Originally Posted by tonttu
The fact does remain though , that not too long ago autism didn´t exist in the minds of people , nor in the minds of the scientific community .
People who would now be considered autistic , were considered quirky at best and downright loony at worst , with the ( for them ) many times fatal consequence of being institutionalized .
The argument here is , did the vaccines start the problem ? No , they did not , since people were autistic long before vaccines even existed .
So , instead of getting stuck on what has proven NOT to be the reason , it would be a lot more useful to instead focus on really finding a reason , why people are born with autism , working on improving treatment and therapy options and possibly even finding a cure / prevention
I'm afraid I DO entirely disagree with you.
You cannot reasonably say that vaccines have been proven NOT to be a causal factor in the increase in autism, when the UC Davis MIND institute has already determined that the increase in autism is NOT just better diagnosis, but that there is a strong environmental component.
Institutions exist today, and have existed for over a century, but they are NOT filled with middle-aged and elderly people with severe autism. If autism has always been with us, then the institutions WOULD be filled with them. I have spent quite a bit of time at one such institution, and the caregivers there say that they have only seen a few autistic people there over the last few decades. People with autism severe enough to require 24-hour care have NOT always existed in such numbers as we are seeing with today's children--and the first generation of children who received the increased number of thimerosal-preserved and aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines is only just now reaching adulthood.
Ask any teacher who has been teaching for over 20 years, and (s)he will tell you that the number of kids displaying autistic symptoms in the classroom has skyrocketed. The kids who are in the classroom are the ones who are verbal; they would not have been institutionalized 20, 30 years ago (and if they had, they'd still BE in those institutions--and they're not there).
Yes, quirky personalities have been around for centuries. But you can't have it both ways. Either quirkiness does not equal autism, or if it does--well, remember where the phrase "mad as a hatter" comes from? I'll give you a hint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_hatter_disease "Mad Hatter Disease" describes the symptoms of MERCURY POISONING.
Ever hear of acrodynia? It is described as an idosyncratic sensitivity to mercury, where mercury-containingteething powders in the early 20th century resulted in severe neurological effects on babies and toddlers. Acrodynia cases pretty much disappeared after the mercury was removed from the teething powders.
Not surprisingly, grandchildren of acrodynia survivors are six times as likely to be autistic as grandchildren of the general population.
Articles like this one http://legacy.autism.com/triggers/vaccine/mercurylong.htm have yet to be "proven" wrong.
You want to find a cure/prevention for at least some cases of autism? Well, first you have to admit to the possiblity that vaccines play a causal role in at least some cases. And that's already been proven. Saying "autism was with us before vaccines" does not prove that vaccines don't cause autism.