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Carrie ~ I've got some pills for those voices in your head. pinktongue.gif

 

It wasn't in my head.  I swear!  I heard it!! shrug.gif

 

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Truck parking *ugh* That could have been handled way better. (by Sean) Like hey, Ryan, it's not really safe for the truck to be street parked, as there's not much space there for all this sexiness. Do you mind moving your car so I can park in the driveway?

 

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Ok good.  I'm pretty sure 99.99% sure, we're staying the whole time, too.  MW, can I paypal you the money?  Will that work?

post #202 of 409
Yes, you can send the money PP or WePay. I have accounts with both.

Haha, Kat, too much sexiness!

I get the conventional idea of feeling like you should get priority parking because you are the adult or the parent or whatever. But, if you are trying to live a consensual life where everyone is equal regardless of age or gender or financial contribution or whatever else you can think of, then that idea doesn't fit. As soon as I go somewhere in the van I'm going to park it in the street so Ryan can park in the driveway. He had a valid reason but I can't remember what it was. It's not really a problem parking in the street. It's still right in front of the house.

I doubt we'll do Busch Gardens, either. I'm going to get passes for Williamsburg, though. Ryan had a really good time there when he was about Ethan's age so I think Ethan and Kellen will really like it, too.
post #203 of 409

Uh oh - we need someone to come with us to Busch so someone can watch the littles while we go on rides!  Lauri - come!  We'll help with Ava!! Are the big kids able to come?

 

If we do the flex tickets, busch is included, as well as Jamestowne and a bunch of other things....

 

http://admissions.williamsburgmarketplace.com/eStore/Content/Commerce/Products/DisplayProductDetails.aspx?ProductGroupCode=1057&ProductCategoryCode=4&ProductCode=14132&Mode=Standard

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ooh, coasters! DH can't ride them, but I can! The flex ticket sound neat, (pricey, but neat) I need to work on saving some $$. *sigh* I suck at saving money.

 

Lauri, can you wear Ava? makes her not walking and not stroller riding less of an issue.

 

Consensual living . . . I don't know how to apply that in anywhere except maybe at home. It doesn't jive at work. Even at home, someone is always giving way to someone else's needs - not saying it's not possible, I just don't know how you make that work.

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I think it's hard with littles b/c usually decisions are made 2:1 in favor of the baby, or in favor of what's easiest/best for the mama/baby pair.  But with a grown child, or with a spouse, it's easier and better I think to be on equal ground.  You do make sacrifices but you don't throw power around (does that make sense?) to make decisions.

 

Ladies, I going to take both kids to the dr by myself.  I'm so not looking fwd to this.  Nora complained her ear hurt and Finn is still a hot mess...I might as well take both if I'm going to take one.  I really hope they find nothing wrong. 

Idk what is up with these kids and chronic ear infections.  Is there anything I can do to prevent them?  This is like Finn's 5th (if he has one) and all these abx make me nervous!  

 

It's gorgeous out.  If they feel up to it I'm setting up the pool outside and getting them in the sun!  Vit D can't hurt!

post #206 of 409
Kat ~ I meant to answer your question about the crying. Sometimes the only thing we can do is be present for the child. He may need to just get emotions out and that's how he's doing it. He may be trying to get someone's attention. Kellen will cry louder if he thinks we aren't responding fast enough. Empathizing could help if you have any inkling of why he's upset. Just keep in mind that sometimes children will cry even more or louder at first because they feel safer doing so if they think they are really being understood.

We don't live a completely consensual life. I don't think it's possible with young children that adults are legally responsible for. However, keeping the principles of consensual living in mind, I try to take the kids' thoughts, feelings, ideas and perspectives into account as equally as possible. In that vein, no one's vehicle is any more important than anyone else's. To me, the thoughtful, caring thing to do is leave space in the driveway for whomever thinks it's most important to park there. Since I don't really care if my van is in the driveway or on the street, I'll park on the street. I'm not giving anything up so that Ryan and dh can both park there because I don't care. If I cared, the thing to do would be maybe say that either the first person home parks on the street or first come, first serve for the driveway. I think it's also possible for Ryan to park his car behind the van or the truck. The only problem with that is that someone might have to move cars since we have different schedules. That's not a big deal, though, imo.

Anyway, the idea of consensual living is to do just that. Take everyone into account equally and work toward a solution that makes everyone happy. It can sometimes be difficult and may take several tries at different things but it's not impossible. Of course, it's a lot harder when one parent wants to live that way but the other doesn't get it.

Carrie ~ Regular application of garlic ear drops might help clear up and prevent the ear problems. Breastmilk might help, too. Also, keep in mind that was looks like and is called an ear infection is not always a bacterial infection. I read that any time the inside of the ear looks red or swollen or inflamed it's called an ear infection even if there may not be any bacteria present. That's one reason that medical associations now recommend against giving abx right away. Unless the child has a fever and has been sick for over week, I wouldn't think of giving abx. It takes at least a week for the immune system to fully kick in and start fighting an infection fully. Also, treating a fever with acetaminophen or ibuprofen can prolong the illness since the purpose of fever is to kill any invading organism that might be making the body sick with heat.

When I click on that link for the flex pass I just get this thread again. Weird. I looked at that before and am not willing to pay that much, especially for something I don't really want to do. I really do not like amusement/theme parks. Also, I definitely would not do something like that without dh because I am such a baby about that sort of stuff. I need him to take care of me as well as the kids. lol.gif I can get a 3 day pass for Williamsburg, Jamestown and Yorktown for a lot less.
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The flex pass is a bit much....plus its for 7 days. And we aren't going that long so it seems a bit of a waste.

Does the multi-day admission ticket include Jamestowne or is that a seperate pass?  I'm confused by their site.  headscratch.gif

 

 

I agree, mw.  I might try garlic oil going forward.  Both kids had high fevers (well, moderate, 102-103.6) for 3-4 days prior to these, so we'll do abx.  Nora's is especially bad, the dr said.  Poor kid.  I knew it had to be bad for her to mention it.

Chris ended up coming with me to the dr.  Thank goodness he was able to!  It would have been difficult.  I don't know how I would do it w/o another lap/set of hands.

 

JJ - saw you had a rough night.  Just sending out love! love.gif

 

I'm definitely starting to feel sick myself.  Great.  It's gorgeous out!!  Boo hiss.

post #208 of 409
Let me look into the tickets again. I can't remember if I was looking at the Timeshare site, the Williamsburg site or some other discount site. I also keep meaning to check with the military ITT to see what deals they have. What site are you looking at?

Dr. Sears says that a fever even as high as 107, or maybe it's just under 107, is not dangerous and not always necessary for medical attention/treatment. You need to look at behavior more than the number of the thermometer. Check out his site for a list of concerning behaviors. Lethargy is one and he does a good job of explaining the difference between true lethargy and the normal tiredness that comes with illness. Kellen had a fever very close to, if not at, 104 for 2 or 3 days when we were at my mom's. I didn't give him anything because he didn't want it. I didn't take him to the doctor, either. The fever went away after a few days but he was still mildly sick for at least a week after.

Go outside if you can just to sit and soak up some sun, make some vitamin D! All you need is 15 minutes.
post #209 of 409
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Go outside if you can just to sit and soak up some sun, make some vitamin D! All you need is 15 minutes.

 

That's exactly what we are going to do!

 

Yes, I agree with you on watching the child rather than the fever.  Anything under 103 I didn't medicate.  Once Nora hit 103.6, her lids were droopy and she was crying and her skin hurt to touch.  A dose of Motrin brought it right down and she was up playing about 45 min later.  To me that's worth it.  

Again, you have to just use your own judgement, b/c one child's normal isn't another childs.

 

Finn is also teething so I knew his fever + teething was making him ridiculously frustrated and uncomfortable.  Once his got to 102 I did give him motrin.

 

I was looking at the plain williamsburg site, under ticket info.

post #210 of 409
I think this is where I was looking before for ticket prices. http://www.colonialwilliamsburg.com/plan/tickets/ticket-options/

I'm a little confused by the Bounce Ticket. I'm not sure if that's for only one day or more. I can't imagine being expected to do Williamsburg, Busch Gardens and Water Country all in one day. I thought there was something that covered 3 days but I can't find it now. Maybe it expired. I think I'd be most interested in the Historic Triangle Ticket.

The Williamsburg website says military get a 10% discount. If that's all, then I think the online price might be cheaper.
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I haven't ever given Motrin or Tylenol. It is isn't even in the house. It's not that I'm against it per se, but the times we've had a fever high enough to warrant it (for Gabe - 2-3 times so far) the fever was gone in less than 24 hours. We use peppermint oil - both applied and diffused in the air, which helps, and lavendar, which is good for physical pain and stress. For ears, Basil oil applied externally - this works very fast, in our experience.

 

Now, if one of them were miserable, and none of the things in my natural toolbox were working, Walgreens and Walmart are open 24 hours and about 10 minutes away  - which is why we don't have any in the house. espeically living with my parents (who aren't into overmedicating either - but  . . .) I like to not have it as an option.

 

the screaming/crying . . . I really wish I had a clue. When he calmed down enough to talk, he asked for a drink, but started crying again once it was offered. It took a long time to calm him down. This doesn't happen often, or hasn't, but when it does, it breaks me. Makes me want to cry and give up, but that's just not an option.

 

I think to some extent the consensual living the way to describe comes naturally. you want to make everyone happy. But sometimes there is no pleasing everybody, and then who gets priority?

 

I need to go soak up some sun.

 

Carrie  - hope the kiddos feel better soon!

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akind1, maybe he's overstimulated? What if you gave him a firm bear hug and gently rocked him, to help him recenter himself?

 

I want to go to Busch Gardens but dude, Ava is wearing me out right now. It's the combo of hardly any sleep, her teething so she's a big whiny mess and not walking yet so she wants to be carried everywhere. I just can't even fathom going right now. And I do wear her but when we're out, especially if we are with DH, she wants to go back and forth between the two of us. So re-wrapping her is a big PITA. Maybe she'll be walking by then. Or maybe she will miraculously decide her stroller isn't a torture device.

 

I know I talk about it all the time but Baby_Cakes you may want to consider adding probiotics to their daily routine to head off some of those infections.
 

post #213 of 409
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Lauri, holding him helps temporarily, but he starts screaming and crying again, and it's hard. I wish I knew what triggers it.

If you did a mei tai or buckle carrier, she could pass back and forth with less fuss. Just a thought. I don't know if I want to drag a stroller, but sometimes dude likes to ride.
post #214 of 409
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I want to go to Busch Gardens but dude, Ava is wearing me out right now. It's the combo of hardly any sleep, her teething so she's a big whiny mess and not walking yet so she wants to be carried everywhere. I just can't even fathom going right now. And I do wear her but when we're out, especially if we are with DH, she wants to go back and forth between the two of us. So re-wrapping her is a big PITA. Maybe she'll be walking by then. Or maybe she will miraculously decide her stroller isn't a torture device.

 

I know I talk about it all the time but Baby_Cakes you may want to consider adding probiotics to their daily routine to head off some of those infections.
 

 

Well we have time to decide!  I know she's a hot mess right now.  Finn is too and it's so hard for me to imagine going anywhere with him.  But, this too shall pass.  

 

I don't see why I don't just do that with probiotics.  

Do you guys give baby a multi?  I'm wondering if extra D would help in addition, or if the multi is enough.

 

AFM - I think I'm about to O.  My pelvis and my bits are so achey and sore, and CM has switched to very watery.  If it's not it, it's close to it, or gearing up.  

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Ava gets a little bit of breastmilk (probably 10 ml) with her probiotics powder and a drop of the Carlson D-Drops every day. I swear by it.

 

I need to look in to getting a mei tei or a buckle. I looked at the Infantino mei tei because it's cheap but I got mixed reviews.
 

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I've heard that from Dr.Sears about the 107 fever, but IMO that's just crazy. I totally get that a fever is a -good thing- and is the body's way of fighting off sickness, and I wouldn't treat a low fever unless it was accompanied by other behavioral upsets. But anything over 104 is a risk for seizure, and so I disagree that 105, 106 etc is nothing to worry about. I would probably medicate (fever alone) for anything over about 102. But it's also rare for a fever to get that high without accompanied behavior/discomfort.   That said, it does make me roll my eyes a bit when you get people who are like "She had a bad fever, I had to take her to the doctor and give tylenol", and then you find out if was like, 99.5... 

 

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I haven't ever given Motrin or Tylenol. It is isn't even in the house. It's not that I'm against it per se, but the times we've had a fever high enough to warrant it (for Gabe - 2-3 times so far) the fever was gone in less than 24 hours. We use peppermint oil - both applied and diffused in the air, which helps, and lavendar, which is good for physical pain and stress. For ears, Basil oil applied externally - this works very fast, in our experience.

 

Now, if one of them were miserable, and none of the things in my natural toolbox were working, Walgreens and Walmart are open 24 hours and about 10 minutes away  - which is why we don't have any in the house. espeically living with my parents (who aren't into overmedicating either - but  . . .) I like to not have it as an option.

Oh, you reminded me I should pull out my lavender. I haven't used it in a while, but we're at the end of our rope with bedtime, and I need something else to try. She already gets teething tablets every night before bed. We don't give the tylenol unless she's waking up thrashing and crying though. 

 

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I need to look in to getting a mei tei or a buckle. I looked at the Infantino mei tei because it's cheap but I got mixed reviews.

 

I've heard the infantino is a little bit cheaply made. We were talking about it in the babywearing group here a while back. I really like my babyhawk, and would definitely pay for it again. I'm also a big fan of the Boba right now. Have you checked on thebabywearer forums? If you're not crazy picky about prints like I was, they seemed to have quite a few babyhawks come up for pretty cheap. 

post #217 of 409
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Yeah, I think 107 is a bit much. The highest Gabe has gotten is like 104, and it came down within hours with just using EOs. He just seemed to want to sleep anytime he got a fever, and I thought that was probably what his body needed.

 

I hate seeing people medicate for low-grade fevers. ugh. And it sounds wrong on some level, but I also hate when people counteract what I'm doing with my children with, "but MY ped said . . ." bc honestly, your ped might be great, they might be a crackpot. I don't know. I do know they've never seen my child and aren't giving me advice.  I local friend asked about BLW and I said something about offering cheese, and she's like, the ped didn't say anything about cheese. I guess I just don't use pediatricians for that level of advice. Granted I didn't listen to my OBs list of foods I could and couldn't eat either. LOL

 

Infantino doesn't have a great rep as a company, and the stuff is likely not well made. IF you can sew, A friend has made some great Mei Tais from target tablecloths. (16.99 + labor = awesome)

 

This is a great price on a used Boba:

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1408332

 

A freaking awesome price on a buckle carrier, and I've heard good things about this brand

 

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1407464

 

A babyhawk:

 

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1409394

 

I did diaperswappers bc I don't think you need to register to see the links; TBW you do.

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Dude, maybe I'm just a wuss, but I woke up with a low grade fever this morning and tried so hard not to take ibuprofen, but I felt AWFUL.  I have to function!  In a perfect world, I would have let it ride, but I can't just lay on the couch all day.  LOL.  I'm feeling much better now.

 

Sad news, my bff miscarried.  guilty.gif  She seems ok...as ok as one can be.  But I still feel terrible for her and am sending her healing vibes.

 

In other news, another friend had an unplanned unassisted home birth today!  Exciting, and crazy.  All are well.

 

My fever today is def influencing my chart.  I don't agree with the dotted crosshairs at all...but I did have a bit of ewcm today and ovulation pains yesterday and still today.  Crazy.  It's like my body is an engine trying to turn over.

 

Chart.

post #219 of 409
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um, glad dtd with an x is protected! else, that would be possibly good timing. Also, I find it's great for TTA that I get migraines at O. who want to DTD then?

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um, glad dtd with an x is protected! else, that would be possibly good timing. 

 

LOL, yes!  Until I know my cycle better we are just using protection all the time.  No risking it!

 

Migraines are no fun.  Yuck.

 

Went for a lonnnng stroller walk.   It was too hot.  Enjoying the a/c a bit while we have lunch, and then we're just going to to out back and splash and play.  But it's HOT out there!!

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