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post #81 of 123

Saw my m/w yesterday and we're wondering a little about twins. I'm still measuring several weeks ahead. She couldn't get the h/b with the fetoscope so she used the doppler and actually had a really hard time getting one. She didn't look for another h/b since she doesn't like to use the doppler for long. She said we'll wait and see! I see her again in 5 weeks. I usually go 8 weeks between at this point, but she didn't offer that. Makes me wonder, haha!

post #82 of 123

Ooh I'm curious for you! Twins are certainly in the air around here.

 

I see my midwife this Thurs.

post #83 of 123

I went to my first ob appointment on Thursday and I thought the dr was really nice and sweet and spent lots of time with me. 

 

However I am appalled that she recommend that I get induced by breaking my water before I go into labor on my own,

 

Just in case I don't make it to the hospital in time, because I had one of my kids on the way to the hospital in the car. 

 

I told her I might do a home birth, although I know I'm doing a home birth.  I just didn't want her to drop me as a patient. 

 

I just love feeling the baby move all the time.  I have a very active baby that loves to kick me in the bladder.

post #84 of 123
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Originally Posted by Amor Rays View Post

I went to my first ob appointment on Thursday and I thought the dr was really nice and sweet and spent lots of time with me. 

However I am appalled that she recommend that I get induced by breaking my water before I go into labor on my own.

Glad the doc was a nice one!

And I'm glad you know that her recommendation of breaking your water artificially is a ridiculous one.
post #85 of 123

Both my back-up OBGYN and my Midwife are really used to dopplers and my home birth plan is really to only check the heartbeat every so often with a fetoscope. Since my midwife only has the little horn shaped one you have to use with your face right up to the belly (and I can tell she's not really planning to use that at the birth) I figured I'd invest in something a little easier so I can offer a solution along with my birth plan wish. I finally settled on getting this one: http://inhishands.com/Allen-Fetoscope.302  It arrives in a few weeks. Hoping it works for everyone! I was thinking my husband and I can play with it and see how well we can monitor the heart beat ourselves too. Anyone else had to convince a midwife or Dr to use a fetoscope at their birth? Any tips on presenting that plan?

post #86 of 123
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That is the type I have at home (someone loaned it to me) and the type my mw uses during labor.  I think mine is a cheaper quality, though.  It's SUPER uncomfortable in my ears.  

I didn't have to do any convincing, it's just what she brought with her.  

Do you feel like she's been open to other suggestions you have in regards to your birth plan?  Hopefully she'll just be willing to try it out a bunch before the birth so she'll be comfortable using it in labor.

post #87 of 123
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That is the type I have at home (someone loaned it to me) and the type my mw uses during labor.  I think mine is a cheaper quality, though.  It's SUPER uncomfortable in my ears.  

I didn't have to do any convincing, it's just what she brought with her.  

Do you feel like she's been open to other suggestions you have in regards to your birth plan?  Hopefully she'll just be willing to try it out a bunch before the birth so she'll be comfortable using it in labor.

 

All her other suggestions and things she's offered to bring have been right on track for us, it's just this one thing we seem to differ on. Since she used to work in the Parisian hospital system I think she's just a little more used to people casually accepting the monitors, scans and dopplers than we are. My plan is to print out the Ina May Gaskin chapter on dopplers where she talks about monitoring without them so she can read what I've been reading and have her try out my fetoscope at our next meet-up in 4 weeks time. Here's hoping! 

post #88 of 123

My MW is more into the fetoscope so I'm assuming that's what she'll use during labor, but I'm putting on my list of Q's to ask!

post #89 of 123
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My MW is more into the fetoscope so I'm assuming that's what she'll use during labor, but I'm putting on my list of Q's to ask!

my midwife prefers the fetoscope, and did use it during both labors.  i think it's harder to convince a midwife who DOESN'T use a fetoscope to want to use one.  but she would listen between contractions every 15 min or so, and i was dozing and it never was a complication or inconvenience.

post #90 of 123
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My appt went well today and baby was head down, yay! My mw says there is still plenty of room to move, so I'll keep checking on him/her.
Will do one more visit with her at 36 weeks and order the birth kit at that time and then we'll just be waiting for things to start.
post #91 of 123

My midwife uses a fetoscope during pregnancy as soon as she can get the h/b with it (usually by 24 weeks), but uses a doppler during my labors. I'm personally glad, because I don't think I could stand the pressure of the fetoscope on my lower stomach during labor. 

post #92 of 123

this doesn't really go here. but it fits, in a way.

 

we're first-timers, my husband and i, as are all the other couples in our birthing class.

 

we went over what amount of narcotics, epidurals, and intervention that we want for our birth at last night's class. 

i was APPALLED at how many women want to not feel anything at all. it's not called "happy fun time" it's called "labor" for a reason. 

i wanted to yell at them all. maybe i'm hormonal, but i just don't understand these women and it makes me so sad.

we want a natural birth (though we will be in a hospital) and no pain meds, whatsoever. we're preparing ourselves like it's not an option, so that it's not an option.

am i alone in this? how did other moms feel when they were pregnant with their first?

post #93 of 123
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Originally Posted by kellybeth View Post

this doesn't really go here. but it fits, in a way.

 

we're first-timers, my husband and i, as are all the other couples in our birthing class.

 

we went over what amount of narcotics, epidurals, and intervention that we want for our birth at last night's class. 

i was APPALLED at how many women want to not feel anything at all. it's not called "happy fun time" it's called "labor" for a reason. 

i wanted to yell at them all. maybe i'm hormonal, but i just don't understand these women and it makes me so sad.

we want a natural birth (though we will be in a hospital) and no pain meds, whatsoever. we're preparing ourselves like it's not an option, so that it's not an option.

am i alone in this? how did other moms feel when they were pregnant with their first?

me!  me!!! pick me!  

 

i went 16 hours w/ unmedicated back labor with my first just because i didn't KNOW that wasn't what labor was and that i was supposed to not be able to handle it.  i didn't get pain meds until after i got pitocin.  which is evil.  if you get pitocin, get the epidural, especially if it's back labor.  looking back, i had all the signs of a posterior baby, and labor, and no one addressed it.  i wanted to be there in labor, and i don't regret any choice but the pitocin.  

 

I will pitch in with lots of us mamas here are having our 4th and 5th babies, and many are AT HOME.  i was grateful for the epi on my first as i couldn't have relaxed and dilated without it, but the rest of the birth process was part of the complication.  I do think how you think of the pain before labor plays a huge role in how you respond to it when it comes.  my last birth, i was so excited about birth that the pain never really registered.  yes, it was hard, yes it was work, and yes there was pain (though i hesitate to call it such b/c i would NOT compare it to having a knife ripped through me or any other things women i know who got drugs described their pain to be) but it was at the same time the most painful thing i've ever done, and yet, not that bad.  

 

going in together, prepared and willing to face labor and with a good birth support team is key.  you can do a natural birth in the hospital (i did with my second) but staying home as long as possible (actually checked out and went BACK home and then did a midnight ride after my water broke and i was in transition), and being united against drugs (haha) are 2 things that can make that more likely.  having a coping mechanism w/ the pain is also important.  i didn't learn any single method of birth (Bradley, Lamaze, hypnobirthing) but have ended up with a meditative approach to pain similar to hypnobirthing that allowed me to release the pain and not get trapped in fear and dread of the next contraction.  many women choose drugs instead of the other approaches.  they truly believe that birth is unbearable to them and that they need drugs.  once that belief is in place, very few women can get past the fear and anxiety and NOT have a painful birth.  but that said, if you are willing to face the labor and truly believe that you can handle it, then i am with you and believe you can!  and i will also say it's beautiful, it's intense, it's amazing, and i'm actually looking forward to it again.  joy.gif

post #94 of 123

I was definitely more judgmental about natural labor (and parenting stuff in general) when I had my first. But now that I'm further along on the mom journey and have heard so many birth stories and am connected with other moms I've changed my tune. Not every woman wants a natural labor. I of course believe that intervention free labors are (most of the time) the best for mama and baby. But some women just plain don't want to experience that! And it's their body and their experience and should be supported in how they want to labor. The only grey area for me is the issue of educated consent. I wonder how many women (who may sway a little more mainstream) really know what risks are involved with various interventions and also with c-sections or if they just trust their OBs to "know best". And of course as much as you plan for a natural labor, sometimes things tend to go haywire (like my first birth that ended in c-section) so it's good to be flexible in your mind just so that you don't experience depression over your birth experience (as I definitely did).

post #95 of 123

And by flexible I don't mean that you shouldn't go into labor being deadset against drugs-- I actually recommend that strategy! I just went into my first birth thinking that if I had a c-section I was an abject failure, and then it happened, and that was hard to get over.

 

HouseofPeace I also CANNOT WAIT to labor again. My natural VBAC with my younger son was the best experience of my life. And of course the most painful. But it was the most self-affirming and energy-giving thing I have ever done. I felt almost high after it.

post #96 of 123

we're prepared for the best and the worst in labor. if i do end up needing a c-section, then so be it, and if complications arise to my health or the baby's, then that happens, too and we're prepared to deal with that as need be. though hubby will be the one calling shots for me, since we're on the same page. i just know that he will be so alarmed at how much pain i am in though.

 

we also watched a video on the drugs, etc. that they offer during labor, but it was VERY apparent that it was a hospital-issued video. no talk about the risks of intervention--they just casually mentioned that the narcotics go to baby as well--and this was the ONLY information these mothers have on this subject. i want so badly to recommend something to them, so that they are truly informed. i can tell that some women have a lot of questions about the effects on the baby, they asked, but the instructor is not very helpful in answering properly. her answer was "we don't know the effects on the baby since we can't test it in there."

 

i'm looking forward to labor and the birth process, pain and all. we don't live far from the hospital so early labor at home while timing contractions should be okay.

i'm so excited to meet this baby. 

post #97 of 123
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My first was a natural birth in a hospital.  DH and I also went to the birthing class, which went over all the available meds and side effects.  I went in knowing I wanted a natural birth and hearing all the potential side effects cemented that plan even more so for me.

 

But I can imagine why some women want to opt for some relief.  Birth is really portrayed in the media with a lot of fear and there are so many women who have bad experiences and really feel like they can not handle the pain part.  So if you're a woman with several friends who have all had excruciating (to them) experiences and they all tell you their stories... I can see how the fear of dealing with that would really hinder the labor process.  If it's going to ease the fear and help them relax, hopefully it's a benefit and doesn't lead to more interventions.  Unfortunately, that's usually just the first intervention and can lead to several more.

 

It's definitely good to be going into it with a firm belief that you CAN do it without pain meds, not that you'll TRY (an OB's favorite word, it seems) to do without them.  And yes, having a great support person is huge, as well as having some kind of birth relaxation technique (Bradley was what we used, love it) that you've practiced ahead of time is also very helpful.

post #98 of 123
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i'm looking forward to labor and the birth process, pain and all. we don't live far from the hospital so early labor at home while timing contractions should be okay.
i'm so excited to meet this baby. 

Ditto! I feel about as prepared as I can be without knowing what is actually going to happen, and what it's going to feel like. I feel bad for those women who don't realize that they need to educate themselves and not rely on just one doctor's opinion - I would have a hard time like you not saying anything! We went to a class that was geared towards natural birth, while at the same time providing full information on risks and benefits of all of the interventions.
post #99 of 123
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Originally Posted by kellybeth View Post

this doesn't really go here. but it fits, in a way.

 

we're first-timers, my husband and i, as are all the other couples in our birthing class.

 

we went over what amount of narcotics, epidurals, and intervention that we want for our birth at last night's class. 

i was APPALLED at how many women want to not feel anything at all. it's not called "happy fun time" it's called "labor" for a reason. 

i wanted to yell at them all. maybe i'm hormonal, but i just don't understand these women and it makes me so sad.

we want a natural birth (though we will be in a hospital) and no pain meds, whatsoever. we're preparing ourselves like it's not an option, so that it's not an option.

am i alone in this? how did other moms feel when they were pregnant with their first?

 

Same issue! I'm opting out of the birth classes now because I honestly feel like I'm better off not even talking to the terrified moms I've seen at the birth education place near us. I'm trying to set up some extra consults with my midwife instead so she can prep my husband and I a little more intimately. 

post #100 of 123

I just went to the first (of two) birth classes on Saturday. I signed up with pretty low expectations and mostly went just so DH could hear what she had to say and I could ask questions about hospital policies, but it wasn't too bad. I did spend most of the class asking her questions that I already knew the answer to in order to balance her information a bit, though (e.g., there ARE side effects of getting an epidural, such as more intervention through pitocin and potentially a c-section if you aren't progressing enough, and questioning where I could access "the study" she referred to when describing how mothers who got the flu shot while pregnant had healthier babies - ftr, it was anecdotal, not a study).

 

That nurse loved her some drugs. Even my husband turned to me at one point and whispered "I've met dealers who were less enthusiastic about drugs..."

 

Quote the nurse, "There's nothing better than floating in warm water on morphine".

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