but eventually I do want her to know what Christian beliefs are, as it is part of her heritage, and I strongly feel she should be culturally literate.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Looking-Easter-Dori-Chaconas/dp/0807547506/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333309264&sr=1-1

 

 

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Hi and welcome! Questions are a good thing. We can tend to be very chatty, and not always about Pagany things, so ask away orngbiggrin.gif and thank you, btw, for capitalizing "Pagan"-- it's a pet peeve of mine that now that we're a legit religion (or group of, as it were) we are still not deserving of a capital letter, even amongst our own!


I am Maiasaura, single mama to one 11yo ds. We live in NC but are trying to sell the house praying.gifso we can move to MA, where my true love lives luxlove.gif In October '09, he and I got back together after 35 years apart. We went steady in high school. Twice. Now it's permanent heartbeat.gif but we're 800+ miles apart mecry.gif

 

DS has off of school this week for Spring break. I wanted to go to church this morning but I'm being supremely lazy.

I'm Pagan. Wiccan specifically, Witch for sure. We used to belong and go quite a bit to the UU, but then I got curious about Catholicism because my boyfriend's Catholic, so we started going to classes there to learn about it, but it's not really resonating-- I grew up Episcopalian so it wasn't far off from what I knew, but I can't get past the One-God-my-way-is-the-highway thing. I'm trying to reconcile them all, because I love being a Witch, and I do see the beauty of Christianity, but so far it's not working very well shrug.gif so I kind of do both. Or all three.

Our UU is very, very accommodating of all faiths or no faith, but-- gawd, this sounds so elitist or something-- I am so over crunchiness and social justice and hippies, even old ones. I don't think I want to be ignorantly mainstream, either...I don't know what I want. I want to be in the middle somewhere.

 

Lioness, I hope you feel better!
 

 


For me it's instinctual to write a religion with a capital letter :) 

 

I really resonate with the bolded part. Its not the One God part I have issue with its the one way to God and the billions of different interpretations for the "rules" that I find exhaustive and sometimes grating. 

 

It also doesn't resonate for me that there is no female deity. For a long time I wondered why I felt like something didn't add up. If we are made in God's image, then why does it take two to make one? Wouldn't we then just be assexual and multiply like cells?

 

I dunno. I feel like Love is at the center of everything. Love creates. The love of two people creates more love. The love of a parent and child creates more love. The love of friends creates more love. 

 

At this point in my post I'm not sure where I'm going with this LOL I'm just laying things out as I think them.

 

DH and I both came from Christian backgrounds. His was more strict than mine. We've both just been burnt too many times and had way too many questions go unanswered. He's aware that I'm looking at other religions to find one that resonates for me. I feel the need to have somewhere to put my faith. Because its there. I can't NOT believe in something higher. I can't imagine that this is all we're meant for and it will mean nothing in the end. I just need to find my own way.

 


Edited by Mommy2Austin - 4/1/12 at 2:58pm
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yay! april thread. thanks for starting this thread and linking from the old one.

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HOORAY FOR APRIL!!! joy.gif

 

Maia, I didn't get to say this on the last thread but I am SOO excited for M's new job.  I hope that it helps to bring him steps closer to feeling at peace.  

 

WELCOME Mommy2Austin!  wave.gif  I definitely classify myself as Pagan...with a little Buddhist flair...

 

DoK: I had a weird burning smell come from my car a few years ago and it turned out to be a plastic bag that got stuck underneath and melted.  It stunk for a while but finally went away - I hope that it's the same for you!!! Car repairs are just the worst.  Grr!  

 


Lioness: How are you feeling, pregnancy-wise these days?  I cannot believe you are in your 3rd Trimester already.  How did that happen?! Of course, I'm sitting here UNpregnant so I'm sure it feels a lot different to you, the one who is growing the wee-one. haha!! 

 


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Yarn is my religion, apparently. orngbiggrin.gif

awesome. 
 

 



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But I didn't realize there are extremists on all sides of the spectrum, and even the hippies can get dogmatic and rigid, and I'm just...I am back to the middle of the road. I want everybody to accept everyone's path for what it is, y'know?

 

I actually had a similar convo with DH.  I said something along the lines of being extremely liberal can be as confining as being extremely conservative.  
 

 

glassesgirl: I also FF after 2 months of trying to EBF.  I wanted to BF badly but it was not a good fit for us (we had similar issues with jaundice, loss of weight, etc).  I knew I had to do what felt best for myself and Z.  "Willful" describes Z to a T. haha.  I also like to call her determined and persistent.  Since the minute she was born.  She's a Taurus, though.  Luckily, I grew up with a Taurus dad and sister so I have some experience. winky.gif As well as a special place in my heart for Tauruses.  

 

 

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I wish I could get into UU, just for the sake of the Religious Education. But the few times my DH and I have gone, we just feel, well, bored. The people seem nice enough, and we believe in the values and the social justice (though honestly, I'm not an action person. I'll happily write checks to orgs when I can, but...). We just can't get into the services, though. I need more formalized ritual, and DH just wants to go in the woods and meditate.

 

DD was asking about Easter yesterday since we went on an Easter egg hunt. I explained to her it's how some people celebrate Spring, like we celebrate Ostara and others celebrate Passover. I'll have to be sure to read "Looking for Easter" to her again this week, but eventually I do want her to know what Christian beliefs are, as it is part of her heritage, and I strongly feel she should be culturally literate.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Looking-Easter-Dori-Chaconas/dp/0807547506/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333309264&sr=1-1

 

 

Love this book, witchy!  Thank you!!  We were just talking about how we celebrate Easter as a celebration of the fertility of the Earth so this is just perfection!  Your DH sounds like mine.  His idea of "going to church" is a hike through the woods.  

 

I also wish that I could feel the UU - but anything that organized freaks me out.  Probably a little "gun shy" from all the politic-clique-y crap that went on in our church growing up.  I like being a solitary over here right now.  

 

 

 

post #18 of 201

treehugger.gif  for April's thread!

 

And welcome Mommy2Austin!! And I love your insights on how everything is manifested out of love! It rings quite true with me. Good luck on researching the celtic Pagan path, it sounds like fun!

 

 

DOK - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you that it's a simple issue such as a trapped plastic bag

 

LM - I have been away from the group too long, if you're in your 3rd trimester already!  Here's to some easy vibes and some restful healing

 

Maia - please tell M congrats on the new job! I saw that as I was trying to catch up on March's thread, oh I am so behind on so much!

 

Witchy - good luck with the diet and I hope it's working!!!

 

Like I said before - I'm feeling so behind, thank you Merc retrograde!!  I haven't finished my TM, I just started plotting out my garden and I've barely squeeked by studying since I decided to take the plunge and dedicate the next year & 1day for studying my path.    Is anyone else feeling just out of sorts, constantly running, but making no progress?

 

Oh and I decided to buy a sewing machine and learn to sew - in what spare time I do not know, but it was in an effort to stop DH from buying the kids more jeans since all their knees are worn out and need patching.  I think I'm going crazy?? dizzy.gif

post #19 of 201

Happy April, all you Fools!  Here's a lovely female tarot Fool - I'd wish to be her for a day.


I don't tease or trick anyone on April Fools Day, but I love to meditate on tarot images of the Fool.

 

Mary3mama - I love "Middle Indiana" and, even more, "yarn is my religion"

 

Welcome, Mommy2Austin!

 

Maia (from last month) I have coconut oil in my coffee or tea every morning, with a bit of orange stevia or honey.  Yum.  Never tried butter.

post #20 of 201

I'm going a little crazy. I've decided to trying water-only washes for my hair. I tried conditioner only a year ago and had some nice results, but it soon stopped working as nice so i went back to shampoo and conditioner (which means washing every single day and it still looking crummy... blah) here's hoping for good results (though I know it'll have a big adjustment period)

 

Still researching and enjoying learning about the many faces in Paganism as well as about my culture (Largely Scotch-Irish, with a little Jewish mixed in :) ) 

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