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swelling. already?!!

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

I am 15 weeks. I feel like I am swelling already and this is concerning. I know that I am probably not getting enough water and am going to REALLY get on it, but I am wondering if this is just normal Florida summer time swelling {Florida summers are TERRIBLE on pregnancy} or if it is already pregnancy related. It isn't super bad, but fingers, feet/legs, hands at the end of the day the last few days. 

Is anyone else experiencing swelling already?

 

post #2 of 17

Blargh!! I'm sorry you are going through this already.  

 

I had one morning of it and it was awful. I went home and upped my protein and salt, put my feet up, and it went away after a few hours. I had been out in 90 degree weather and had only had coffee to drink so far that day. I'm really trying to up my protein and start each day with a protein shake with at least 40grams of protein. 

Have you read at all about the Brewer pregnancy diet? That's what I'm trying to stick to for swelling, as it was common in both of my previous pregnancies and I just don't want to go there again. I'm really trying to be mindful of my protein intake and eat a lot! It's hard and I feel silly complaining about it. 

 

Here's a link for you if you haven't heard of this yet. Has anyone else used the Brewer pregnancy diet? Thoughts?

http://www.drbrewerpregnancydiet.com/

post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 

Yes, I have heard of the Brewer's Diet and had intended to follow it even though I am not a huge fan of meat or milk or eggs {ex vegan}, but I had issues with swelling last pregnancy and really don't want to go there again either. However, my family is in a pretty dire financial situation and unfortunately we just don't have enough resources to feed ourselves well these days. I have am def. not eating enough food and am feeling undernourished and my DD is, too, which is making things worse for me since she is nursing even more now. 
*sigh*
It is hard to follow the diet because it literally means that I am eating all the food that we have available to us and not much left over for hubs or DD. 
Trying to work on getting a garden up and growing--we just moved into a house with a huge backyard. Although our COunty doesn't allow backyard chickens, I am still going to try to get 2 or 3 hens to start laying for us in the fall. Hoping for some bunnies, too, but not sure if we are really gonna be able to do what it takes to harvest them....but this is our plan to start eating better and more food....it just is gonna take a few months to get established and in the meantime....ahh...I guess I'm gonna have to figure it out. I think the lack of nutrition is really taking a toll on us.

{we know about government aid and we receive all we are allowed, but it just isn't enough and/or it isn't foods that we find nutritious--WIC food is really not a huge help since DD is allergic to dairy and we are gluten free}

post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 

Plus, I am really not comfortable eating non organic meats and we absolutely cannot afford organic meats :(

post #5 of 17

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Edited by nhklh - 11/16/13 at 12:46am
post #6 of 17

Do you get food stamps?  Maybe look into any community programs your city might offer... I just found out the other day that a bunch of produce left over from the local farmer's market is given away every Sunday.  A friend of mine with six kids told me she got eleven boxes of produce, locally grown, for free.  Not sure where you live or if there's similar options, but I've lived here for six years and had never heard of this until now.  I know it's hard to get enough protein.  How do you do with lentils?  A major source of protein for me!  I make soup with carrots and some kale thrown in for nutrition and serve it over quinoa.  Cheap and lots of food.  Hope things get better for you.  I know WIC helps a little but not really much if you, like I, have issues with hormone laden milk, cheese, and eggs.  Hugs.

post #7 of 17

I've noticed a little bit of swelling at the end of warm days when I've been more active than usual. My wedding ring feels tighter than normal, the combo of some weight gain and a bit of swelling. Water, rest, and protien all sounds like a good plan.

 

Here's a link that breaks down the protien content of different foods -- http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=92 -- I think it's interesting to see that some come out higer/lower than I would have expected. Of course the top slots are animal protiens, but there are some novel plant sources in there as well. Like lentils I expected to see, but I wouldn't have thought dried peas ranked so high.

 

***animal protien trigger warning***

 

I so hear what you're saying about organic meat being out of reach cost-wise. There's actually a really cool new reality show here in the UK about a small-scale sustainable farmer (slash reality TV celebrity) who is trying to get free range meat (ok so not necessarily organic) into the biggest mainstream supermarket in Britan. I'm not sure if you can stream clips outside of the UK but here's the show's website -- http://www.channel4.com/programmes/jimmy-and-the-giant-supermarket -- anyway, it's been facinating to watch him try to come up with ways to mimic and price-match some top-selling conventional products (e.g. sausages, prepared chicken dishes, etc) using free-range meats. I've taken away some good reminders, like to use cheaper cuts (e.g. chicken thighs vs breasts, or better yet a whole chicken that will stretch all week) and to think outside the box as far as who can supply high-quality meat.

 

That would be awesome if you could have a couple of layers at your new home. Give it a go with the rabbits too, I say. Thinking about other sources of high-quality, affordable animal protien; do you or anyone you know hunt or fish? That's another way to fill a freezer in a weekend. And back to chickens, I know you said you're not a huge fan of eggs, but they are cheap (relative to meat), organic animal protien. I probably serve eggs for dinner at least once a week either as a fritatta, omelettes; or my personal breakfast-for-dinner favorite, "chilaquiles con huevos estrellados" (heat a couple cups of salsa in a saucepan with maybe a little bit of water or broth if it's a thick salsa, then add enough stale corn tortillas to sop up all the sauce...either toast them in the oven until they're cripsy or just use tortilla chips...simmer for a few minutes unitl the tortillas soften, then top with fried eggs...or scrambled if you prefer....and maybe some sour cream or plain yogurt and a little cheese too.) DS hates plain cooked egg but will gobble up an egg if it's part of french toast, pancakes, or custard.

 

Hope you're feeling less swollen this afternoon :)

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks ladies.

Yes, the $200 we have a month comes from food stamps. We used to get $500, but apparently we make too much now at $1200/monthly income for that much help. Blows my mind! and why they don't consider the pregnancy at all in that is really beyond me.

Yes, I know about using differnt cuts of meat, but still. With a budget of $200 total to feed the family monthly there is no room for meat at all--cheap cut or not :(
Yes, to organic eggs, but until we can provide our own we cannot afford those either. I just cannot see loading myself full of factory farmed, abx raised crap meat and it being healthy. I would love to just go back to my vegan ways, but it is so hard to eat enough calories that way as a nursing, pregnant mama with our budget restrictions, too. 

I am looking for a food pantry locally that offers healthy foods, but haven't found one yet.....
I did have a friend get some 'left over' produce for me from a stand, but I also am just not into eating rotten produce. I mean, it is really bizarre to me that this is what my family is dealing with. I don't feel like I am being ridiculous for not wanting to feed my family rotten food {donated food} or heavily processed junk {stuff at food pantry} or WIC's factory farmed, abx laden food. Neither of the choices really seem acceptable to me. 

*sigh*

My swelling def. seems related to the heat--we are way hotter than warm already with most days in the 90s temp with heat index over 100 and with a 3 year old I just cannot stay indoors ALL DAY LONG. However, I do believe that my restricted diet isn't helping things since even when I rest and lay down for hours I am still not passing all the swelling and some remains :(

I was mainly posting to see if others were swelling already, too and maybe that some of this was normal or if it really is all my undernourishment.....I need to ask my mom for money for food instead of buying me maternity clothes, which I am grateful for, but is less of a need than food! Things will change....eventually ; )

post #9 of 17

I am not having swelling but I am having a hard time feeling like I am getting enough protein.  I do eat meat, but can't afford 100% organic or free range all the time.  Our financial situation is not as hard as yours, but it's not good, either.  I think the problem really is (and maybe this is part of your situation, too) that the past 2 years have been really hard.  I came into this pregnancy with no reserves - of energy, money, or nutrition.  Yesterday it was pretty clear to me that my body NEEDED heme (from animals) iron - I craved a meatball sub all day, felt absolutely horrible until I ate some beef jerky I had as emergency at-a-birth-can't-eat-real-food supply, and finally gave up and went out to get the meatball sub for dinner, which I really can't afford.  I'm sure that meat wasn't high quality, but I'm also aware that I haven't had any diarrhea today after 2 - 3 days of that being pretty much constant.  I'm trying to think about ways to make sure I'm getting a *little* meat on a daily basis, preferably high quality, because I think my body really needs it, even if it comes with a side-cocktail of nastiness.  I'm also going to try to start some nutritive herbal teas soon.  I don't really do prenatals but my body needs support right now!

 

I wonder if you know anybody with chickens or could find anybody who would be willing to trade you something (massage!) for eggs.  My brother has chickens and give us eggs, which is awesome, because good ones are very expensive.  I feel much better if I eat 2 for breakfast, but had run out . . ..

post #10 of 17

I don't eat meat, but work hard to get my 70 grams protein each day.  I also get foodstamps - mine is $500, but it has to stretch for a 7 person family!  We definitely run out well before the month is over. 

 

Beans, the occasional egg, some cheese, tofu, milk, soymilk, whole grain breads - all have protein.  But when it comes to the end of the day and I find I haven't gotten enough, cottage cheese or greek yogurt are a quick fix.  It doesn't take more than a cup usually to make up the difference.  (cottage cheese is 31 grams to a cup and greek yogurt is 24)  What I should be doing is eating them throughout the day - I'm working toward that!

 

From what little I've read it's a combination of the importance of enough calories, protein and salt - when it comes to swelling.  So it's good to make sure to eat protein throughout the day - with each meal.  You need much more protein than your dd and even quite a bit more than your dh.  So if you can stand either cottage cheese or greek yogurt - both high protein foods - that might be a cost effective food for you to eat often and you could have a couple tubs of them that are just for you and not feel bad about it.  

 

But drinking water is good, too!  xox  

 

http://www.drbrewerpregnancydiet.com/id35.html

post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Mamabeakley View Post

I came into this pregnancy with no reserves - of energy, money, or nutrition.  

(OP sorry to get off topic here)...


Mamabeakley, thank you. That is the perfect way to describe this pregnancy. I can't seem to embrace it and find all the joy in it that I have the other pregnancies and you just summed up how I have been feeling but hadn't really been able to find the words to describe! We have just had some more setbacks this week and I just don't see things getting much better anytime soon and the thought of adding another baby to the mix is just exhausting me emotionally!

I am sorry you started out your pregnancy with low reserves too but I am glad someone else gets this!! hug2.gif

post #12 of 17

Oh, yes, I get that.  My second pregnancy was kind of like this, too, although I don't think my physical reserves were as low (but my oldest was much more demanding, at 18 months when I got pg, all by himself, than all 3 are now!)

 

Today I bought a 1 lb package of low-toxicity beef, which I plan to cook and split up into small portions for me to eat like medicine!  Also small amounts of nettle and RRL.  I used some herbs and didn't like them last pg but I can't remember what I didn't like, so I'm going to try one at a time until I figure it out.  Total cost = about $10.  And if I bought conventional beef it would be a lot cheaper. I hope it helps.

post #13 of 17

mamaharrison, hope you're feeling less swollen this week. Re-reading my earlier reply, I apologize if it came off as condescending. It sounds like you're in a tougher spot than I had imagined.

 

At the risk of being unhelpful, I want to share a visualization I've found to be comforting this pregnancy. I have asthma and can control it 100% with regular acupuncture and TCM herbs, but none of that is in the budget these days. That's left me dependent on (free) prescription inhalers, which really bums me out...but not being able to breathe is a bummer too. So when I take my inhaler I put my hand over baby and picture a beautiful veil that will separate him/her from the chemicals I'm about to ingest, and I tell him/her that I must do this for us and that s/he is protected and will only benefit. There's probably not a medical journal around that would back me up on the effectiveness of this practice, but I know visualization is powerful so I really do believe it makes a difference.

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by cieloazul View Post

mamaharrison, hope you're feeling less swollen this week. Re-reading my earlier reply, I apologize if it came off as condescending. It sounds like you're in a tougher spot than I had imagined.

 

At the risk of being unhelpful, I want to share a visualization I've found to be comforting this pregnancy. I have asthma and can control it 100% with regular acupuncture and TCM herbs, but none of that is in the budget these days. That's left me dependent on (free) prescription inhalers, which really bums me out...but not being able to breathe is a bummer too. So when I take my inhaler I put my hand over baby and picture a beautiful veil that will separate him/her from the chemicals I'm about to ingest, and I tell him/her that I must do this for us and that s/he is protected and will only benefit. There's probably not a medical journal around that would back me up on the effectiveness of this practice, but I know visualization is powerful so I really do believe it makes a difference.

I find myself doing the same thing, only with prayer. I envision God protecting this LO from any harm when I have to do something I hate (like take a Tylenol because I absolutely can not take care of my other children with such a severe headache). It does make me feel better and I agree.....I'm sure the medical journals would just call us quacks! ROTFLMAO.gif

post #15 of 17

That's so lovely about the inhaler visualization.  It might also help you to know that in my last pregnancy, when I was having to take a lot more doses of inhaler than I was happy about (my asthma flares up with any kind of virus and my lungs are where any kind of grief shows up, and I had the flu and my grandfather in law died in the month before DD was born) - asthma medications are in the same class of drugs as the medications that they give mamas who are in pre-term labor to stop labor.  Not that that makes them non-toxic and wonderful, but whatever they are doing functionally in the body in relationship to the uterus/baby, it's probably not damaging (in the short term, anyway.)

post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cieloazul View Post

mamaharrison, hope you're feeling less swollen this week. Re-reading my earlier reply, I apologize if it came off as condescending. It sounds like you're in a tougher spot than I had imagined.

 

At the risk of being unhelpful, I want to share a visualization I've found to be comforting this pregnancy. I have asthma and can control it 100% with regular acupuncture and TCM herbs, but none of that is in the budget these days. That's left me dependent on (free) prescription inhalers, which really bums me out...but not being able to breathe is a bummer too. So when I take my inhaler I put my hand over baby and picture a beautiful veil that will separate him/her from the chemicals I'm about to ingest, and I tell him/her that I must do this for us and that s/he is protected and will only benefit. There's probably not a medical journal around that would back me up on the effectiveness of this practice, but I know visualization is powerful so I really do believe it makes a difference.

I didn't find your responses anything but helpful and polite, mama ; )
I appreciate your advice and your kindness very much--all of you mamas included.
I was having some really hard days and was probably not coming across very polite myself--just scared and upset and nervous and really feeling like I was at a loss for how to keep our health intact, but I do know that everything is in Divine Perfection and that panic or anger won't change circumstance for me. So, I am reaching out locally for more help and just learning to feed myself food--even if it isn't the quality that I think it should be, if it is real food then it is now OK for me to ingest. Started making my DD smoothies and freezing them and so she eats 'hopsicles' all day long and even though it isn't a ton of calories, it is a ton of nutrition. Much better than plain rice, which is what she was eating all day--a bit more expensive, but it will just have to work out somehow, right.

I do know the power of visualization and the efficacy of using all of our senses to create wellness for ourselves and our children and so I have decided that this bump in the road will not derail our health and that we will make it through this challenging time and return to eating our usual diet when our finances allow, even if that is a few years, we will remain strong and healthy and do our best until then.

thanks mamas.

still swelling a bit, but I think this just may be what my body does during pregnancy and as with all other symptoms it is happening earlier with this pregnancy than with my DDs. 

post #17 of 17

I love it, "hopsicles"! That's adorable.

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