I have had a very busy weekend and just haven't been able to keep up with this conversation. I don't know how the following "sounds", so please know that I am writing dispassionately and I am not trying to be inflammatory or offensive.
Originally Posted by Linda on the move
I think your comments are helpful in the thread, and the OP thinks so as well.
Originally Posted by moominmamma
But a tit for tat mentality doesn't serve a community like this well. Just because a homeschooler makes a divisive statement, doesn't mean school parents should up the ante. And while I understand how pigpokey's original post set a lot of people off, people have continued to quote it over and over, and have basically ignored what she wrote qualifying and retracting that statement (bolding mine).
Originally Posted by pigpokey
In reading what I wrote, I accidentally didn't write what I really meant. ..... What I meant is what you are describing ... forming relationships through activities, analogous to adult work (theater, sports, sometimes homeschool classes like Spanish half day programs or day long art schools), not necessarily just with other homeschoolers, but not really just with people you see in your communities, but in intentional communities that come together and break apart. Homeschoolers sometimes have more time to be in these multiple interest communities.
That doesn't seem particularly divisive to me. I just think that when someone accidentally, by their own admission, makes a divisive statement, that we have the option of responding in two ways: we can soften the divisiveness by seeking understanding, or we can draw us vs. them lines in the sand. I much prefer the former.
Linda, thanks for your supportive words.
To be clear, when I decided against writing anything further, it was my own decision. I wasn't discouraged by anyone. I realized that the OP originally asked for some practical input about academic enrichment. It seemed inappropriate to venture off on an abstract discussion about the history of schooling and childhood and communities and the culture and administration of modern schools. Which is where I was heading when I reconsidered.
However, I will say that I think it was entirely appropriate to respond initially, even though I don't think expanding into a lengthy discourse is necessary. I don't think that what anyone wrote was "tit-for-tat". If it does apply, then I'd say that inserting Gatto, Prussians and military and industrial interests into the thread seemed to "up the ante" and was not a response that was likely to soften any divisiveness.
In honesty, I find "tit-for-tat" an unfairly belittling way of describing this conversation. I realize that tone is difficult to interpret from written posts, so it probably wasn't intended, but to me, this sounds "schoolmarmish" (of all things!) and like a lecture to naughty children. And that is inappropriate. If a homeschooler makes an statement that is disagreeable or offensive, they can't expect that no one will engage in further discussion of the issues raised. There will be responses. Others will provide a different perspective - sometimes in a challenging manner. That isn't "tit-for-tat". That's dialogue, discussion, conversation. The same holds true when schoolers make statements that compel responses from homeschoolers. That's what happens in an open, honest, forum where the free exchange of opinions, ideas and information is nurtured and encouraged. It isn't always pleasant or comfortable. It shouldn't be, because sometimes hearing the truth is hard.
Anyway, I again find myself heading off-topic from the OP's request for help, so I'll stop there.
Unfortunately, I will be without internet access for a few days. I've tried to write this post as an expression of my feelings, impressions, and beliefs and, believe it or not, without rancor. If I've failed, then I'll be back in a few days to respond.