How can this be, when cases of vaccine-induced polio are indistinguishable from those of wild polio?
For one thing, most families in the US aren't given informed consent. I know I wasn't ever told that vaccines could cause autoimmune disorders, bowel disorders, food intolerances, seizures, and encephalopathy--but that's exactly what it caused in my family, and yes, those have all been diagnosed by mainstream medical doctors as vaccine reactions. I was never given a package insert. I was given a sheet of paper that said, "Reactions may include redness, swelling, and discomfort at the site of injection, fever, and fussiness." When I asked for a package insert in 2004, AFTER my children had had reactions to thimerosal-containing vaccines, I was scolded by the nurse, even though it was a multi-use vial. I had to insist that she get it, and when I showed her where thimerosal was clearly listed as an ingredient, she was speechless. She had no idea that multi-use vials were preserved with thimerosal.
Secondly, many adults in developing nations are illiterate even in their own language, let alone in English, which is the language of the package insert.
Thirdly, do you honestly think parents aren't going to hesitate if they are told that something injected into their child by foreigners may cause seizures and death? Are you really going to try to convince us that there is no proof that these families aren't given informed consent, so therefore they must have been given informed consent?
We already know that informed consent was never given in the cases of children who died in South American vaccine trials: http://en.mercopress.com/2012/01/04/gsk-argentina-fined-for-experimenting-vaccines-in-babies-from-poor-families. In fact, GSK was FINED because they actually falsified parental authorizations.
Do you think that parents are being told that a risk of the OPV is vaccine-induced polio?
Umm...did you even read the OP?
Maybe this article will help you grasp the severity of the problem? http://www.salem-news.com/articles/april182012/gates-vaccines-js.php
I have received a couple of reports about this thread. Having read through it, it seems to be a pretty good discussion. When members have strongly opposing points of view it can be difficult to not assume negativity and ulterior motives, but please avoid personally-pointed remarks and accusations in the discussion. You can have this conversation without making it personal and keeping it within the forum guidelines.
I'm really not sure how those numbers are misleading. There are 47,000+ EXTRA cases than would naturally be expected AND the incidence of both AFP and death increased as the number of vaccine doses increased. How does that not have anything to do with the vaccine?
i was not informed of them back in '87 when my first son was vaxed for it..nor was i told of reactions to the DTP...no sheets were handed out, no lectures about vaccines, no information at all, other than "He's due for his dtp and oral polio."
Deny the evidence. Deny some more.
Then deny again.
Everything related to vaccines is a-ok. No harm has ever been caused by a vaccine, and it ever will. The science of vaccines is final, more permanent than a Sharpie. Close the studies, move the funds elsewhere. There does not need to be any more research into the safety of any vaccine, whether it be new or old. Even the vaccines which have been proven to cause harm (OPV), well, that science was wrong. Because no vaccine can cause harm.
These new cases of paralysis must be genetic, or from tainted food, or something else. Anything else is to blame, but certainly not vaccines. It's only a coincidence, and nothing more.