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[firsttimettc]

Thanks Lizzlio!  I hope the little guys live long enough in me   baby dust to you!

Welcome back aHikaru!!!  

Tropicalfever.....your link doesn't seem to work, it only opens my own chart.

GoBecGo....your dream sounds interesting and a little sad!  I hope it really was a sign for you and not just a sad dream to have!  I also had a vivid dream last night (I always have vivid dreams), but this time it was about me taking care of baby and changing its diaper! It wasn't mine in the dream but I loved the baby! In the dream, one of SIL's came up to me and took the baby, even though it wasn't her baby.  Then I saw all my 3 SILs standing around holding babies and I didn't have one for me   That's very true to life as all three of my SIL's have 3 kids each and I still have none!  ughhh. 

An update since my last night's rant....I convinced my DH to BD with me.  But I got another + on my OPK (internet cheapie test) this morning and I'm afraid to ask my DH to BD AGAIN tonight.  It really wears him out!  He's on anti-depressants so I really think it lowers his labido.  He'll happily and easily have sex 1-2 times a week but not day after day.  Hmmm.......also, no ovulation detected yet on my chart.  This is a longer cycle for me for sure!

Thanks for all the advice and tips ladies, it really means a lot!  

[Tropicalfever]

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3c58ea This is the right link. GobecGo I sure will need your company .

There is apparently a strong link between you dreaming of your mom and getting pregnant I guess she's making sure all her descendants are fine. I know I sound a little crazy but I do believe that life doesn"t end wih death. My mom always dreams of her dead father (my grand father) when she is in extreme stress and can hardly find solutions and guess what? the next day all problems are solved within the twinkle of an eye effortlessly. Cheer up you have a new and wonderful day ahead!! Some people think all these are just happenings of the brain but we have to accept that some people are really more sensitive.

I can't wait for your BFP!!

[Stevi]

When my mother appears in my dreams we are always fighting. LOL

[Tropicalfever]

Fisrttimettc baby dust to you!!!! I'm sure you have enough swimmers to give him a day break on BD. Your dream just make me feel like you are really touched by the fact that your SILs have kids and you dont YET, don't worry its gonna happen when its gonna happen if its not already happened

[newtoTTC]

TropicalFever the only thing to remember about the OPKs is they detect lutenizing hormone, not actual ovulation.  you can have a surge but not ovulate, so if you surge but your temp doesnt rise at all it may be that the surge didnt quite pop the egg free.  In this case you actually can get a second surge, along with a second batch of fertile CM as your body basically tries again.  I couldn't get your chart to work but what did it show?  You can also have a day or so delay before your temp rises, (OPK, then day, then rise).   Good luck, I hope you get it figured out!

[jpack]

Hi to all the new faces! DoulaRebekah, thanks for the kind words a few weeks ago (and the rest for your support, too). You can take me off the list, my dear, I'm going to take a few months off and when we're ready to try again, I'll probably shift over to the post-loss threads. Lots of baby dust to you all!

[GoBecGo]

Firsttimettc My OH is the same way - once or twice a week is great, 3x/week is possible but more than that and he's struggling.  I don't think you need to worry, the swimmers can last 5 days (and i know someone who got a girl when she'd ovulated 6 days after her hubby went back on tour! they'd BD'd the morning he left!) and you're likely to O in the next day or so.  In the bad old days when i temped i did often have surging visible for a day or two after my temp had shifted, i think the start of the surge is more significant than the length of it for O timing.  I'm sure you're in with a chance! :D

newtottc EEEK! my info is so out of date!  I was definitely told (years and years ago) that temps were less reliable than OPK's because surges continue until O rather than repeat, but then again doctors tend to proclaim LOTS of stuff about women's bodies when actually they have no idea!  I love all the up to date info i'm getting on this thread! :D

Tropical fever the chart i see now is a new one, did AF arrive...?  You are still pretty warm, could it be implantation!?  Or is it a hangover from the malaria attack?  I'm sorry if you're out! :(

Stevi- i NEVER dream about mum, or almost never.  Occasionally i'll dream that "the family" is here, and she'll be amongst them, but as an appendage to "the family" not in her own individual right (if that makes sense).  This time she was rambling and confusing/confused and then most of the dream was that she'd died and my own grief associated with that.  Oddly i dreamed of my dad too and how unfair it was that he "had to go through this again" so some part of my asleep self did know it was only a dream.

AFM 5dpo and nuts as ever.  My nipples hurt when DD2 nursed this morning, it could have been a bad latch (she's teething her eye teeth) but it could be hormonal.  I do get it pre-AF, but i can't recall WHEN (because i ignore all this when i'm not ttc of course!), i thought it was with ovulation but obviously not.  Also i had to get up in the night to pee, which is almost unknown for me (even at 40 weeks i sleep through, lol) but then DD1 had almost wet the bed (just wet her PJ's a little) and it was when i got up to help her clean up and change that i really needed to go, so if i'd slept on i might well have NOT needed to pee until morning.  Ho hum, waiting waiting....i'm excited for 6DPO because at least after that i MIGHT have hormonal signs, rather than pretty much knowing it's either non-pg related or imaginary as i am now!  Off to nurse the toddler and find out if it was her latch or my nipples...

[Tropicalfever]

GoBecGo: Yes its a new cycle its seems my last cycle was 21 days. So I dont know whe exactly I'm going to ovulate + DP and I live in seperate towns so we really have to organise to make thing happen and just hope that the nex ovulation is on a week end ;)

[wannabmomkt]

Thank you for all the welcome wishes!! :)

Apparently I have had a lucky month already. I was waiting to O (I'll get these acronyms down soon) and tested positive on the OPK on my second day of testing. Thank goodness because I do not find peeing on a stick to be easy!! And today I went in for my first IUI. I'm crossing my fingers and saying lots of prayers! So that means I'm on the 2ww. I'm going to have to find a way to keep myself really distracted!

Our first sample that the nurse thawed was poor quality, I'm not positive about the numbers but I know there were only 19% good swimmers post wash. Luckily we had a back up sample that turned out with 91% of good swimmers! :) They were both from the same donor. Our nurse said she will file for the refund and that shouldn't be a problem. The fertility clinic we're using only uses Fairfax and California Cryobank and she said she's only seen 2 poor samples in the past few years!
 

Good luck and well wishes to everyone else ttc this month!

Oh and firsttimettc - I ovulated on day 17 on one cycle day 9 of the next two cycles. The nurse said it wasn't especially uncommon for ovulation days to vary and that it just depends on the woman.

freedem - I do not have a chart, I probably should but since the OPK seems to work for me I am going to stick with that for now. I may start with the temperatures if we try a couple times without success. The rest of the measuring seems a bit complicated to me! I am not sure how that all works. Maybe I will check some other ones out to get an idea :)

[maydaymom10]

wannabmomkt - I'm sending happy, fertile dust your way. Hopefully the good batch is extra good to make up for the poor one. Looking forward to hearing the results.

GoBecGo - your dream sounds amazing. I'm a big believer that dreams sometimes hold other meanings, and maybe this is one. Good luck!

Firsttimettc - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. I hope that the swimmers are strong and/or your hubby gets a sudden burst of energy to do some more bd'ing!

As for me... just counting down the days until I can test - I'm DPO 6 now. I can't read a thing on me. My temps are still up, but dropping. My breasts are tender & I've been getting headaches. But, ds is also getting over a case of hand,foot, mouth disease and had a few rough nights. I know some of my temps are off seeing I only got an hour or two of continuous sleep. Now that he's feeling better, I'm hoping I can get back on a routine for the rest of this cycle. I remember being clueless when I got the BFP with DS. I actually was certain the AF was on her way the day that I got the BFP. I had tested negative a few days before then (DPO 10 & 11), but got the positive on DPO 13. So, I'm trying to wait until then before I even consider testing (knowing that I won't last that long  ).  I think are BD timing was OK, but not optimal. DH's late work hours made it so that we didn't get to on DPO -1 or DPO 0. So, we'll see. We're in no hurry to get pregnant, but for some reason I just want to get that BFP now! I'm winding up my teaching career (for the foreseeable future) this month, and I think mentally I'll make the transition to SAHM a little easier if I know I have another baby to look forward to. It's weird, I know. Anyway... sorry for the rambling. Good luck to everyone & I look forward to reading your news.

[aHikaru]

Hope everyone is having a smooth day today 

AFM: Currently 13DPO, no real urge to test... Hubby is leaving for a deployment on Saturday, so I'll be keeping an eye on y'all and cheering you on...

[nattery]

I've been quiet the last week or so... gearing up to O in a few days but will be away from my partner and with my bf in Beijing so who knows. I'm not going to chart while I'm in Beijing so I'm wondering if it will do me some good or drive me crazy that I won't be able to pinpoint O ... who knows! It may be a relief or it may just drive me over the edge nuts.

I'm keeping an eye on all the girls here, hoping and wishing for the best for everyone!
 

[nearlyelated]

Hi all, I'm new to the TTC board.  I have a 2 year old, and DP and I started TTC last month (no luck!), so I'm waiting to O.  I'm going to start charting this month to try and figure out when I ovulate for sure.  I'm one of the lucky(?) ones who can feel which side I'm ovulating on, but I'm not sure if the sensation is pre or post O.

I had a cone biopsy for severe cervical dysplasia in August and had to wait six months for a clear follow up, so that's done, but I worry that I may have issues TTC because of the surgery.  Only time will tell.  Got a BFP after the first try last time, so I was convinced it would be the same this time.   I've started take EPO as I've read that CM can be affected by the procedure.

So that's me.  

Good luck to everyone!

[SKJ2011]

Hi. Can you please move me to Waiting to be ready? My hcg was 6.4 this week and I've been advised to wait to try until it's all the way to zero. I hope to join you all next month!

Good luck everyone.

[firsttimettc]

Thank you Maydaymom!  I hope his swimmers are strong!  I'm sorry about your DS, is he feeling better?  When do you get to test?  Did you already?

Thanks Tropicalfever for the insight!  I often dream of my SIL's and their babies....I'm hoping it will be my time soon!  

Wannabmomkt,  it's good to know that ovulation occurs on different days!  This is only my second month charting and I'm still trying to learn.  Good luck with your 2WW!

Nattery, have fun with your friend visiting!  I hope there is sometime in there you can maybe BD!  

aHikaru, I hope you get a BFP soon, with a sticky baby!  must be hard with your DH leaving, blessings to you!

Nearlyelated, welcome to the board!  This forum is so supportive, I'm so thankful for all the lovely ladies on here to help me through the TTCing!   I hope your TTC time is short!

As for me, I'm pretty bummed today.  As I said, this is only my second month charting and temping so this month I was aiming all our BDing for last month's O-date, which was CD11.  We BD'd four times around this date (see chart below) and it looked like my O was arriving later.  I warned my DH that we should BD again after our last time on Monday and somehow this didn't register for him.  I had sneaking suspicion I was O-ing yesterday (Wednesday).  SO when I got home from my crazy busy 13 hour day, I asked him to have sex with me.  We talked and had a mini arguement about it for 45 min!  I could not convince him to BD!  He says he doesn't like "baby-sex", what a jerk.  It was late....but not that late, and we could've done it twice in the time it took us to talk about it. 

Anyways, I woke up this morning and sure enough, my temp spiked.  I O'd yesterday (most likely) and we missed a good timed BD.  I know sperm can live in fertile CM for 5 days or so....and thats what I've been clinging to the previous months of TTCing, but it hasn't worked so far for us....so this month I really wanted to BD more.  I don't get a lot of EWCM and I have a feeling my DH's sperm isn't super healthy.  I feel so annoyed we tried so hard this month and my DH just decides to give up when we need it the most.  ughh.  I'm praying  it did work!  (on another note....I feel a tad crampy and my breasts are sore....which never happens around O for me, so who knows!!!  I know its so early to obsess over symptoms, I'm crazy that way!).  

Any BFP's out there to brighten my day?  

<a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3b78a9/">My Ovulation Chart</a>

Edited by firsttimettc - 4/26/12 at 1:01pm

[GoBecGo]

firsttimettc i feel so bad for you! :(  If it's any comfort my OH is kind of the same way (i don't know if he'd "refuse" to BD, but i sure know he'd have a really hard time doing it if "it's time" was the reason rather than "i just really want to", to the point that i'd never ASK him to BD verbally, i just go for a seduction!).  I pretty much "save up" the baby sex for the day before and/or of ovulation.  I mean, we DTD other times, when the mood takes, but i don't try to BD lots because i know if we begin doing it every other day at the start of my fertile period he will be out by the time i'm getting close to ovulation, and i don't mention ovulation until afterwards (i.e. i will tell him "i ovulated, maybe we made a baby", but not "if we want to make a baby we need to do it now").  I think for some guys, and maybe you're OH is one, they feel devalued by the process.  I know OH likes to feel i want to BD to be close to him, not just because i want his sperm and that's how i get it, iykwim?  It seems weird to think of THEM being fragile about it when it's us who have to drive ourselves half nuts trying to figure out when we're ovulating, if we're pregnant and THEN carry and give birth to the baby, but i know for OH he's just a bit of a romantic about our intimacy and doesn't want to feel like a timed donor.  He wants to feel the baby that came out of a spontaneous loving expression of affection.  Which to me is very romantic but possibly not really very realistic.  I'm sure you're in with a good chance this cycle ANYWAY, but if you go to another cycle maybe you could tell him you're taking a break and then switch tactics and keep quiet and seduce at the optimal moment?  Also if you don't feel you have much EWCM - have you tried preseed?  I have a few friends who've had great results with it.  Big hugs to you!

AFM 7DPO now, not convinced i have any symptoms that are pregnancy rather than PMT.  Implantation wouldn't have occurred yet anyway, most likely, so i'm still essentially driving myself mental over "nothing"...grrrr.  I feel starving until i eat then sick as soon as i do the whole time.  I'm exhausted but the toddler's sleep has been terrible the last 2 nights.  I'm trying to decide when to test.  I know my 20mIU tests could work even on CD10, but i only have 3 and i don't want to test -ve on 10,11 and 12 DPO and then have to buy more for if/when AF is ACTUALLY late.  I do have 2 of those fancy clearblue conception calculator tests too, but they're so expensive, i don't want to use those until i'm late...

[dakipode]

Originally Posted by GoBecGo 

He wants to feel the baby that came out of a spontaneous loving expression of affection.  Which to me is very romantic but possibly not really very realistic.

LOL! I think that's how my DH feels, but I think the idea of a "love child" is just as unrealistic as the white picket fence and 2.5 kids...

I like your tactic of saying you're on a break and then just happen to be in the mood the day it matters. I might try that if we don't succeed this month. I've got a while to go though, still waiting to O.

Part of me wants to throw it back at him and say: Yes, now you know how I felt all those years when you were in the mood and I wasn't but I BD'd with you anyway because I love you... That won't help though and it sure wouldn't go over well. ;-)

[SophieAnn]

Hi ladies, I've been lurking for awhile but finally got the nerve to jump in.

Please add me to Waiting To Know (2WW).

This is our first cycle TTC.  I was on the pill for 15 years so I quit the pill a couple months early and charted for 2 cycles to make sure I was ovulating okay before moving on to relaxed TTC.  Charts here:  http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/g2u5us6n4

I really wanted to NTNP and ignore the calendar, but after charting a couple months I couldn't help but be aware of my cycle day, and ovulation pain.  So, I'm pretty sure I O'd yesterday.  Also, even though I stuck with only having sex when we were in the mood/spontaneously, we had a LOT of sex.  I've always been the lower-drive partner in our relationship, but it seems that baby-making really improves my drive!

Now I'm waiting waiting waiting (and actually hopeful).  Ugh.  Test day is May 12th if no AF but I'll wait until May 13th if we're at home (might be visiting the ILs overnight on the 12th).

[firsttimettc]

Originally Posted by GoBecGo 

firsttimettc i feel so bad for you! :(  If it's any comfort my OH is kind of the same way (i don't know if he'd "refuse" to BD, but i sure know he'd have a really hard time doing it if "it's time" was the reason rather than "i just really want to", to the point that i'd never ASK him to BD verbally, i just go for a seduction!).  I pretty much "save up" the baby sex for the day before and/or of ovulation.  I mean, we DTD other times, when the mood takes, but i don't try to BD lots because i know if we begin doing it every other day at the start of my fertile period he will be out by the time i'm getting close to ovulation, and i don't mention ovulation until afterwards (i.e. i will tell him "i ovulated, maybe we made a baby", but not "if we want to make a baby we need to do it now").  I think for some guys, and maybe you're OH is one, they feel devalued by the process.  I know OH likes to feel i want to BD to be close to him, not just because i want his sperm and that's how i get it, iykwim?  It seems weird to think of THEM being fragile about it when it's us who have to drive ourselves half nuts trying to figure out when we're ovulating, if we're pregnant and THEN carry and give birth to the baby, but i know for OH he's just a bit of a romantic about our intimacy and doesn't want to feel like a timed donor.  He wants to feel the baby that came out of a spontaneous loving expression of affection.  Which to me is very romantic but possibly not really very realistic.  I'm sure you're in with a good chance this cycle ANYWAY, but if you go to another cycle maybe you could tell him you're taking a break and then switch tactics and keep quiet and seduce at the optimal moment?  Also if you don't feel you have much EWCM - have you tried preseed?  I have a few friends who've had great results with it.  Big hugs to you!

GoBecGo......Thanks for your insight!  Did you test yet?  Or is it still super early for you?  Now that you say my DH may be feeling devalued, I think that's exactly it.  He's made comments about it before that I'm using him for his sperm.  It's just crazy because over the past 5 years of marriage, we had a lot of regular non-baby making sex.  It just seems he needs to get over himself and accept that we need to have sex to make a baby.  ughh.  but you're right, I should change my tactics a little and especially not tire him out before my Odate. I think I'll use my OPK more than I previously did, I never thought they would be reliable, since they are the cheap internet kinds, but this month they were spot on.  We have preseed and I only used it once with the applicator....perhaps this next cycle I'll use all the way!!

I'm now 3DPO and FF put up the crosshairs and all that today.  I really hope this is the month! I don't think I can take another month of BFN's.  But I have a feeling we didn't do enough.  

Sophieanne...welcome!  Looks like we might be testing around the same time.  Good luck to you!

[maydaymom10]

Ugg. I'm need support on resisting the urge to test. I know it's too early (DPO 9). My temps spiked last night after a few days of being lower (although I had a restless sleep due frequent wakings from ds), and I've had some symptoms - most noticeably fatigue - that is just sending off some warning bells. Here's my chart if anyone wants to look. I really want to wait until DPO 13, but I don't know if I can hold off, despite the disappointment I know I'll get with a bfn right now.

[url=http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28dcd1/]My Ovulation Chart[/url]