Healing advice for toddler (GAPS, homeopathy, or what?) - Page 2

[stik]

A 2yo with a history of intestinal bleeding DOES NOT need to detox. 

If months of diarrhea and intestinal bleeding didn't get whatever it is out of her gut, nothing you put into her gut now is going to do the job either.  You run the risk of irritating her intestines and causing bleeding again for no potential benefit. 

Plenty of fluids and a balanced, healthy diet will help her flush any toxins she encounters out of her body gently and naturally. 

[sosurreal09]

Why they were seizures- First Dr thought I was nuts and wrote her off as colic, thought diarrhea was nothing, even the blood in her stool (unseen blood which meant it was from the intestines according to GI) so I fired her.

Took a video (no longer have stupidly it's was on an old cell phone) and showed the 2nd Dr she thought it was mild seizures (I had no clue what it was) It was twitching and shrieking. My brother has a seizure disorder and he's only ever had seizures in his sleep. We were on a waiting list to get seen by specialists for it but they stopped happening when we stopped vaxing so there was nothing to test by the time we could be seen (there was 6 month waiting list)

We have been to 5 different mainstream MDs they say: blood=intolerances (which is bull) no longer happening ever at all and no diarrhea after we stopped vaxing.
 

everything else=colic (that lasts a year+?)

No one has ever thought anything of her being sick all the time except our current Dr who said it's vax related (he's a holistic ped MD)

Like I said mainstream medicine does nothing here...she would have been on abx like 200x by now if I depended on it....

She does get sick all the time but she looks healthy, has energy, seems fine unless you know her long enough and see sher gets a cold and it goes into a virus then an ear infection then croup and back to cold and goes away lasting a couple weeks KWIM?

She had a fever almost everyday of her infancy she was constantly sick after her 2m/o shots.

[sosurreal09]

Also she did have her PKU done so wouldn't that have ruled out auto immune stuff? I believe she is immunocompromised from the vax and her reactions. It can be very individual how ones body reacts to it.
 

[stik]

PKU testing rules out a small number of conditions that can be easily prevented/treated before they become symptomatic.  It doesn't rule out auto-immune issues. 

Twitching and shrieking can be normal, or not, and as she has outgrown them, it sounds like you can cross that off your list of worries. 

It's possible your dd would have been on antibiotics hundreds of times if you used mainstream medicine, but it's also possible she's had a series of infections that make her vulnerable to more infections and/or haven't entirely cleared up causing her serial illnesses.  She might have been on antibiotics 2-3 times (or 2-3 more times) and then have gotten healthier. 

Reflux can look like colic and can last a year or more.  It doesn't match anything else you have talked about, though.

She does get sick all the time but she looks healthy, has energy, seems fine unless you know her long enough and see sher gets a cold and it goes into a virus then an ear infection then croup and back to cold and goes away lasting a couple weeks KWIM?

I'm confused.  I've seen the cold/ear infection/croup cycle in my own kids, but I don't see kids who look healthy, have energy, and seem fine but are actually sick. 

[NotEnoughHands]

stik,

Where were you when my boys were younger? Your advice is sound, detailed and well researched.

Paula

[Imakcerka]

At this point So09, I'd be open to any possibility rather than sticking to one thing. 

We have been to 5 different mainstream MDs they say: blood=intolerances (which is bull) no longer happening ever at all and no diarrhea after we stopped vaxing.

That's not one Dr, with one opinion.  That's 5 different opinions.  I've had mainstream Dr's actually look into issues to consider if they were vax related.  Leading me to believe that mainstream doesn't mean they won't consider all options. 

[sosurreal09]

OK let me clarify a bit she was on antibiotics like ALL the time in her infancy when we saw mainstream Drs I started treating things homeopathically after she was a year old b/c I was sick and tired of her being on the abx.

I *know* it's confusing. She is bright and happy and wonderful full of energy but she gets sick and it lasts weeks it just does IDK how else to explain it. Even when she's sick as a dog she has energy and is generally happy now that she is older.

So infancy= a bunch of problems and always sick treated mainstream

toddlerhood= less problems still always sick treated mostly homeopathically but not always. (1st 3 ear infections were treated with abx after hib shot)

She eats a TON always has a snack for her is like 2 apples and a pear so I don't think she needs therapy I just don't think she's big on meat. I am trying my best to get her to eat it.

Have an appointment tomorrow with her Dr who is holistic but is also an MD and uses mainstream and holistic methods. Will see what he thinks about bruising/illness.

So as far as GAPS goes lots of people says it heals allergies. She has 6 food allergies and one household allergy. I don't see how her gut is healthy with all that bleeding she did besides improvements from probiotics.

As far as detox goes I was only thinking homeopathic detox not like something major.

I just don't know what to do. She has healed SO much but not fully. Her immune system is obviously crap despite my efforts to improve it.

Should we avoid acidic foods to heal the gut? There is so much info out there...

So I'm thinking I should have a list of questions for the Dr when we see him tomorrow?

What kind of Dr would specialize in an auto-immune disorder?

Thanks everyone BTW

Edited by sosurreal09 - 6/20/12 at 1:08pm

[sosurreal09]

Originally Posted by NotEnoughHands 

stik,

Where were you when my boys were younger? Your advice is sound, detailed and well researched.

Paula

No offense but this seems really weird and shady...and you joined yesterday?

[Imakcerka]

Well let us know what they say.  Hopefully everything can be figured out. 

[stik]

Two apples and a pear is somewhere between eight and twelve servings of fruit for a typical toddler. Fruit is great, but take a take a second to imagine how you would feel if you ate 8-12 servings of fruit in a sitting. Or heck, two apples and a pear. If anything is troubling her gut, that's probably it.

[sosurreal09]

Originally Posted by stik 

Two apples and a pear is somewhere between eight and twelve servings of fruit for a typical toddler. Fruit is great, but take a take a second to imagine how you would feel if you ate 8-12 servings of fruit in a sitting. Or heck, two apples and a pear. If anything is troubling her gut, that's probably it.

So what am I suppose to do, limit her food intake? I try to give her nut butters to dip in but she won't eat them.

[Imakcerka]

Yeah sometimes you have to limit it. My little one would eat 5 bananas a day if I let her. Or an entire bag of nectarines. I have to say no pick something else or offer her something else.

[stik]

I hate to ever say, "no, don't eat fruit" because most people don't get enough fruits and veggies. But yes, you need to limit her fruit intake and offer alternatives.  She is growing and developing normally, and she won't starve if you limit her to one piece of fruit at a sitting and offer a selection of whole grains, fats, and proteins as an alternative to the other two.  She's nearly three.  Offer some healthy choices, and if she won't take them, send her off to play until the next meal time - which shouldn't be too long.  Most 2yos should be getting three meals and three snacks each day.

If she's eating that much in a sitting, she IS really hungry, so it's a decent opportunity to get her some bread with nut butter, some yogurt, some tofu scramble, some chicken nuggets (I make a freeze my own when I have the time, but I don't have philosophical issues with the pre-made frozen ones), some breakfast sausage, a couple slices of deli meat, some pita bread with humus, or some non-fruit vegetables.  
 

[NotEnoughHands]

Umm.. sorry?

I'm not sure why?

Yes I joined yesterday.

I stumbled across it looking at items in the news on vaccine damage. I'm involved with lots of children (in the UK BTW) with autism and look at lots of articles and sites that think that vaccines cause problems, autism and otherwise. I wondered if my own younger son had vaccine damage for many years.

I'm sure if you ask admin they can verify by my IP address that I'm not Stik using another name to give myself praise. I think the term is sock-puppet.

I hope some of the advice you are getting is useful and effect.

My best wishes,

P

[stik]

There are a couple totally new posters in this thread.  NotEnoughHands, welcome to the board!

[sosurreal09]

Let's just say I am weary of trolls...MDC has had those issues many times...

So he ordered some immune system blood work as well as zinc and lyme disease. Have to get it done Mon. He said it is from the vax b/c her immune system responded to the vax in a non-typical way. Her immune response caused her reactions and her injured gut developed allergies and the allergies caused the constant illness. Many kids with allergies have an over and under active immune system or so it looks that way (which is exactly what mainstream ped told me) when it's really the underlying allergens.

So since her allergens are removed he said he was concerned with her duration of illness. He said she is probably borderline to having an auto immune disease but he doesn't think it's anything serious we will wait to see the lab work. Said she is still healing from all the reactions and havoc the allergens did to her system.

He's not worried about the bruising said it looked normal and the under eye circles where from allergies too. (he is an allopath but an allergen specialist as well) If anything it could be zinc deficiency.

[BabySmurf]

I would definitely look into the GAPS book. It's so informative! IT'S ONE OF THOSE BOOKS I THINK EVERYONE WOULD FIND USEFUL, IF NOT JUST INTERESTING. (SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, NEW PHONE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHUT IT OFF!) I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T TRY TO IMPLEMENT THE IDEAS ALL AT ONCE THOUGH. MAKING SUCH A BIG CHANGE WOULD LIKELY OVERWHELM BOTH OF YOU...INSTEAD START TRING TO add foods that will help better nourish, and then take away the ones that may cause problems (huh). I would try to limit the fruit a bit though...finding new ways to serve the same foods have helped me expand my son's diet. I was also surprised to find that he loves fermentd veggies, so so don't discount a food just because it sounds. Weird, kwim? I have been implementing some of the ideas, and it has already made a huge difference. At first I tried to make the change all at. Once, but it was too much. Of a lifestyle change and I failed. Not long after returning to my old diet, I became so much more reactive. Now I am trying again, but at a. Slower pace, and it's much more doable,and I just keep feeling better.

I don't know much about IgE allergies, but I think anything you can do to nourish and heal her gut should benefit her. And do get the book, don't try to just go on what you find online.

Good luck!!

[fransheffield]

Hi, I saw this thread pop up on Twitter and just had to say something about the dismissive comments on homeopathy. They are highly misleading either through ignorance or design.

Homeopathy is one of the most important things that can be done for children in this condition. When prescribed by someone who knows what they are doing with it, it helps a good 90% or more. It safely stimulates the body into a healthier state so it can start healing its own health problems. When this happens the food intolerances also improve or disappear. I have now seen close to a thousand children with ASDs, presumed to be from vaccine injury, and most with gut damage and immune problems, helped by homeopathy. Sometimes other biomedical interventions and dietary changes were helping prior to starting homeopathy, sometimes they weren't.

It is important to see someone qualified and competent homeopath in this area. Not to be dismissive of the competence MDs have in other areas but the vast majority do not have adequate experience or training in homeopathy and so end up prescribing "this for that" which will not give you the best results. Joining groups in which parents have used homeopathy will give you information on who is good and who isn't and you can hear of their experiences which are of more value than the negative opinions of those with no experience.

Apart from homeopathy, dietary changes (which it sounds as though you are already doing in part) make the biggest changes, especially a trial of gluten and casein free. GAPS is good. Then a lot of the specific food chemicals such as amines and salicylates can be looked at but honestly, good homeopathic treatment removes a lot of these problems.

All the best to you and your little girl.

[sosurreal09]

WHY would  this be on twitter?
 

[Imakcerka]

Because MDC twitters and FB. Brings in readership.