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post #21 of 38
Amanda, DP just saw your graph and decided there will no longer be TV on days I work. Lol.
post #22 of 38

Yes, that looks scary, but is it controlling for the aforementioned parental involvement?

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My big kids are limited to 2 hours of screen time per day in the winter, twice a week in the spring and once a week in the summer.

 

I think that's key.  Thinking about the parameters for TV use, having a clear idea for when you will use it, and knowing what content is acceptable.  I can't imagine anyone arguing mindless TV consumption is a good thing!

 

Haha, Amanda, I think I'm the super rambly one today.  I am usually such a lurker on this board.  I have been tempted to sign up for the Spotlight thread, but I think everyone would think, "WHO???"!  Anyway, I also grew up in a home with a lot of TV watching.  My mother and I weren't big watchers, but my brother and father are.  I remember so well when my brother got his own TV, and it was like we just lost him.  If I was going to be black and white about one thing, it would be no TV in a kid's bedroom, ever!!!  Or in the dining room!

 

Jaimee, I totally don't want to take your TV away, but have you ever tried a TV-free period of time, like a month?  If not, do you think it would help you get over the hump with losing your temper?  Like the crutch is taken away, so I'd better learn to walk?  This is an Irish girl talkin', so I know all about fiery tempers!!!!  

 

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I think that's key.  Thinking about the parameters for TV use, having a clear idea for when you will use it, and knowing what content is acceptable.  I can't imagine anyone arguing mindless TV consumption is a good thing!

 

Haha, Amanda, I think I'm the super rambly one today.  I am usually such a lurker on this board.  I have been tempted to sign up for the Spotlight thread, but I think everyone would think, "WHO???"!  Anyway, I also grew up in a home with a lot of TV watching.  My mother and I weren't big watchers, but my brother and father are.  I remember so well when my brother got his own TV, and it was like we just lost him.  If I was going to be black and white about one thing, it would be no TV in a kid's bedroom, ever!!!  Or in the dining room!

 

Jaimee, I totally don't want to take your TV away, but have you ever tried a TV-free period of time, like a month?  If not, do you think it would help you get over the hump with losing your temper?  Like the crutch is taken away, so I'd better learn to walk?  This is an Irish girl talkin', so I know all about fiery tempers!!!!  

 

 

 YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DO A SPOTLIGHT!!! What better way to get to know you!! Please?!

post #25 of 38

 

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Jaimee, I totally don't want to take your TV away, but have you ever tried a TV-free period of time, like a month?  If not, do you think it would help you get over the hump with losing your temper?  Like the crutch is taken away, so I'd better learn to walk?  This is an Irish girl talkin', so I know all about fiery tempers!!!!  

 

I don't think so.  I mostly use TV as a preventative measure and not often.  So it's hardly a crutch, but it's a valuable tool when I feel it is necessary.  I don't mean to sound like I'm massively pro-TV.  I didn't let dd watch TV until she was close to two years old and that was only Signing Time and I watched it with her.  Now, I would say that dd watches about 30-60 minutes of TV/computer per day, more when sick or when I'm sick.  So it's some, but certainly not excessive.  If I can feel that I NEED a break and we cannot get out of the house then a movie will go on for dd at least.  Ds1 won't watch that.  Sometimes dd and ds1 will play "letter game" (Starfall.com) together and I allow that for as long as they are not fighting with each other (and ds1 learned phonic from that!).   At any rate, things are much better when the weather is better and we can get out of the house.  But chores and other tasks remain in the house that sometimes simply cannot get accomplished with fighting kids around and I cannot save all chores for nap time.  When all attempts at engaging the kids have failed (and dd is one of those spirited kids where nothing is ever enough) I will turn on a show instead of yelling at them for fighting and hurting each other and sequestering them in their rooms with everyone crying.  Some days all I have to do is turn the kitchen sink on long enough to get my hands soapy or remove Avery's diaper to change him for dd to get upset at ds1 for moving such and such in her room and ds1 to pull her hair and dd to pinch ds1 and then all hell breaks loose.  It's those times.  It sounds so simple when I type it.  Like how could I not mediate that situation and go on doing my dishes or changing the baby's diaper, but when this goes on all.day.long and the 40 degree rainy weather keeps us holed up inside and I was woken up 5 times the previous night by either ds1 or Avery, I can't take it.  My cup is empty. 

 

I used to be that parent that judged other parents for plopping their kids in front of the TV (and I'm not saying you're doing that to me), but honestly, when I lightened up about TV and allowed myself to use it when I felt like I really needed to, it was like this huge weight was lifted.  I had given myself permission to help myself before I was in dire need.  I'm not sure I would have done it if it hadn't been for my neighbor who has 5 kids.  She seems to effortlessly get things done at her house and her kids are happy and active.  They're outside whenever they can be and are involved with many activities.  But when she needs to, she'll turn on a movie for them without hesitation and I realized it was okay.  It wasn't this evil thing.  I can get so wrapped up in what is "right" and lose sight of more important things like how I'm interacting with my kids.  So now I allow myself those times and being able to get a task done from start to finish without my kids drawing blood, well, that can be the difference between a horrid day and pretty darn good one.

 

And yes, you should do a spotlight!  winky.gif


Edited by Jaimee - 4/19/12 at 5:30pm
post #26 of 38

We let DD1 start watching Sesame Street when she was around a year and a half.  She is 21/2 now and knows her ABC"S and can count to twenty and I have Sesame Street to thank for that.  We read all the time so I have to take some credit but the day I knew for a fact she was learning something from that show was the day she pointed to a stop sign and said "octagon".  I try not to let the baby watch the TV but it happens sometimes.  When it is nice out we try to keep the kids outside all day. I think a little down time watching her favorite show on the couch cuddled up next to me with her blankee while I nurse the baby is fine. I think everyone needs a little veg out time.

post #27 of 38
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Haha, Amanda, I think I'm the super rambly one today.  I am usually such a lurker on this board.  I have been tempted to sign up for the Spotlight thread, but I think everyone would think, "WHO???"!  Anyway, I also grew up in a home with a lot of TV watching.  My mother and I weren't big watchers, but my brother and father are.  I remember so well when my brother got his own TV, and it was like we just lost him.  If I was going to be black and white about one thing, it would be no TV in a kid's bedroom, ever!!!  Or in the dining room!

 

 

Ha! In my family growing up there was no need to worry about a TV in the dining room... we never ate in there! To this day, my parents eat on the sofa in front of the TV. nono02.gif

post #28 of 38
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I thought this Ted talk on children and TV was interesting:  http://seattlemamadoc.seattlechildrens.org/what-does-tv-do-to-my-kids-brain/

 

 

 

I'm watching this now and it reminded me that Mr. Rogers is awesome! thumb.gif

 

Joanie, the study you mentioned is in this video. It's for every hour per day the risk of attention problems goes up by 10%. However, when they broke that down by content, slow-paced, educational shows had no effect either way. It's the non-educational children's shows and the violent programs that are the issue. Well, after age 2 anyway. Plus, I'm sure, the amount of time spent watching. 

post #29 of 38

I am lucky that no one in our household is a TV junkie.  Even my mom, who lives downstairs from us, watches only PBS and some Turner Classic Movies.  And upstairs, we don't have a television at all.

 

Also luckily, Annamaria hasn't tolerated "secondhand TV" since she was a newborn - we tried ONCE to have her in the room while we watched a single Britcom on PBS, and she fussed so much that we turned it off anyway.  lol.gif

 

Unfortunately, the situation is totally different when it comes to computer screens.  My spouse frequently has A on his lap while he's trying to get something done for work.  That being said, ISTR that Elizabeth Pantley wrote most of NCSS with *her* son in front of the laptop screen, so... ??

 

 

post #30 of 38

We don't have a tv, and I'm pretty thankful for that.  I grew up watching tv all the time, and I'd much rather have had books!  (I used to read my text books from school, I was so desperate.)  I haven't had a tv for like 15 years, and now I can't imagine giving up anything that I do so I could have more tv time.  A neighbor asked me when dd was little how was she ever going to learn how to read without watching Sesame Street?!  Needless to say, we figured it out.

 

My daughter has finally gotten interested in computers this last year, and we do have an issue with that.  She can and will spend all day on the screen sometimes.  I put limits on it--1 hour of computer time and up to 3 hours a day of skype.  I still think that's massively too much, but she thinks it's way not enough.

 

The baby, well, I admit, I've put him in front of a youtube video of baby einstein a few times now.  Like Jaimee said, there are just times I need a break and there is no other way to get one.  This has mostly been when he's super crabby about teeth coming in.  I don't want it to be a regular thing.

 

And I'm not judging anyone on their tv!  This is what has worked for my family.  DD gets plenty of tv time at her grandparents, as well as sugar, and it doesn't work so well for her body.  I enjoy the quiet of my house without a tv.  My brother and my mom's houses have the tv on 24-7, and it's hard for me to be around it anymore.  There's nothing like sitting down to eat dinner with death coverage on the boob tube!

 

carey

 

p.s.  I remember once getting a brochure from the local WIC office, suggesting that kids my daughter's age should have ONE hour of tv time, and TWO hours of physical activity, and I was sitting there wondering why on earth I'd decrease her physical activity and increase her tv time to meet their standards...

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p.s.  I remember once getting a brochure from the local WIC office, suggesting that kids my daughter's age should have ONE hour of tv time, and TWO hours of physical activity, and I was sitting there wondering why on earth I'd decrease her physical activity and increase her tv time to meet their standards...

 

I'm sure they meant no more than one hour, not they should have one hour...the way we choose to to interpret wording is up to us. 

post #32 of 38

 

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I remember once getting a brochure from the local WIC office, suggesting that kids my daughter's age should have ONE hour of tv time, and TWO hours of physical activity, and I was sitting there wondering why on earth I'd decrease her physical activity and increase her tv time to meet their standards...

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post #33 of 38
Lol, computer screens. Once, on the way home from someplace, I encouraged Shay watch "Sexy and I Know It" because I know that dumb video makes him stop crying. That means he had been exposed enough for me to know how he would react.
post #34 of 38
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Lol, computer screens. Once, on the way home from someplace, I encouraged Shay watch "Sexy and I Know It" because I know that dumb video makes him stop crying. That means he had been exposed enough for me to know how he would react.

Im not going to lie, that video is hilarious and a household favorite. We even make B do the wiggle dance. Haha.

I would rather it not be on Nickelodeon though.
post #35 of 38
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I have not seen the Sexy video. I know dsd and her friend made a silly YouTube video to it, though. I try to stay as out of touch with pop music as possible, lol. I've shown Jasper the Kitty Cat video twice. He's also seen Hiphopopopotamus by Flight of the Concords. I like to sing that to him. His first words may be "ain't no party like my nana's tea party."
post #36 of 38

I will have to watch the Flight of the Concords video...they are hilarious.

post #37 of 38

We don't own a TV, haven't consistently for 10 years. We've experimented with having one and cable when I was able to get one of those $20 a month for full cable deals, but always cancelled it before the deal was even up (SO funny to call and cancel then - they're always like "But you still have 6 weeks of cheap cable left!!" And I'm like "I know, but we got rid of our TV so we don't need it." And they're like "...." I once called to cancel the cable because we didn't have a TV and the guy actually didn't understand me. Like honestly could not process it.)

 

That being said, DH and I will watch shows on the computer, like the Daily Show, at night after the kids go to bed, and we recently got Netflix. Canadian Netflix is terrible, but it's been interesting. DD has become a TV-show addict since I relaxed my TV standards for her at the beginning and end of my pregnancy, and then when O was newborn, and while either her or I are sick. Sounds reasonable, right? But the thing is, That has literally been a YEAR of relaxed TV standards, and I feel SO GUILTY. Especially this winter, when one of us has been sick non-stop since January. Kid has been an expert at navigating YouTube since before she was 2. (And yes, I am always nearby when she is watching YouTube videos in case of inappropriate content. I use it mostly to do especially difficult things, like brushing her hair.) 

 

I did experiment with no TV for a whole week a few months ago, and it went over really well. It only took a couple of days for DD to snap out of it, and then honestly, she didn't even ask for it the rest of the week. That was right before we all got really sick though (when the kids both got bronchiolitis, and we had 3 ER visits in 5 days.) so the TV was back on again, and we've never been healthy all at the same time since. Sob. I'm hoping we'll be over this latest by screen free week, and we can try again.  The hardest part about no TV week was getting the baby down for a nap. He pretty much did not sleep during the day that whole time. But otherwise her personality and behaviour was so much better than when she was watching TV.  SO MUCH.  

 

I'd love to be able to just send her outside to play, but outside time means park time, and that takes a lot of work on my part. I mean, we do go to the park every day, rain or shine, but I wish I could just open the door and let her go make mudpies while I folded laundry. City living is great for so many things, but I'd love a real yard. 

 

And I'm with you Jaimee - when DD was a baby I was all "no TV, not ever!" but realize that it is a valuable tool for me, if used moderately. I just need to find the right moderation. I am also totally against kids and commercials, so DD has never seen one of those. And she also has mostly only been exposed to slow-paced, appropriate shows. OK, so she used to do that cute-baby thing to Beyonce, but really, how could we resist?

post #38 of 38

I just got an e-mail from DD's school, and it mentioned that Screen-Free Week is April 30-May 6.  Does this apply to me and my MDC habit?!

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 YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DO A SPOTLIGHT!!! What better way to get to know you!! Please?!

Okay, I will sign up, but I am totally not exciting, a little shy, and kinda scared!!!!

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