"Simply" Catholic Mamas - Easter through Christ the King - Page 5

[mt_gooseberry]

I keep getting embroiled in debates on the internet with other Catholics about AP practices, and it is really upsetting me...because I know that there are real people on the other end of those debates who are representing Catholics as people who beat their children with belts, blast public breastfeeding as vilely immodest, co-sleeping as borderline sexual abuse, etc.; and these people have children who are suffering for their parents convictions.  There is actually a thread going right now on whether we should hit our children with implements or if it is better to do it with your hands, on the most widely used Catholic forum out there.  I just feel like weeping...I wish things didn't affect me so personally.

[dejagerw]

Can I join this thread? I've got two boys 3.5 and 1.5. I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but I know exactly what thread mt_gooseberry is talking about. Visiting that site always makes me crazy!! I'm looking forward to chatting with some more like minded mamas who don't preach beating their children as a good thing ;)
 

[PatienceAndLove]

Long time no chat, ladies!

I submitted my annulment paperwork, and am at the waiting stage. I need more patience

[mt_gooseberry]

Welcome, dejagerw! 

I am actually the kind of person who does not like conflict.  But I worry that maybe some undecided, naive person might take all of these scary suggestions to heart, and I end up arguing not so much to change minds as to convince that person who is not sure.  Which is why I jumped into the sleep-training debate last night, ugh.

I guess I didn't know you were seeking an annulment, Patience.  It's hardly the same thing, but thanks to going through the immigration process with my DH, I can understand what it is like having to gather a whole load of evidence, fill out a bunch of paperwork, only to submit it and have to wait for a decision that might depend on the mood of the person whose job it is to decide Yes or No.  You hear so much about annulments being sought (and granted) for frivolous reasons, and I heard one priest complain that we should just eliminate the whole process.  Talk about throwing out the baby with the bathwater! 

If JMJ reads this, I am interested in knowing how their decision is coming along!

[LessTraveledBy]

I think I also know which forum you are talking about.... I cannot go there because I always end up full of rage and sadness.

[dejagerw]

Does anyone have any good ideas as how to teach humility? I'm not a very humble person myself, which I should try to improve, but it seems everything I do to boost my kids' self esteem might tend to make a person self centered. Any thoughts?
 

[rightkindofme]

I really hope this isn't seen as offensive but this thread was in new posts.

I am one of the wacky weirdos. If my opinion matters at all I love when you all contribute your voices in dissent. I know nothing about you or your lives. I couldn't be like you if I tried--I haven't had the right life experience. I'm grateful when you share your perspective. You teach me many things. You make me understand the world in ways I otherwise couldn't. I think you make me more compassionate. Thank you.

[mt_gooseberry]

Originally Posted by dejagerw 

Does anyone have any good ideas as how to teach humility? I'm not a very humble person myself, which I should try to improve, but it seems everything I do to boost my kids' self esteem might tend to make a person self centered. Any thoughts?
 

Hmm.  Tricky.  I'll have to think about this one!  Good question....

[JMJ]

P&L, it's good to "see" you! Prayers that the anullment process will be a source of healing.

dejagerw, I have done very little so far since my oldest is 3, but we talk about specific virtues and talk about how to practice them, concrete ways in their own lives of how they could use these virtues, encouraging them that virtues will help them get to heaven.

rightkindofme, thanks for stopping in. If you are interested in anything about our perspective, please feel free to ask. The more I learn about the Catholic faith, the more impressed I become with how beautiful, thoughtful, and consistent it is.

We are still discerning. I really appreciate your prayers. We're visiting the local Maronites tonight to continue the discernment process. It just seems like there are so many paths, and we have no idea which one God is calling us to. It is a very humbling place to be.

[tinybutterfly]

PL, hope your annulment comes through fine. 

rightkindofme,  I ended up here ( Catholic) when I really thought there was no way I could ever end up here! I have always loved the Catholic Church, but belonged to two other churches that were very anti-Catholic in their view. But...I was drawn, pulled...and here I am! Never say never! 

Byzantine is Eastern Orthodox, right? Or are they two different, but very similar churches? 

Would someone please PM me the name of the Catholic message board? There is one I sometimes visit when I have questions and I am wondering it that is the one you all have been on. I sometimes get frustrated there, but I don't know of any other Catholic boards that are active. 

I am still new and learning...I really am enjoying the reading I am doing. I have been attending a class on Church history and that has been really terrific! 

ttfn! 

[JMJ]

tinybutterfly, there are several Catholic rites that are in full communion with the pope, but the prayers of the Mass are different, as are the calendar and the disciplines (fasting, etc). The Byzantine rite is one of these, formed by Byzantine Orthodox who returned to full communion with Rome while retaining their own traditions.

[tinybutterfly]

Originally Posted by JMJ 

tinybutterfly, there are several Catholic rites that are in full communion with the pope, but the prayers of the Mass are different, as are the calendar and the disciplines (fasting, etc). The Byzantine rite is one of these, formed by Byzantine Orthodox who returned to full communion with Rome while retaining their own traditions.

Thanks! I am still learning! There is a lot to learn! :)

[theboysmama]

Tomorrow the kids get to wear saints costumes to church. They are pretty excited. We haven't been to a church that has done this before. I just realized we haven't do e wings for ds 1 st Michael costume, oy.
Started adult ECF last week so hong to learn a bunch about Byzantine traditions.
P&L prayers your way.

[PatienceAndLove]

An excommunicated priest is interviewed and praised on a Canadian catholic TV station (use of small c is on purpose)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=toAT28ebIvc

More information about Fr Baum, the excommunicated priest, here:

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/on-gregory-baum-msgr-foy-responds-to-recent-catholic-media-fawning-over-dis/
 

[tiqa]

Quick question.  If you haven't been to Confession in say, forever... can you still go to "regular" Confession or do you have to make a formal appointment or something?  I'm talking, I haven't gone since I was 14, 15, and since then, let's just say that I've committed more sins on the list than I haven't.  (I'm not a hardened criminal or anything, but I've not lived a particularly Catholic lifestyle either.  By mainstream standards I'm pretty tame but as far as Examination of Consciences go... I pretty much fail the quiz, iykwim.)  Is is possible to just go line up during one of the general Confession times and do it?  And how specific do I need to get - because if I went down the list, it would take a while.  Agh... 

[crunchy_mommy]

Tiqa, you can go to a general confession, but if you expect to take a very long time, it might be best to make an appointment. But put it this way -- it's better that you go, and if having to make an appointment would prevent or delay you from going, then just go to open confession times. For venial sins, you don't really have to get too specific, but mortal sins you are supposed to confess more specifically, number of times, etc. but you don't need to go into huge detail. When you go, just let the priest know you haven't gone in awhile, and ask him to help you along. He can prompt you or give you a card to read, as far as reciting the prayers if you don't remember them, and he will ask you for more information about your sins if he feels it's necessary. As long as you are going with an open, repentant heart & are truly sorry for all your sins, even if you don't do everything exactly by the book it should still be a valid confession.

[dejagerw]

You can go to regular confession if you feel more comfortable. But, you could set up an appointment if you prefer that. When I went after a long time, I went to regular confession. As far as what to confess, obviously, you're not going to get it all. Try to get all your mortal sins covered, though. And a statement at the end about being sorry for all the things you forgot to mention is good too. Try to list as much as you can while being reasonable. If you're prepared in advance (maybe write down a list), you'll be surprised as to how much you can squeeze in a short period of time.

[JMJ]

Have any of you ladies heard of any diocese or other offering health insurance that families can purchase privately that is compatible with Catholic morality? I wish Solidarity would get up and running. I'm running out of time before our health insurance switches over.

Discernment is continuing. We had a beautiful weekend at a little church in Idaho that was celebrating 30 years of perpetual adoration. We're developing an alternate plan where we're considering moving just outside the town (a few miles away from the church) and getting some land and some animals and starting up a homestead.

[countryangels]

Originally Posted by JMJ 

Have any of you ladies heard of any diocese or other offering health insurance that families can purchase privately that is compatible with Catholic morality? I wish Solidarity would get up and running. I'm running out of time before our health insurance switches over.

Discernment is continuing. We had a beautiful weekend at a little church in Idaho that was celebrating 30 years of perpetual adoration. We're developing an alternate plan where we're considering moving just outside the town (a few miles away from the church) and getting some land and some animals and starting up a homestead.

Hi,

I was wondering, what is the name of the church, do they have a website? Do they have the Latin Mass? I would love to hear more about this quaint town. Glad to hear about your nice weekend :)

Thanks,Peace, Blessings.

[JMJ]

I'm not sure it's a "quaint" town because you have to have a certain number of Catholics available to keep perpetual adoration going for 30 years, but it doesn't take long to get out of town. No on the Latin Mass, and full disclosure: they didn't get the memo that the "Lamb of God" setting they're using is not approved. However, the pastor has been publishing tidbits from the GIRM in the bulletin and has just discontinued Communion services that had been happening regularly on his day off.

http://www.stedschurch.org/