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Lol, I so don't consider a restaurant trip to be a failure just because my kid eats a coaster. If they have highchairs, set her in it and give her whatever finger foods she likes before looking at the menu (menu? Shoot, just ask the server what's good and what's GF/DF, the biggest thing about eating out with kids is to leave a decent tip), try going earlier so they're less busy, bring toys and snacks for the baby. If you worry, bring that shopping cart cover for the highchairs because they're gross.
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First fever last night. 2 hours sleep. Kept sitting up and crawling around in his sleep. Fell off the bed (it's on the floor, so 8 inches) at the start of the night. Then this morning Soren pooped out the side of his diaper all over Shay, the couch and me. PARTY!

 

Oh, it wasn't a failure because of the coaster noshing. I should've elaborated. The crying at the top of her lungs, kicking, all-out fussiness and inability to sit her down or hand her to anyone else contentedly was horrible. My mom felt so bad watching me with Sora, unable to get a break. Earlier I had spent 6 hours with my parents at their house an hour away and Sora was in my arms most of that time. She is so hard to get down for a nap when not at home. (What in the world am I going to do when she outgrows her swing? *cringe*) I was so tired and hungry by dinnertime, but alas... no luck. Baby wanted to make a scene. Then she screamed and wailed the entire hour drive back home. She got handed to DH the second we walked through the door, let me tell ya.

 

The restaurant idea was a last-minute idea and I was totally unprepared. I only had one toy and no finger foods for her. I've never fed her food from a restaurant. I had no idea what I'd order for her since she does purees most of the time. Any ideas that can prepare me better next time? What kinds of foods do the rest of you order for a baby? Or are there any finger food snacks you buy from the grocery store that are okay for baby at this age?

I no longer feel so paranoid about what Sora ate. Thanks for sharing all of your stories. lol.gif Too funny.

 

And wow, Sara. Your night sounded pretty dang exhausting. I hope you can get a good nap in today!

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Oh Sara I hope you get a good nap!

 

Joanie-  anything they have they will usually slice and serve plain.  Avocado, banana, blueberries are usually our go-to eating out foods.  Earth's best  has GF baby puff things you can buy in a box.  Not sure about those, never used them.  And when all else fails, the menu and coaster are chock full of fiber and provide lots of entertainment lol.gif

post #123 of 352
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Originally Posted by Paigekitten View Post

The very first thing she ate was a big mouthful of dirt, can't be any worse than a coaster. shrug.gif

Actually, eating some dirt is supposed to be good- a part of a healthy immune system.  There was an article on this a while back.

 

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And I know it's stressful to think of, but I really would recommend looking at how you can change your home into being more baby-friendly, toddler-friendly and kid-friendly. Create a YES environment - one where you don't have to be always saying no, where she can be free to be curious and explore. This will make things easier on you as well, because you won't have to be constantly watching her, and redirecting her non-stop...

Yes!  Honestly the sooner you do this the better, IMO.  Life is so much easier when you're not running around preventing problems, taking things away, and saying no for the millionth time.  I'm not huge on babyproofing either.  We never bothered with outlet covers, table bumpers, toilet/fridge locks, etc.  But we do put away the breakables, keep electronics and other important items up on counters (pushed all the way back against the wall), and install cabinet locks and doorknob covers when necessary.  We also have toys and books at baby/toddler level all around the house- like on the bottom shelves of book shelves, in bins, on kid tables, etc.  It can be difficult to rearrange your house for kids, but it's so much better than trying to keep them out of your candles, away from your DVD collection, and out of your craft supplies all the time.  Dd and ds1 were into all the cabinets and after the umpteenth time putting the pots and pans back I gave in to locks.  With dd we left one cabinet for her to play in- the plastics.  But now we don't have much plastic anymore- pyrex doesn't make for good toys!  So all the cabinets are locked.  Ds1 also is an escape artist and after two scary incidents where we lost him only to find him wandering around outside, we put on the door knob covers.  But that's about it. 

post #124 of 352
I'm home alone with the babies so I see a nap in my future.

Joanie, It sounds like you had a lot more going on than just the restaurant. What is it with parents and last minute dinner plans? During that hear wave Sara's folks were in town. We went to a movie for some air conditioning and then everyone wanted to go to dinner. It was bedtime by that point. So we went for dinner. We weren't planning on dinner, we only packed enough diapers fo lr the movie and Soren went through all of them. We found a couple in the car and decided it was all ok. So we got to the restaurant(bar). All the tables are at bar hight. A highchair is at butt level there. They were totally busy and there was one server. We waited almost 20 minutes and still had no menu. The table next to us waited for their check the whole time. I suggested finding a different restaurant. I made this suggestion a few times before there was any follow through. Her folks are very sweet, just more patient than I was feeling as I stood/bounced a cranky baby with no toys or food or highchair. after bedtime. Yep. So we went to the wing place across the street. I took Shay for multiple walks (Soren nursed and slept), took him to the bathroom a couple of times, let him play with condaments, fed him rib meat, chicken, salad fixins and a couple of French fries. I walked him some more while everyone else finished. He sat in the restaurant only while the meal was on the table. Because this seems to be a pattern, I'm going to ask if anyone wants to go or dinner at, like, 4 Pm. And I won't leave the house without snacks.
post #125 of 352

Tupperware.  The all time favorite toy of babies everywhere. thumb.gif

 

ROTFLMAO.gif  Lube.  OMG.  

 

Restaurants: highchairs are totally gross.  Ugh.  At one of our favorite restaurants I watched the server actually CLEAN it, during dinnertime, so that made me feel better about that particular establishment.  But other places?  You can just tell they are gross.  Caked on food, gunk, slime.  OMG.

I have heard some parents recommend asking for the food to come out in to-go boxes and bringing the check when you've finished ordering so that if you have to make a mad dash, you can.  That sounds like an awesome idea, but is one we've never done.  We should, though.  
I think laughing it off, lowering expectations, and going with the flow are all so essential especially in public (which is hard.  Super hard.)  I always feel judged by other people, which I am trying to get over lol.gif  I just know I am not going to have a relaxing, laid back restaurant experience if my kids are there.  Screaming would be too much for me, for sure.  I'd ask my husband to order for me, bring the sling, nurse the baby, bring toys, let him try to sip from my cup, chew on my finger, eat some finger foods, etc.  Anything to distract.  Honestly, it helps a lot that Dylan has his older brother there.  He's usually content no matter what as  long as his brother is around.  And my older son was an angel in restaurants....  bag.gif

 

Hyper at bedtime?  My first thought was that bedtimes change so much, so I just roll with it until he is eye-rubbing.  Then we put him down.  We have "usual" bedtimes but they aren't set in stone.  It depends a lot on nap quality/quantity, etc from that day.  I always watch the baby not the clock. That has been really useful for me to remember.  My older son had an 8pm bedtime, then 9pm, then 7pm.  All in his first year.  Their needs change so much and once there is a good routine in place, things change again.  So I just roll with it......  

 

Also sometimes I just need to reset.  When I am getting impatient for bedtime, or frustrated with a screaming baby in a restaurant, or just DONE with the situation, no matter what it is, I just reset.  Take a minute, do something really funny with baby (peekaboo, high-pitched noises, tickles, whatever makes him/her laugh), play for a minute or two, then try again. Even when Dylan is SUPER screamy at night, and I have tried EVERYTHING and he won't latch on he is so mad, I just make him laugh.  Works every time.  

 

There are lots of things you can buy at the store that are perfect for these situations.  Get some Happy Baby puffs (Dr Sears), some Plum Organics puree pouches, and maybe even a few jars of earth's best purees.  Keep a couple of things in your diaper bag (they are shelf stable, so just don't leave them in a hot car or something).  THen you'll always have food on the road.  Or the restaurant has plain veggies/fruits, so if you're not ready with food from home then give her a carrot or celery stick.  She won't be able to do much more than just suck/gnaw on it at this point.  Green beans, asparagus, apple slices are all good things.  She can even eat them cooked plain if the restaurant can do that for you.  Even if she can't ingest it, she has something to "play" with that is safe to put in her mouth.

 

We had this restaurant in CLE that had a vegan chef and he'd make our son (who was 1 at the time) an awesome tofu veggie plate.  It was huge.  And he didn't charge us.  That was so awesome.  Often if you ask your server they will have ideas or perhaps you'll get lucky like we did and the chef will have young kids and know what to do thumb.gif

 

Also, if you've had a long day and you know you're pushing it by going to dinner.... don't go.  shrug.gif  I try not to push my kids' limit too much too often.  Sometimes it happens.  But if they've had a long day already, it's not worth it to me.

post #126 of 352
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I had a failed attempt at bringing Sora out to dinner at a restaurant with my parents tonight. It was bad. I ended up giving up just 5 minutes in and leaving with her. I was bummed. But I was more upset with myself that in the midst of trying to look at a menu and hold her squirming and fussing, I wasn't paying attention to what was in her hands and she managed to eat a pretty big chunk of one of those cardboard-like coasters. Ugh. It had a bunch of dyes on it and everything. Should I be worried? Here I am constantly trying to prevent Sora from eating anything that's not specifically made and chosen by me, and then she goes and eats something on her own...

I have to feed Levi while I'm sitting at a table. lol Or else NOTHING can get accomplished.

post #127 of 352
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Also, if you've had a long day and you know you're pushing it by going to dinner.... don't go.  shrug.gif  I try not to push my kids' limit too much too often.  Sometimes it happens.  But if they've had a long day already, it's not worth it to me.

 

Yes! One of the most important things I have figured out as a parent is not to put my kids into situations where they are bound to fail. Dinner at a restaurant? Almost never when they were younger. They were too cranky already by that point. If we did go out, it was always to someplace noisy and kid friendly. Someplace where it wouldn't be a big deal for a kid to yell or for me to stand and bounce her. Also, like Sara said, leave big tips to offset the mess you will inevitably make! Eating outside is great. Go out on kids eat free nights when there are bound to be a lot of kids. But, again, I prefer not putting my kids into situations where they will not behave and I will get angry. Sometimes, that is unavoidable, I know. 

 

A lot of times, this mindset would have me putting things off forever. I mean, when is it a good time to wait at the DMV with a toddler?! I always spread errands out to multiple days. 

 

Oh man, the stories I could tell you of dinners out alone with dd1 and dd2. I've said before how dd1 has some issues. Before I gave up on doing "normal" things like eating out, there were several times where I had to have multiple people step in to help me get her and dd2 out of a restaurant. When 3-6 yo dd1 would melt down, it was an all out war. Other parents and servers would come to the rescue to hold dd2, help me restrain dd1, get us to the car, etc. Good times. Thank god there were always understanding people around. (Btw, this was back when dd1 was in OT and play therapy. I did actually realize her behavior wasn't normal!!)

post #128 of 352
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Originally Posted by TalkToMeNow View Post

 

One of the most important things I have figured out as a parent is not to put my kids into situations where they are bound to fail.

 

A lot of times, this mindset would have me putting things off forever. I mean, when is it a good time to wait at the DMV with a toddler?! I always spread errands out to multiple days. 

Yep.  When dealing with my spirited kids, I try and set up them up for success and that means avoiding certain situations and, yes, putting things off.   

post #129 of 352
Lol. My kids are actually decently behaved for kids. They've all been eating out since the first week. But they're still kids. One of my favorite restaurants back then seated families with in a seperate area so the waiters didn't trip over them. It was awesome. But certain situations are no good.
post #130 of 352
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Lol. My kids are actually decently behaved for kids. They've all been eating out since the first week. But they're still kids. One of my favorite restaurants back then seated families with in a seperate area so the waiters didn't trip over them. It was awesome. But certain situations are no good.

 

Yeah we go out to eat like... a few times a month which is often I think...  Our kids are always really great, but it is so circumstantial.  I mean, we go to quiet, sit-down restaurants that aren't even necessarily kid friendly..... But they also aren't super busy with lots of people everywhere.  I wonder if that helps them since it isn't overstimulation-central? I don't know. I think I can imagine my 3-yo getting pretty amped up if we were to go to a crowded restaurant with TVs everywhere.  But then it also depends on the kid and what situations they do well in.

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We took Sora out to dinner for the first time at a Mexican restaurant on Cinco de Mayo. It was the most hoppin' Mexican restaurant in town, too. We weren't thinking. LOL. She actually did really well until a guy started playing guitar in the bar area... Somehow that sent her over the edge of overstim, as if the rest of the noise wasn't enough. It was so loud in there, we couldn't even hear her crying. Yikes!

post #132 of 352

Yay, finally have an appointment! After calling and calling and calling... It's for a month from now, but when I asked the receptionist that is was okay to bring R, she asked if this was concerning postpartum issues and I said yes. She said the psychiatrist likes to see women for postpartum issues as soon as possible and she put me at the top of the wait list and said she'd call me as soon as they had any cancellations. w00t!

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As far as baby proofing goes... having just read the Continuum Concept again I am inclined to agree with the 'yes environments'. I don't see myself baby proofing at all. I DO see myself moving the xbox/bluray player/etc up to the spots above the tv instead of below and putting R's books and toys on the bottom shelves of the book cases and whatnot. I DO think I'll be getting some outlet covers, though. They didn't have electric sockets in the amazon! ;)

 

I will also need to move our couch. I'm bummed. It's L shaped with a chaise lounge on one end, so it can kinda only go one way... but it backs up to a cut out that looks down to the landing... so if R climbed up on the couch and up on the back he could potentially fall down to the landing or all the way down to the downstairs...! dizzy.gif

post #134 of 352

Oh man I have the same kind of sectional, and it backs against a half-wall that goes down the stair well...and I never gave it a thought.  Eugh, rearranging time!

 

Chrstina- so glad you got an appointment!

 

NAK

post #135 of 352
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Awesome about your appointment Christina!

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Yay for an appointment. I scheduled Sara and said "eval for PPD" and they got get in 2 days later. It didn't seem especially helpful but it did happen.

Baby proofing, I was an awful kid, like a bugs bunny impersonator who would dive face first into the floor intentionally. I did anchor my bookshelves for my first.

Christina, I think they make nets you could secure around the top of your landing behind the couch. Wouldn't be pretty. You could possibly do something with trellis? What did you the of the continuum concept?

So I told y'all about our night. There has been more fun. First Soren woke up so I took him potty while Shay was nursing in the MT. I was paying attention to the stream for aiming purposes and looked down to see Shay had Soren by the nose! Then I tried to add milk to a bowl of oats but instead poured it into the whole carton (clumps like cat litter, yay!). THEN I took a poopy diaper off Soren and found out there were no clean diapers, I walked over to the dryer and Sara said something so I turned my head and Soren peed in the silverware drawer! That's 3 strikes, can I go to bed now? I almost peed myself laughing at the drawer pee. Now I have a lot more dishes to wash.
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 Sara said something so I turned my head and Soren peed in the silverware drawer! That's 3 strikes, can I go to bed now? I almost peed myself laughing at the drawer pee. Now I have a lot more dishes to wash.

spitdrink.gif  At least you can laugh at it! ROTFLMAO.gif

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ROTFLMAO.gif I'm sorry to laugh, Sara, but your night and day have been pretty entertaining over here. Sheepish.gif Baby peeing in the silverware drawer... that's one I've never heard!

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Yay, finally have an appointment! After calling and calling and calling... It's for a month from now, but when I asked the receptionist that is was okay to bring R, she asked if this was concerning postpartum issues and I said yes. She said the psychiatrist likes to see women for postpartum issues as soon as possible and she put me at the top of the wait list and said she'd call me as soon as they had any cancellations. w00t!

Oh good! I'm glad! It seems the wait for help is the most maddening. It was for me at least. I hope you can get in sooner, with a cancellation. hug2.gif

post #140 of 352

We're just starting to think about baby proofing, as Luca has taken a few tentative crawls.  This week he has been exploring the living room, and it ain't pretty.  We've got cords everywhere.  The art supplies are all down low--paint, rubber cement, and glitter, anyone?  The glider death trap is about the only thing he can pull up on, and he's all about pulling up.  Sigh.  I'm trying to get rid of furniture we don't need, replace on the cheap furniture that doesn't work, and also downsize.  There are piles of books everywhere awaiting new owners.  I find myself saying "no" a lot, and I remember when my daughter was little, realizing this was not the word I wanted to be saying the most.  With my daughter, we confined her to the living room, but it was a big LR, and everything of hers was in there.  This house is a bit smaller in that regard.

 

Bedtime is quite unpredictable around here.  I've been doing a sleeping log to see if we can spot patterns in Luca's sleep.  Nope, totally random.  We have first bedtime, which is sometimes/often a nap in disguise.  That's followed by the giggle baby or the hyper baby.  Tonight, he was bouncing up and down in my husband's hands and then going crazy.  Second bedtime always sticks, thankfully, unless I have managed to jinx myself.

 

We have taken Luca to a restaurant once, with family.  We took turns taking him outside and walking him around.  He just fussed continually, and the booster chairs they had, I was pretty sure would not contain him.  We're fans of take out.

 

My ex is coming to pick up my daughter on Fathers' Day for the switcheroo.  It'll be fun/weird/cool spending the day with the fathers of my kids!

 

carey

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