Infertility ONE Thread GRADUATES!!! - Summer 2012 - Page 8

[kparker]

Nothing new here, just misery and hugely pregnantness and lame overnight ctx that drive me insane waaahhh

[SilaMarila]

Hope - I do know for a fact that Gemmine had her baby girl! One the 1st or 2nd I believe...

Monkey - My DS was tongue tied and my pediatrician refused to cut it (so did my midwife) because he wanted to see if it would resolve it self. He did not have trouble latching though and had such a strong suck that it stretched itself out. He is 3 now and speaks very clearly. I'm glad it was an easy fix for you! DS was also lip tied. It wasn't enough to create a gap between his front teeth and he busted it himself when he was about 2.

Kparker - Hang in there!

Chica - You too!

Just lurking like tfairy in hopes that one day I'll be here.

[wissa19]

I should be doing something else, but I'm going to try and take a few minutes to update just a little.

Gozal - So sorry you've been without power (and internet on/off).  That sounds like a very big challenge with newborn twins and a five year old!!  Can't wait to hear more from you when things settle a bit.

Monkey - Baby bird is just too cute!  Glad to hear the tongue tie thing can be fixed and was found early!!  I totally understand what you mean about wanting baby to take a bottle!  (Honestly, I found bottle feeding so much easier than breastfeeding)  My little sweet pie will not take formula from a bottle, but will take breast milk...which is nice if I ever had the time to pump (i.e. if she wasn't attached 24/7).  I would love to be able to give a her bottle when I'm out with DS...breastfeeding in public with him is just possible.  

AFM - It's been 4 weeks since I had my little girl.  As far as birth stories go mine is pretty routine, which is nice after all the fun I had with DS.  We went ahead with the scheduled c-section at 40weeks2days.  I was 2cm, 80% and 0 station for 2 weeks (by comparision I was at 3cm @ 38 weeks with DS)!  It looks like I never went into labor because she was so big and lodged into one of my hips!  That last week contractions would cause sharp shooting pains down that leg and the side of her face looked a little squished.  So at 9lbs 6oz. I'm fairly glad we didn't VBAC. 

One thing is that after infertility I can say I have one good gene...I carried a 9 lb. baby and didn't have any stretch marks!!  Yeah, I know hate me. 

This c-section was much better than my last. I was able to get to my room quickly this time!  It was such a relief and recovery has been going very well.

DS loves her...I mean loves her and wants to know when we are having more babies.  (We're Not!)

Breastfeeding is going well.  However, I have to admit I really don't enjoy it and I'm constantly saying I'm going to transition her over to a bottle.  She doesn't like formula so my plans are....  

More later...and I know I need to edit. ;)

[monkeyscience]

wissa - Yay for at least a partial update... totally know how that goes! Glad your little girl came out all right and is thriving. How cute about your DS! So far no progress on the bottle front for Baby Bird, though I admit I haven't tried much. I asked the speech pathologist what would have happened if we had tried bottlefeeding him from the beginning, wondering if he would have adapted to that as he apparently has to breastfeeding. She said, and I quote, "He would have had a really hard time. Really hard." So I am very grateful that I went into pregnancy planning to breastfeed. I hate to think of my little Baby Bird not being the chubby, healthy, HUGE little one he is now.

AFM... seriously... SIX pregnancy announcements in under a week. SIX. Why do these still get to me?!? Also, we had the tongue and lip tie revisions done... but the speech pathologist isn't sure they clipped his tongue tie enough. I'm going to cry if he has to have that done to him again. It was over fast, but it was absolute torture to watch what they did to my poor little baby, and to hear him scream. 5 minutes later, he was smiling again, but I was traumatized! He does seem to be doing better with the mouth exercises, and he's doing better with the pacifier. Not sucking on it, exactly (in fact, he seems to have taken to sucking on his own tongue since the revision), but keeping it in his mouth a little better. Plus, he is making serious strides in hand coordination, so he can help hold it in his own mouth just a tiny bit. I'll have to see if I can upload a video of him playing with his toy that we've dangled from the light fixture. He loves it!! We're also starting to suspect he is left handed. Only time will tell! He will be three months on Sunday. Not sure where all the time is going!

[kparker]

Trying to make this quick while Daddy has a sleeping baby -
 

Due date was the 17th, this coming Saturday. Went into labor last night around 6pmish. Contractions were instantly 1-3 minutes apart, lasting 45 sec to 5 minutes! Called the midwives, called the doula. Doula arrived and was only with us at home for maybe half an hour before we decided we needed to go tot he birth center.
 

Car ride was horrible! Got to birth center around 8-9pm? I was only 3cm. Had to be at a 4 to stay. They prepped the birthing room, took 30 min, and by the time they were done with that I was 5cm. Wanted to labor sitting, like on a toilet or birthing stool. Felt the best. Sadly, it was NOT the best for Guy, and his heartrate dropped dangerously low in those upright squatty positions (like, lower than mine, low). I had to labor in really uncomfortable for me ways (head down, all fours with butt in air, for one) but baby loved it.
 

In the end I only labored for 7-8 hrs total. We had to accelerate pushing, with a lot of pulling and stretching from midwives, after water broke. Was at a 9cmish when it broke, and he'd already pooped in there. Heartrate started being bad again, and I was running out of fuel because I kept vomiting everything that came near me. :(
 

I went down to 7cm after water broke, they had me labor a bit longer before the massive pushfest. Apparently I got so red my husband was terrified. I also have broken capillaries all over my face and chest :( In the end, got him out, 1:16am. He was 8lbs 9oz, 21 inches long. All natural. Not so sure I'd recommend that after the fact ;P
 

Nursing is HARD but otherwise we're all good.

[monkeyscience]

Congrats!! Sorry labor was so tough and crazy. Glad you both made it through, and very impressed you posted so quickly. Hope you can get some good rest!

[hope4light]

Sila - thanks for letting us know about Gem!!

wissa - I can't believe it's been a month already!  Glad everything went smooth and that you're happy with your decision to do a C versus trying for a VBAC.

monkey - I'm sorry.  They never stopped getting to me either after my first.  I keep wondering if it'll be better this time around since we never wanted more than 2, but I don't know.  It may be the issue of just having dealt with IF, you know?  Poor kiddo, I hope it doesn't have to be done again!!!  My DD has sucked on her tongue since birth, and at just over 2 she still does it.  It's SO cute and I can't quite figure out how she does it LOL.  She does it most when she's tired.

kparker - congrats!!  I'm sorry labor was tough, but glad you made it through it and out the other side with a healthy, adorable baby boy!!!

[wissa19]

kparker - Congratulations on an adorable little boy.  So glad that you were able to get him out even it was a little crazy.  I'm sure the low HR was scary!  BF is hard!!  It's a full-time job and it will take you a while to figure out you little one and what you are doing...   :)  Yeah, for more healthy babies!

[toothfairy2be]

Congrats Kparker! He is so cute!

[wissa19]

Gozal - How are you doing?  I can imagine how busy you are with 2!

Rena - I saw the pics of your 2 most adorable babies on the other thread.  They are beautiful.

Hope - Thinking about you...stalking your posts over in the IVF thread

Monkey & Chica - I can't imagine flying with a baby.  What brave women you two are!!  

AFM - I did baby girl to take a bottle of formula.  I found one she likes.  Apparently, Enfamil is notorious for bf babies to not like.  Do any of you know when they start to feed to for less time at each feeding?  DS was and DD is a very long nurser.  At 40 to 60 minutes a feed that basically all I do.  It makes it difficult to get ready or go anywhere.  Plus, when I'm out in public I can't nurse for 60 minutes with DS (4 yr old that thinks he's a super hero!).   So, I'm thinking that what I would like to do is on occasion is nurse for 20 minutes then give her bottle when I'm short on time...Anyone know if that would work without affecting my milk supply?    I've done it a couple times and it seems to work.  So, far she hasn't shown any preference for the bottle after wards.  

I would also like to know how much she weighs, but we've moved up to 3 month clothes so I know she is growing.  :)

She is also sensitive to foods that I eat and the irony is that I now basically can only eat the foods the I stopped eating when trying to get pregnant.  I'm not sure how long I can live with this bland diet.  It's fall and I want a bowl of Chili!!  

And a picture of baby girl...

Edited by wissa19 - 11/19/12 at 6:32pm

[gozal]

So much to say...I'm going to try to at least start!

Wissa - baby girl is amazing! Congratulations! Your updates make me smile so much. I am always thinking back to when we first got pg finally finally and now these beautiful babies... How wonderful to hear you a much better experience with the c/s! And your DS is too sweet. I think your supply should be fine at this point with supplementing, but I never had supply issues so I don't tend to sweat them. It's funny, everyone seems to think I'm a hero (or crazy) to be EBFing twins but honestly I'm just lazy! I mean, I totally believe in it etc.etc. but personally I find it sooo easy and bottles so hard. I am totally impressed that you are out & about. Today will be my first time taking the babies out by myself, yikes. (I have topick up DS from school.) Eek about bland foods. Do you have an LC you can ask about it? Maybe she will outgrow it by the end of the "4th tri"? How are you adjusting to being a mom to 2? Getting any sleep?!

kparker - Congratulations on your little gnome! How sweet is that hat & all his other beautifully made clothes? Sorry to hear about all the stressful parts of your l&d but seriously, good for you! BF really is hard in the beginning. Usually at 6w pp or so you start getting payoff IME..I hope that is the case for you!

...I'm going to post this for now & be back to write more as soon as I can!!

[renavoo]

Monkey, Wissa and kparker, AWWWW SO CUTE!!

Wissa, i ended up having to give up dairy for my baby girl so i totally know what you mean. I used to drink a gallon of milk a week! I miss it so much. haha it has been 5 months, my husband, my mother and his mother are BEGGING me to stop pumping for the babies because they think it's exhausting me. Which it is. But I still want to do it so I'll do it until I don't. I won't feel bad when I don't pump anymore but I'll continue until my heart and brain tell me it's time to stop. (Colin was never a good latcher so I couldn't breast feed both so i've been pumping since the beginning)

Gozal, can't wait for the update!

Monkey, ugh I totally get what you mean about STILL being jealous about announcements. I think it's because I think that the people probably didn't have to go through what we did in order to get pregnant. But then I look at my little babies and all is well again :o) But that initial jealousy...totally understand that!

Cait and Sila still looking forward to your BFPs. They are coming soon!!

Crazy here but just wanted to let you all know that I was thinking of you/ :oD

[wissa19]

Gozal - I wouldn't say I'm really out and about...Church, DS to from preschool, a couple of trips to the grocery store & doctors office.  It's hard to get out, but I have to or PPD will set in with me.  Oh, and I actually did take baby & DS to the park the other day when the weather was nice.  We couldn't stay long, so of course DS had fit when I told him it was time to go.   I do think your crazy to BF twins, but ya know whatever works!  I can't imagine BF twins, but I can see where if BF comes easy for you it could be easier than bottles.  The cost of formula for two would be insane and if you don't have a dishwasher you would spend the the time you weren't BF washing bottles.  

(That said bottles are way easier for me because I have a dishwasher, it would allow me to get out more & someone else can give the baby a bottle while I sleep.)  ;)    

How is your DS doing?  Did you make it on your first outing with the twins?  Is your MIL still hanging out?

Rena - Yep. Milk is on my list of Do Not Eat and I am milk person too!  I have actually started trying new foods to see what happens.  I had some ice cream the other day and nothing...   I did read that some babies will out grow the milk thing at 3 months or 6 months...  Pump until your heart tells you to stop, but know your babies are fine either way!  My DS did just fine on formula -- never sick (maybe because he got the BM to start out?).  I pumped for a while with DS, but I could never pump a lot and after a while it didn't make any sense to continue.  This time I'm not interested in pumping.  Maybe I'll try later when the baby will hopefully go longer between feedings???

& I agree I do still get the jealous thing about other women being pregnant.  I totally don't get it because I really am happy for them and wouldn't wish IF on anyone. 

[rcr]

Wow, I haven't been here in a few months - and look at y'all - having babies, posting cute pictures! I love them all!

OK, back to stalking.

[wissa19]

Hi RCR - I still try to stalk you...

AFM - O.k. I'm feeling like a bad mother or something.  For whatever reason I just don't like breastfeeding.  Technically breastfeeding is working and I'm not sore or anything most days, but I just can't seem to enjoy it.  I don't know that going to bottles would give more time, yet...   I really just don't know what to do!!  I feel guilty for going to the bottle and guilty for breastfeeding out of guilt.   Ugh...Maybe I'm just sleep deprived.  

Oh and baby girl will not be put down to sleep.  However, I can put her down when she is awake and she is very happy to sit, coo and look at things.  I'm so confused. 

[kparker]

wissa - I don't like breastfeeding either. The pain has subsided somewhat, but I just despise it. I wish I didn't. Guy's gaining wonderfully and LOVES the time we have together but I can't seem to stop counting the minutes until he's all done and back to sleep and off of me :(

[monkeyscience]

I don't love nursing, either. It's not so much the actual act (at least not now that we got the whole lanolin/disposable nursing pad causing dermatitis thing sorted out) as just the time factor - it seems like all I ever do. I do like the huge grin he gets on his face sometimes right before he latches on, and sometimes I do like the sleepy nursing baby snuggles. And I'm glad he's gaining and so strong and healthy. He still can't take a bottle, and seems to have actually moved on to rejecting it on principle, which is pretty frustrating considering the amount of money we've sunk into speech therapy. I still feel very blessed that he is successful at breastfeeding, since most babies with his issues struggle with both breast- and bottlefeeding.

Alas, he also has his first cold, which he got from dh. Of course that had to coincide with a roadtrip to a friend's wedding. Yeah, not a fun weekend at all. But at least he's back to eating somewhat normally!

[wissa19]

Thanks ladies it's nice to know I'm not the only one struggling with the "freedom" issues that come with breastfeeding.  We are still going for now...My goal was only for 6 weeks.  I know lofty goal, but I feel like I've done something because I've made it to 8 weeks. ;)

More later...

Monkey - I'm sorry your lo is not gong along with your plans to intro the bottle.  I gave little girl one as soon as most say it's ok to do so without harming your milk supply.  I've been told if you wait too late the babies get stuck in their ways...They know what they want!!  It is awesome that your baby bird has done so well BF with the tongue tie issues.  

kparker - I understand exactly you what mean by watching the clock.  It's best in the first weeks to just throw the clock out because as soon as he hits that first growth spurt he'll be attached 24/7.   Set a small goal and if by that time you still feel this way maybe try giving a bottle.  I'm not saying don't BF...I'm just saying don't do it the point that you can't enjoy your baby.  If mommy's not happy no one is happy.  

[chicajones]

He's here! I will post a longer birth story later, but Charles (Charlie) Marlin Jones was born at 8:46pm on 12-12-12. 6lbs 8oz and 21.25in long. We were at home for 36 hours of labor. After four hours of pushing and no progress after the last two hours, we had to transfer to the hospital where he was delivered 20 min later after a small episiotomy. Not thrilled about the cut or the transfer, but almost all of our labor was at home and we had a natural, drug free birth. It feels a little bittersweet that we didn't get our home waterbirth, but we were at home for 99% of the birth with my wonderful midwife and doula, and I am happy with the experience as a whole. Breastfeeding already going wonderfully and we're all doing great!

[monkeyscience]

Congrats! He is beautiful! He must be a skinny little boy, being so long and light. Enjoy holding him while he's too small to hurt your back! Sorry you had to transfer, but glad you were able to get him here safely with only a minor intervention. from personal experience - if your stitches aren't gone in a couple of weeks, have your mw check them. Dissolving stitches don't always dissolve, and it messes with healing if they don't.

Excited to hear more when you have the chance! (Hoping to hear more from our other mamas soon, too, and to have SSB join us when she's ready!)