or Connect
Mothering › Groups › August 2012 Birth Club › Discussions › Weekly Chat Thread April 9th

Weekly Chat Thread April 9th - Page 3

post #41 of 73

I feel you on the second sneeze...happened to me in the store the other night and B just giggled when I told him.  That is right, I said giggled.  

 

I was really excited because B got to feel the baby move when I met him up here in NC.  So, yeah, I'm in NC now and I really like the house and the town.  It has also been easier than I thought it would be to work from home.  The only sad part is that two days after I got here, my kitten went missing.  B and the 'girls' have been up here for 3 weeks, so she has been in and out of the house the whole time.  But the other night, I know she was in bed with us, and B said she went outside very early. When he got back from the gym, Lulu is usually waiting to greet him, but she wasn't that morning.  I went out throughout the day looking for her, but no sign, so B made posters at work.  We went and hung them on all the telephone poles and neighbors doors, talking to some of them, and then we hung some downtown at the animal hospital and some of the shops. She has been gone for two days now and I'm pretty sad about it.  I'm hoping she was just feeling a bit adventurous and that she'll be back soon. B says she is grounded whenever she comes home... Now I get all worried if I don't see Boxxy around the house. 

 

post #42 of 73

VV sorry about your kitty.

 

LOVE the Bradley Method.  However, the one thing I dont like is they dont talk enough about following intuition and moving around when you feel like moving.  But the relaxation during labor, I think, is the key ot less pain.  No doubt, labor hurts.  But when you fight the pain it hurts worth.  Glad your DH liked the class.

 

Glad I didnt offend anyone.  Thank you! 

 

 

post #43 of 73

 

VV: Glad to hear that you’re settling in…but really sad to hear about your kitty. I hope she shows up.

Ithappened: I don’t know how you do it, seriously. I sit at a desk for a lot of my day and am wiped by the time I get home J

LeAnn: I’ve heard the BH can def be tied to your bladder (too full, just emptying, etc). Our tech specifically said that emptying your bladder can bring one on.

 

Thanks to everyone for the personal space sympathy. I know they’re just excited and I need to try to remember that more.

 

Eleuthia, congrats on your boy!

Andaluza, I’m intrigued by the stethoscope idea. I managed to not buy a Doppler…and now that I’m feeling pretty consistent movement, I’m not feeling as anxious. But the stethoscope seems like a great way to hear the hb in between visits now that baby is bigger. I was also surprised to hear that your OB wants to do weekly non stress tests for ama. I think, as others have said, that you should do what you feel comfortable with.

Yuck about the heartburn, LilyT. Hoping you find a solution soon.

Sheaffer, can you make a game time decision on Phish? How would you feel about being in labor in the car? I personally am not sure that I would feel comfortable but this is my first pregnancy and I have no idea what to expect.

Intime, I definitely plan to check out the Brewer info. I really love Nina Planck’s pregnancy diet book and I first read about it in there. Hoping to get back on track once our kitchen is back in business. I feel like I’ve been pretty good (not a lot of take out) but look forward to cooking normally again and being able to better manage what I’m eating.

 

Glad that today is Thursday, I really feel like this week has been dragging a**. :P Hopefully our cabinets will be in today and our range will be hooked up when I get home. I LOVE how things are turning out but am obviously just wanting it to be done! luckily our contractor and crew are awesome. Last night, I was watching the baby kick me and could see it on the outside. Hus is not convinced though because he misses it every time J I guess I have the added advantage of being able to feel it at the same time.

 

Hope everyone’s week is wrapping up nicely. Catching up on these threads is tough when you’re not on for a day or two! Sorry to anyone I missed. 

 

colleen

post #44 of 73

Waffler, I had my doc try with a stethoscope at my 23 week appointment and she couldn't hear anything (my sister is a nursing student, so I wanted to see if she would be able to hear it).  My doc said it would take a few more weeks.  I don't have anything in the way (placenta or whatever), so I assume it would be the same for most people.  Just a thought.  I do love the idea of a non-doppler way to hear baby though.

post #45 of 73
Just wanted to chime in and say, vv, don't ever give up hope. I had a cat that went missing for about four or five months and just assumed the worst..I was up late making some food and he jumped up on the window sill just like he always did to be let in...freaked me the heck out! It had been so long. He had lost a lot of weight but, was otherwise a-ok. We couldn't believe it!
post #46 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by LilyTiger View Post

Waffler, I had my doc try with a stethoscope at my 23 week appointment and she couldn't hear anything (my sister is a nursing student, so I wanted to see if she would be able to hear it).  My doc said it would take a few more weeks.  I don't have anything in the way (placenta or whatever), so I assume it would be the same for most people.  Just a thought.  I do love the idea of a non-doppler way to hear baby though.


Good to know! I also have a silly anterior placenta, so even less chance at this point for me. 

 

post #47 of 73

I got the fetoscope in the mail today (thanks to free Amazon prime shipping for the Amazon mom trial!). It was $20.00. I went for it instead of the stethoscope because I did some reading here on the boards about both and decided the fetoscope was the way to go. It has a plastic horn that you can move (not the metal disk of the stethoscope) and then a place to grip or to place your forehead, which apparently helps to transfer the sound. I just used my hand on the grip, since bending my head close enough is impossible; I'll have dh try the head position tonight. I knew where the doc had heard the heartbeat on the doppler on Tuesday, when she said it was the actual heart and not the echo. But first I listened for my own heart to see what the big organ sounded like before I searched for the baby's. I found it after a little bit. It's hard to describe, not at all like on the doctor's doppler, more like a very fast watch ticking but not the same tone, obviously. You can also hear other body sounds and when I was pressing here and there to find the heart, he gave a thump which was fun to hear through the scope. 

 

My placenta is also anterior, but it is much higher up in my uterus. In my research, people also noted that you can also hear the placenta through it. I don't know how things will evolve as he and the placenta grow, or if he changes position. The threads here on mothering were really helpful, though, especially one where a dr, I think, asks for help with it. Oh, here it is: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/765907/fetoscope-help

post #48 of 73

I've got Lulu back!  After 3 days and many posters, someone called, they had seen the poster, then saw the cat playing in the shade at the church a BLOCK AWAY FROM US!  I don't know why she couldn't find her way home from a block away, we even went around that church when we were out looking for her.  She ate a whole can of food (usually we have the two cats split one) as soon as she got home, then took a bath, then napped: repeat (but with dry food). She definitely lost some weight, and now she smells like dirt (she was covered in it when I picked her up), but she definitely seems glad to be home.  Boxxy is all in a snit about Lu being home, and alternately sniffed and then hissed at her, she even tried to slap her at one point.  Boxxy is now sulking in the other room, after spending the last 3 days being SUPER affectionate.  She acted like this the first time we brought Lulu home at 2 months, after being the only cat for almost two years, but they had been getting along fine, prior to Lulu's adventuring.  We're very grateful for the outcome.  

 

I was reading back through the posts and it seems I'm not the only one who is sort of flabbergasted that it is now halfway through the pregnancy.  What a neat feeling. Also, I read that a lot of the DP's are now feeling the babies move.  Q gave B a bunch of kicks this evening, and I think even for me, that was the first time it was a distinguishable kick, as opposed to rolling or general movement I couldn't identify.  I love it!

 

Eluethia, congrats on a little boy!

 

InTime, since you mentioned it, (or anyone else) I was considering the Bradley method, but then a friend of my sister was telling me about hypnobabies, now I'm not sure which I'd rather do.  Any advice from people with experience with either.

 

Also, finally, I can't remember if I mentioned this before, but we're planning on going to an open house at the birth center tomorrow to see what we think of it.  Hopefully we click with the midwives.  The place looked beautiful from the website, and lots of people on mothering have highly recommended it, so hopefully all goes well!

post #49 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by Veritas Vitae View Post

I've got Lulu back!  After 3 days and many posters, someone called, they had seen the poster, then saw the cat playing in the shade at the church a BLOCK AWAY FROM US!  I don't know why she couldn't find her way home from a block away, we even went around that church when we were out looking for her.  She ate a whole can of food (usually we have the two cats split one) as soon as she got home, then took a bath, then napped: repeat (but with dry food). She definitely lost some weight, and now she smells like dirt (she was covered in it when I picked her up), but she definitely seems glad to be home.  Boxxy is all in a snit about Lu being home, and alternately sniffed and then hissed at her, she even tried to slap her at one point.  Boxxy is now sulking in the other room, after spending the last 3 days being SUPER affectionate.  She acted like this the first time we brought Lulu home at 2 months, after being the only cat for almost two years, but they had been getting along fine, prior to Lulu's adventuring.  We're very grateful for the outcome.  

 

I was reading back through the posts and it seems I'm not the only one who is sort of flabbergasted that it is now halfway through the pregnancy.  What a neat feeling. Also, I read that a lot of the DP's are now feeling the babies move.  Q gave B a bunch of kicks this evening, and I think even for me, that was the first time it was a distinguishable kick, as opposed to rolling or general movement I couldn't identify.  I love it!

 

Eluethia, congrats on a little boy!

 

InTime, since you mentioned it, (or anyone else) I was considering the Bradley method, but then a friend of my sister was telling me about hypnobabies, now I'm not sure which I'd rather do.  Any advice from people with experience with either.

 

Also, finally, I can't remember if I mentioned this before, but we're planning on going to an open house at the birth center tomorrow to see what we think of it.  Hopefully we click with the midwives.  The place looked beautiful from the website, and lots of people on mothering have highly recommended it, so hopefully all goes well!


Oh yay. If one of my beasts (dogs) went missing, i'd be a WRECK, I probably would not even be able to type "LOST REWARD IF FOUND" posters i'd be so torn up. I'm so glad you found your kitty!!!! I can't believe i'm almost at viability ! tomorrow! !!!! FREAKED out dude!!! :D but in a good way ! 

 

post #50 of 73

Veritas, you can get out a book on the Bradley method from the library to see if it seems like a good fit.  I don't know much about hynobabies, but the thing I really like about the Bradley method is that it isn't really a method, just a TON of information about relaxation techniques, exercise, nutrition, and comfort measures during pregnancy and labor that make natural birth more possible.  Our instructor said that 89% of women who go through Bradley classes have a natural birth.  If you're looking for a specific technique, maybe hypnobabies is better.  I don't know how comprehensive it is, and that's what we were primarily looking for, so we went with Bradley.  I'm sure the two are pretty compatible though, so you could read up on the Bradley stuff and then check out hypnobabies too. 

post #51 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by LilyTiger View Post

Veritas, you can get out a book on the Bradley method from the library to see if it seems like a good fit.  I don't know much about hynobabies, but the thing I really like about the Bradley method is that it isn't really a method, just a TON of information about relaxation techniques, exercise, nutrition, and comfort measures during pregnancy and labor that make natural birth more possible.  Our instructor said that 89% of women who go through Bradley classes have a natural birth.  If you're looking for a specific technique, maybe hypnobabies is better.  I don't know how comprehensive it is, and that's what we were primarily looking for, so we went with Bradley.  I'm sure the two are pretty compatible though, so you could read up on the Bradley stuff and then check out hypnobabies too. 



First though! make sure you can DO hypnosis! I can't go under! I kept falling asleep during exercises- and never got to the point where I could visualize easily enough. I think I would have done a LOT better w/ a Bradley Class + a doula! 

post #52 of 73

Veritas, I'm so happy you found your kitty!  I don't even like my cat that much (he's kind of a jerk) but I would be heartbroken if he ran off or got lost.  I'm so glad the ordeal is over for you.

 

Is anyone else here seeing movement?  My belly is bouncing all over the place, it's the funniest thing!  This is my favorite stage of pregnancy now - feeling movement is great, seeing it is 100 times better!

 

We went out to a bellydance show at a sushi restaurant in NYC last night.  What a night!  I managed to avoid raw fish, but did enjoy cooked sushi and Thai iced tea.  I saw a lot of old friends in the scene, and have finally been inspired to start working on the duet that a friend and I have talked for ages about doing.  I also got two new scarves (I cover my head for religious reasons, but lately have gotten down the three useable scarves, so desperately needed more).  It was a great time, and the little girl "danced" in my belly every time the heavy drums started.  Maybe she'll follow in my footsteps and be a dancer. bellyhair.gif

post #53 of 73

I had a whole reply typed up.  Ack.

 

I second what Lily tiger said.  While I dont agree with laying down through labor or pushing only one way, the book is great for learning to relax.  That's key to an easier labor.

 

I havent tried hypno, but I get in a labor zone.  and i've heard many, many moms so the same. in a natural, unmedicated birth, your mind just goes somewhere on it's own.  When you look back on that time it's kind of blurry/cloudy.  You latch on to the birth attendant and would literally do anythign they tell you to.  I tell my DH to remind me to push slowly and gently.  Cause I want to roar down like a freight train.  LOL.  and he does and though I may not recall precisely how I pushed, I remember his voice and his presence.  You know?  Hard to explain.  It's just a zone. So I would think that the hypno would be pretty similar.  I dont know....

post #54 of 73

DH felt actual kicking for the first time this morning!  The babe was running around in there while I was lying in bed and I quietly got his hand into place and he felt four or five strong kicks, which totally took him by surprise.  Very exciting!  For whatever reason, he hasn't been able to feel anything but really subtle movement thus far.  joy.gif

post #55 of 73

yah vv so happy she's back!!!

lilytiger yahhhh for movement!!!

 

 

Got my first BHs last night on the walk home after a faculty dinner.. wondering if its the 16 hour days or if its just 'that time' in pregnancy where they start.. I guess Im almost 25w now? insane.

 

 

happy friday everyone!

post #56 of 73

Veritas Vitae - So happy you found your kitty! We don't let ours roam because she gets really pushy if she knows she can go outside, like wakes me up at 3am to be let out pushy. So, we just let her play in the yard when we're doing projects. Once she snuck out of my old apt when I left for the weekend. I came back to posters of 'Found Cat' everywhere!! A neighbor had found her in the hall and brought her to the Humane Society because she was allergic. Poor thing was so freaked out, she didn't try to sneak out again for a very long time. Little stinker!

 

I'm using Hypnobabies for this birth. We'll be starting the homestudy in the next few weeks but they have classes as well. I know lots of moms who have used it and loved it. I chose it because it is very comprehensive (childbirth edu + amazing coping and comfort methods, not sure about nutrition info), I really wanted concrete tools to take into my birth and I wanted DH to have an active role. With HB you don't 'go under', you're fully awake and aware through the birth. It's more of a training of the mind to respond to certain verbal/physical cues and reframing the entire way you view labor and birth. You do a lot of practice and the idea is that in labor your partner can say your cues (like deeper and deeper, relax, open, etc) and your body responds. The other reason I chose HB is that there are so many ways to use the tools you learn, even after birth. Every story I hear from a HB mom is so unique, you can really make it your own. My friend became a HB instructor after she used it w her second birth, her FB page has lots of info/birth stories if you want to check it out. The Hypnobabies site has tons of info and stories, too. I really think it has to do w personality, too. I have a feeling I will be very quiet and turned inward and the idea of training my mind to accept the intensity of labor makes a lot of sense. Sorry for the ramble, I'm obviously excited to get started! :)

 

Intimeo - I love your description of labor land!

 

LilyTiger - So cool that your DH got to feel kicks! Mine has only gotten to feel one little kick and tends to think that I'm feeling a lot of 'muscle spasms'...doubter. shrug.gif I'm just waiting for him to feel some big movement, we'll  make a believer of him!

 


 

post #57 of 73

Thanks for all the advice.  I was thinking Bradley, but I was telling my sister's friend how I tended to go inward to deal with certain situations (like you Leann), and she mentioned to me that I might be interested in HB.  So I figured I'd look into both, and the birth center I'm going to (met with them today and it went really well!) offers both Bradley and HB classes.  They have a free class, but then you can opt to go to the other classes for which an outside instructor comes in.  I'm excited about the birth center.  Everyone was so open and friendly and I felt very comfortable there.  Plus the birth rooms are fantastic.  

 

Feralfox, I haven't seen too much movement from the outside, but the other morning I woke up to a lopsided belly, she must have moved completely over to one side, it was so funny looking. 

 

So my cat, Boxxy, not the adventurer (she sleeps by my feet), has started sleeping ON my stomach.  She has never slept ON someone before.  The closest she would go is to sleep on the pillow next to our head, so this is sort of funny.  My friend said maybe she is trying to incubate Quinn. lol.gif  

 

Since we got Lulu back we've started covering up the cat door at night because apparently cats are more adventurous at night and early morning when they would normally hunt.  We're trying to prevent a "take off for days at a time" habit.   Especially since she is a little worse for the wear, with some cuts and things.

post #58 of 73
Thread Starter 

Happy anniversary Andaluza hope you both are having a wonderful day! 

VV so glad your little kitty is back!  

Waffler and Feralfox, you can see movement, that is way awesome.  I look forward to that, how fun.

post #59 of 73

Veritas, I am so glad to hear about your kitty coming home! I hope your new plan works out. My parents live in the wooded country and let their cat out. Every once in a while they call me really sad and are convinced that she got eaten by a coyote or something equally terrible, but every time she comes home days or weeks later, looking a little ragged, but generally ok. 

 

I have books on the Bradly method and hypnobabies out from the library. Well, I'm waiting on _Natural Childbirth the Bradley Way_ (seems popular, there's a wait list), so for now we have the _Husband coached childbirth_  Bradley book. Sadly, dh started reading it and got put off by arguments in favor of natural birth that mention how animals give birth naturally (well, so am I in a way since the similar argument about mammals that eat the placenta also is not the one that convinces me about placentophagy). However, I reminded him that he was born unassisted at home! I also keep telling him that he has to be on board with me wanting as natural a birth as possible and he needs to be informed so he can be my advocate. 

 

Feralfox, I have been able to see my belly bouncing, too. Totally cool! But it was even better last night when dh was on the phone with my mom and my belly was bouncing--he could see it and relayed it to her!

 

LilyTiger, that's great about how much your dh could feel!

 

Thanks, Sol_y_Paz! How are you doing? I didn't know if we would be able to go out, since dh is either sick or has bad hay fever, but he felt ok after work so we had an early dinner at a really interesting restaurant. One of the highlights was requesting change for the meter from a couple on the street and the guy (who was either weird or drunk) said, "Oh, my god, she's expecting!" It took me a while to realize that he was talking about my bump and it was pretty funny because he was the first stranger to say something to me outside of a baby store context.

 

Next Saturday we're having a yard sale with a few neighbors across the way and we need to do more prep for it this weekend. They always have a huge crowd, so I hope we manage to do well and scrape up some extra cash for baby stuff! I am a little worried that it is going to be extremely exhausting, though.

post #60 of 73

intime - I totally know what you mean about being in the zone :)

 

I tend to get out every now and then, and I tell myself to relax and things go soooo much easier.  My second natural birth was even better than the first because I knew I had to tell DH what I needed and when, instead of mincing around and trying to be polite and undemanding. I knew that he totally understood and wasn't stressed at all himself either.  I'm starting to look forward to this birth too!  Which seems like a strange thing to say for some people, but the last two have been great experiences, because I'm able to relax every bit of my body to actually fall asleep between ctx and do what needs to be done :)

  Return Home
  Back to Forum: August 2012 Birth Club
Mothering › Groups › August 2012 Birth Club › Discussions › Weekly Chat Thread April 9th