Originally Posted by Adaline'sMama
My child thrives on yes/no answers, "winning", being "right" and playing games where there is a right and wrong answer.
I'll ask my ped what she thinks. I got a preschool check list off of the internet and it seems that she is capable almost everything that is on the "most preschoolers can do this stuff by 4 years old" check list (not physically, she cant jump rope or do jumping jacks).
Speaking from a preschool teacher point of view, the right/wrong- perfectionistic tendencies are fairly typical for the 2-5 year old set. They really are rule , black/white, yes/no orientated. It is developmentally how they classify things- it has to fit into certain parameters. (Generally speaking of course) It is hard to explain things that fall in 'grey' area/exceptions to preschoolers!
Verbal kiddos also become experts at finding verbal loopholes to bargain WHY they are right/wrong. LOL. Though it can absolutely be emphasized by both personality and GT traits. So a perfectionist, type A personality kiddo that is GT can really really emphasis these traits. Laid back kiddos may not be as insistent on rules/ right or wrong, but still may be GT.
On the Pedi---- I would walk that discussion with caution. Most Pedis are not trained to look for GT kiddos. They are trained to look for kids that fall below the developmental guidelines.Plus a few vists a year are simply snapshots and not regular contact with a child. A shy child may not talk to a Pedi and be overlooked for both delays and advanced skills simply due to personality.
Some Pedis will be good resources and others will not. A good resource would be your local GT chapter or if your state has legislation- your school system when your kiddo turns 3. Preschool teachers and/or educational personnel that come into contact with your child on a regular basis might be good contacts.
Having used checklists--- they are usually what most kids at a certain age should be doing, so that 80-90% of kids have mastered that skill by that age. So for jumping jacks at age 4 (which seems an odd one to be honest) most kids will be able to do this at age 4, which means a large percent should master it at age 3. For developmental screening, kids that missed skills on checklists (such as cutting a somewhat straight line with scissors or standing on one foot for 5 seconds age 4) warrant further evaluation. Just to let you know- after doing evals on 3/4 yr olds for while. The basic preschool evals (DIAL-3, LOLLIPOP, Denver, Ages/Stages, etc) and checklists are valuable in that they let you know if a child is missing skills expected for a certain age, but aer not generally helpful in firmly identifying kids ahead of skills (a child who just met the skill will get the same check as the child that has mastered the skill a year or more ago).
FWIW my kiddos just learned to jump rope at age 6.5. They have always had an inbalance in physical skills/gross motor and cognitive/verbal skills.
Originally Posted by Adaline'sMama
Litmom- Thanks for the link! I am looking towards some kind of part time preschool programs. She is super social and likes to be around other kids. She showed signs early on, but I thought it was just "every kid is different" - not that she was particularly "gifted" or especially smart. Now she is just never satisfied for long- she often doesnt want to "play" she wants to do adult activites. She won't let us read to her.
Most kiddos at that age like to imitate adult activities! It is completely developmentally appropriate. You can easily have her help you fold laundry (count towels!), sort socks (great matching activity!), wipe down tables (good for building gross motor muscles in shoulders!), pick up, etc.
The drive for novelty is often a sign of advanced/intelligent kiddos as well. It is personality driven as well- but an outgoing child is often social and enjoys the novelty of people and interacting with them!
Our library has 'busy buckets' that you can check out that include a puzzle, activity, book, puppet, etc that are based on a theme. It would be a great way to keep novel things available for free! Also we used to rotate puzzles (put some away and bring them back out a few weeks later) to help keep things fresh. Large floor puzzles are also a lot of fun (and much easier to pick up!) and even if they know how to piece it together- the act of manipulating the large pieces is a different challenge than small pieces. Or puzzles with the locks/latches/buckles are great. There is a neat interactive puzzle at Target that has 12 different 'keys' to open doors- 3+ but a 2 year old with good find motor skills and an eye for detail could do it.
Remember, your DD is 2. She is still very young! You are still 'early on' from a chronological point of view. Attention span for this age is short, a long attention span would be more unusual than a short one. The 'dont let you read to her' is likely a phase- have you tried short books on tape? Or interactive books (since you said you have access to an ipad)? They are a lot of fun and a great option for kids that crave multi-sensory input.
Have you looked for a playgroup, music class, activity?? Our local library, zoo, museums, and parks all have multi-age activities that are educational and play-based for ages 2+. That would be great and appeal to your DDs social nature, have some academic components, and also provide enrichment. We dropped playgroups about age 3 due to differing parenting ideas and the group, but from 2-3 it was a nice outlet for field trips, park visits, and activities.
As far as testing: with the exception of testing/screening for delays (which can occur in GT kiddos as well- my two had/have delays at different points of their lives) most institutions/people will not test a 2 year old or even a 3 year old due to the inaccuracy of testing. I think that is likely why you did not get much information on testing.
I have found this group to be really non-snarky as a whole to be honest. I respect and appreciate that we all have different experiences and points of view but are all facing having kids that dont fit into traditional boxes and checklists. It really is a great place to bounce/gather/get ideas from parents who have been there. It is also been a great resource to really 'read' about different GT options, which vary so much by state/city/county.
Also personally, it is one of the few places I have found that has families that have/are going through the 2E process (a child that is both likely GT/advaced and also has special needs)- which has been invaluable for me as a source of support and information.
Welcome and I hope you find the information from everyone helpful- not snarky. It is often meant in a 'here let me share my experience' way not a ' THIS is how to do it'. Sometimes that may get lost in translation via internet.
Edited by KCMichigan - 6/19/12 at 6:22am