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post #101 of 291
Nicole, I'm glad you said that! Shay is taking a nap around noon, one at 6 and going to bed around 10. I'm trying to get him on a better system, but this started right when the baby came so I thought it was related to that.

Shay is so cranky right now (in general, not at the moment).
post #102 of 291
Thread Starter 

We still have naps... 9am, 1:30pm, 5pm, and often 8:30pm with bed at 10ish, but it's the 6am wake up that's killing me.  I'm going to try and eliminate the evening nap and keep him down if he's going to wake up at 6 anyway!

post #103 of 291

Audrey has never been a great napper.  DH said today she took a ten minute nap in the car and that was it.(He tends to exaggerate though!)  Our saving grace is that she sleeps from 9 pm to 5am, nurses then sleeps until 8am.  I really can't complain! 

post #104 of 291

O woke up at 5:30 am, had a brief sleep on DH in the Ergo from 6:30 - 7am, then an epic 2-hour nap this morning, from 9 - 11am, then a short nap from 2 - 2:30 in the Ergo, and another one from 4:20 - 5:00pm, also in the Ergo.  He'll be asleep by 7:30, then up again between 5am and 6:30 tomorrow. This is not usual. He usually has 4 or 5 thirty min or less naps (it's usually more like 15 or 20 mins), two in the morning, one midday and one late afternoon. And no matter how late bedtime is (sometimes it's 8:30) he still wakes up at 5. We consider 6:30 am to be sleeping in around here. 

 

And he's usually pretty cheerful.

post #105 of 291

No naps here either!  Well, minimal naps.  This morning KJ was up from roughly 6:25 till 11-ish.  This is pretty common.  Plus she doesn't fall asleep easily like she used to - she won't just nurse to sleep anymore, I've got to bounce her and sshhh her in the Boba or the sling.  Then put her down, THEN nurse her (cause she won't "transfer" easily anymore, either!).  She seems pretty happy, too, but I worry she's not sleeping enough!  She's having a LOT of night wakings, too.  The other night she woke up EVERY. HOUR.  Sheesh.

 

I was reading about that woman on the cover of Time and she doesn't sound extreme at all - seems like they're going to paint her that way anyway, though.  I read an interview with her and she summed up pretty much how I feel:

 

"There seems to be a war going on between conventional parenting and attachment parenting, and that’s what I want to avoid. I want everyone to be encouraging. We’re not on opposing teams. We all need to be encouraging to each other, and I don’t think we’re doing a very good job at that."

 

I hope that article isn't just used as another way to spawn a heated, polarizing debate, though I'm sure it will.  I wish this weren't a part of the AP lifestyle.  I fully subscribe to AP, obviously - but it's also working for me and KJ, and feels right and natural.  I also have friends who are not AP mamas.

 

For me, the root of AP is that we feel it's of utmost importance for our children to feel loved, accepted, respected, nurtured, encouraged, attached (duh!), etc.  So that means we value love, acceptance, respect for other people.  I feel it's of equal importance to model that behavior towards other people and other lifestyles as it is to foster and nurture those qualities in our children and in our attachment relationships with them.  I'm tired of debates! I feel like mamas, and women in general, need to love and nurture each other, too.  That's so sorely missing in our society.

post #106 of 291
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Originally Posted by MrsKatie View Post

No naps here either!  Well, minimal naps.  This morning KJ was up from roughly 6:25 till 11-ish.  This is pretty common.  Plus she doesn't fall asleep easily like she used to - she won't just nurse to sleep anymore, I've got to bounce her and sshhh her in the Boba or the sling.  Then put her down, THEN nurse her (cause she won't "transfer" easily anymore, either!).  She seems pretty happy, too, but I worry she's not sleeping enough!  She's having a LOT of night wakings, too.  The other night she woke up EVERY. HOUR.  Sheesh.

 

I was reading about that woman on the cover of Time and she doesn't sound extreme at all - seems like they're going to paint her that way anyway, though.  I read an interview with her and she summed up pretty much how I feel:

 

"There seems to be a war going on between conventional parenting and attachment parenting, and that’s what I want to avoid. I want everyone to be encouraging. We’re not on opposing teams. We all need to be encouraging to each other, and I don’t think we’re doing a very good job at that."

 

I hope that article isn't just used as another way to spawn a heated, polarizing debate, though I'm sure it will.  I wish this weren't a part of the AP lifestyle.  I fully subscribe to AP, obviously - but it's also working for me and KJ, and feels right and natural.  I also have friends who are not AP mamas.

 

For me, the root of AP is that we feel it's of utmost importance for our children to feel loved, accepted, respected, nurtured, encouraged, attached (duh!), etc.  So that means we value love, acceptance, respect for other people.  I feel it's of equal importance to model that behavior towards other people and other lifestyles as it is to foster and nurture those qualities in our children and in our attachment relationships with them.  I'm tired of debates! I feel like mamas, and women in general, need to love and nurture each other, too.  That's so sorely missing in our society.

word.

post #107 of 291

Thanks, he plans on leasing them to businesses and not really selling any.  It's a lot more profitable in the long run to lease and most businesses don't want to hassle with owning them anyway.  He will sell them too, but it's secondary.

 

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Nicole:  Congratulations!!!!

 

Abra:  The aviaries are beautiful!  Why does your DH rent them out if they are custom built for the space where they will be installed?  Why not sell the aviaries with separate maintenance plans?  Is he planning on adding photos of the aviaries with birds in them?  That would be nice to see. 
 

 

Congrats Dionna!

 

Coralie is still taking 3 naps a day.  She just started to nap pretty well on her own actually.

post #108 of 291

Ughhh. I need to NOT read the comments about that Time magazine article. The local radio station here put up something about it and the comments straight pissed me off. People are so ignorant.
 

post #109 of 291
Obviously, I support extended breastfeeding. I nursed dd1 until she was nearly 4. But I have some issues with the cover. I'm probably going to keep them to myself...

Anyway, Jasper is still napping well, which I appreciate!
post #110 of 291
Thread Starter 

I think they made her look stern and almost militant instead of nurturing.  And the chair?  Come on!  It suggests he's as tall as an adult in an attempt to exacerbate his size to increase shock value.  It's confrontational from the get go.

post #111 of 291

The picture is controversial, yes. But the comments about how disgusting it is... And how anything past 6 months-1 year is unnecessary. I just want to strangle them through the computer. I just commented on it and said, "Yay for extended breastfeeding! Any woman that has the patience and will power to make it that long, good for them!" Ughhh.

post #112 of 291
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Originally Posted by seraf View Post

Nicole, I'm glad you said that! Shay is taking a nap around noon, one at 6 and going to bed around 10. I'm trying to get him on a better system, but this started right when the baby came so I thought it was related to that.

Shay is so cranky right now (in general, not at the moment).


Conner's been super cranky, too. I told him it's because he's not sleeping (LOL) but he doesn't listen. He's been very needy lately, which isn't like him. He's normally a really independent guy. He even had me ROCK him to sleep last night! WHAT? LOL

I'd like to think it has to do with that 2nd tooth that keeps popping through then receding back down. It's gotta be frustrating to have to keep going through that discomfort.

post #113 of 291
Thread Starter 

Oh sure, disgusted comments about extended breastfeeding itself are highly frustrating (though not unexpected, unfortunately).  But I don't think this was the way to try and educate people or attempt to normalize extended breastfeeding. 

post #114 of 291
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Oh sure, disgusted comments about extended breastfeeding itself are highly frustrating (though not unexpected, unfortunately).  But I don't think this was the way to try and educate people or attempt to normalize extended breastfeeding. 

I agree.

post #115 of 291
Exactly, Jaimee. Also, I'm thinking back to 3 3/4 yr old dd1 and thinking about the posing aspect...
post #116 of 291
Thread Starter 

Way to go Dionna!!!  Her response to the Time article in the Huffington Post!  We have a celeb among us!   thumb.gif  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dionna-ford/time-magazine_b_1507799.html

 

And way to go consumer reports!  Top 10 procedures to avoid during pregnancy/birth, things to do during pregnancy and before:  http://consumerreports.org/cro/2012/05/what-to-reject-when-you-re-expecting/index.htm

post #117 of 291

GO Dionna!  AWesome!!

 

I actually got a lot of positive feedback after I posted it on my facebook, and my sister in CA who has NO kids even said that at first she found the photo disturbing- but that by being exposed to images of breastfeeding all day because of it, it has lost its shock value and is already seeming more normal in her eyes.  She said the progression her thought process and opinions made in one day was amazing to her. 

post #118 of 291
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Originally Posted by TalkToMeNow View Post

Obviously, I support extended breastfeeding. I nursed dd1 until she was nearly 4. But I have some issues with the cover. I'm probably going to keep them to myself...
Anyway, Jasper is still napping well, which I appreciate!

 

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Originally Posted by Jaimee View Post

I think they made her look stern and almost militant instead of nurturing.  And the chair?  Come on!  It suggests he's as tall as an adult in an attempt to exacerbate his size to increase shock value.  It's confrontational from the get go.



That kid was nearing 4, and I am sure they chose him because of his size.  My 3 year old is tiny compared to that kid!  It was clearly done on purpose.  I don't think there is anything wrong with nursing a child that old, but they obviously intentionally tried to make him look older.  Ugh. 

I don't think I would agree to have my child nursing on the cover of TIME magazine.  I wouldn't sacrifice his wellbeing (I can only imagine the teasing in middle school!) for the sake of trying to make extended bf-ing less stigmatizing.

post #119 of 291
Yeah they also chose a skinny skinny mama to emphasize the kid's size. So contrived!
post #120 of 291
Dionna must be near my area. Mt favorite local radio station was trying to get her on the air on my way to work today. I had to miss the interview but I'm going to try and find it online. They seemed pretty supportive of her stance...

Naps are like a roulette game for us. I just go with it. Dd1 was very regular with naps but I always felt tied down to the house. Greta normally gets enough sleep during the day just not at set times. She naps sometime in the morning usually 1.5-2 hrs after waking but she can go longer without a nap if we're out. Then she takes a nap in the afternoon after being awake around the same amount of time. 3 hrs is her limit most of the time. Usually one of those naps is at least 2 hrs. Sometimes Both are a couple hrs. Sometimes one is just an hour or so. She typically takes a short snooze around 5 or 6 in the evening for about 30-45 min. If she took two long naps she will sometimes skip that evening nap.

Bedtime is almost always around 8:30 pm. The other night she slept from 11 pm-7 am without waking. It was amazing! Last night she woke at 10, ate, and slept until 4!

ETA: Here's a link to the radio interview from this morning. I hope you don't mind me posting this, Dionna!
http://www.965thebuzz.com/pages/11315180.php
Edited by Mal85 - 5/11/12 at 12:29pm
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