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post #1 of 19
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.... trying to be healthy? and even keep your family healthy?

 

ever since i discovered universities putting out GMO food and people not even knowing it i have thrown in the towel.

 

i no longer worry about pesticide, fertilizers, organic, GMO... and the list goes on.

 

that doesnt mean i dont try. i do. but all the guilt i refuse to feel anymore. 

 

going off the grid as much as i'd like to - is not gonna happen.

 

so i try to do the best that i can under the circumstances.

 

whew!!! its a relief. and it certainly has helped me not be so prejudiced anymore.

 

how about you? 

post #2 of 19

I can sympathize. Pesticide, fertilizers, organic, GMO, etc are on my "stuff I'll start worrying about someday in the future" list. I don't have the energy and money for it now.

post #3 of 19

I do the best I can, but I do get frustrated at times.  I try to think of it as making even small differences in my life and health of the family as important, because there are so many things out there that you can't help but be explosed too.

 

  I have given up on buying myself organic fruit because it's just too expensive right now, but I still get it for the kids.  I used tons of paper plates before and after I had shoulder surgery.  I know there is more, but sometimes, I fall off the health and environmental health wagon.  But I figure I do the best I can do, so I try not to beat myself up when the best I can do is paper plates! 

post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by meemee View Post

ever since i discovered universities putting out GMO food and people not even knowing it...

 

Explain? I'm not sure what happened here.

 

On the one hand I gave up insisting on organic strawberries only. We were never eating strawberries. I get organic strawberries if I find a reasonable price, but usually they're just too expensive.   

 

On the other hand, we get an organic produce box delivered weekly.  It's on auto-pay, so I don't have to decided every 30 days if I want to continue.  It's mindless, it just shows up each Thursday morning.  The only decisions I make are how to use them. 

 

I THINK I'm saving money with the csa box. By buying a bunch at once I think I'm getting it cheaper than if I bought all the same stuff at the local grocery store.  Who knows, maybe I'm not.  But we are definitely eating more fruits and veggies than before, and that was my original motivation for signing up. 

 

So maybe I'm not being consistent, but this is what I choose to do.  

 

Edited to add, we're moving and I'm totally looking forward to hanging clothes to dry outside again.  Can't hang clothes anywhere in this stupid back yard and I've missed it. 

post #5 of 19
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Explain? I'm not sure what happened here.

For the longest time i thought the only company making and growing GMO was Monsanto. 

 

then i met a univ. researcher and i found out they are selling GMO plants of many kinds - includings grapes for wine to the farmers around us. 

 

that is what made me throw in the towel. 

 

and that's why i say if they have to label foods for GMO - they should label NO GMO, coz that would be the rare one so you are not spending too much time in adding to labels. 

 

i threw in the towel when i found i was freaking myself out too much. always looking and researching to keep out the poisons. and i found i couldnt keep ALL of it out. some yes, but i am no longer going to let all that decision making rule my life. 

 

there are certain rules i live by - only eat grass fed organic meat when and if we can afford it - which is not a big deal since we are flexitarians. 

 

eat for the taste even if it might contain pesticides. so freshly grown and harvested strawberries - i am ok with. because i discovered that the 'cides' do change the flavor enough to not make us want to eat it. 

post #6 of 19

I'm thinking of eating soy again.

post #7 of 19

I am actually feeling reasonably comfortable at the present.  I'm doing what I can, and working to improve if possible, but I'm not stressed out or beating myself up over our current choices.  Of course, this general feeling of moderate success and well-being only lasts as long as I don't read or watch any news.  Haha.

post #8 of 19
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Of course, this general feeling of moderate success and well-being only lasts as long as I don't read or watch any news.  Haha.

THATS IT!!!! i am involved in these issues and i have yet to find my zen spot which comes when at 60 i think. 

 

just about all issues. so is it worth it to recycle if you have to wash that thing with water that takes 3 glasses of water to make one glass of pure water. so when you wash something you are spending so much more water in there. 

 

so prius or any hybrid car is saving gas and the environment we are told, but what about the batteries that are going into the landfill?!!!

 

part of it is also i over think and over research a lot. 

 

with teh idea that really nothing is being done really to save the environment or us. or that what is being done is not drastic enough. 

 

hopefully i can still reach my zen spot (which i think i am reaching) while i am caught right in the middle of the storm. 

post #9 of 19

here's what i think, and i'll try not to overthink, because i tend to do that too. 

all other doctrines aside, reduce - reuse - wear your things OUT. wear them till they're gone. used up.

this is not only "cheaper" for your pocketbook, it helps the environment.

buy second hand stuff. there is a TON of great quality, top notch stuff at resale stores. buy this, instead of buying "new".

again, helps your pocketbook and the environment.

GROW YOUR OWN FOOD.

this is the only way you can truly control what you eat.

again, helps your pocketbook and the environment.

and if you want to take it a step further, SHARE your homegrown food with your neighbors. 

either form a coop where they pay you a nominal amount to help offset your expenses, or just outright share it as your "gift to the world."

do this with your used things, too. donate them to a charity that resells, or just outright give them away.

 

teach your children to fix broken things, rather than just throw it out and buy new.

get thrifty and resourceful about reusing things.

get real generous about sharing things for free.

post #10 of 19
I go through phases where I get really frustrated. I just said to my mother that I feel like every time I turn around, something else is really bad for us. Example: I bought an Emeril cast iron skillet thinking it was going to be a healthy option. Then I found out it was made in China and pre-seasoned and probably had a nasty coating on it that would flake off into my food. I did notice flaking, so I went and ordered a Lodge skillet. Hoping this one is really good. First grilling your food is really good for you b/c you avoid extra fat/oil. Then it's bad because charred meat causes cancer.

The other thing I do is I get stuck! I need to figure out what my best option for a new mattress is for my almost 3 year old. Right now, she is on a crib mattress on the floor with a twin pull-out mattress next to it for when she rolls off of the crib mattress. Neither is organic. Both have flame retardants. The pullout mattress is 11 years old, and is what she ends up sleeping on most of the time. But I can't justify the expense of buying an expensive organic mattress. I was thinking Ikea, but then read they aren't always any better. Sooooo I do nothing. I's been over a year and I am still stuck. With my older dd, I just went to a store and picked out a mattress... whatever economy version there was and called it good. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.

But really, I have to remember the small changes mindset. I also get organic produce delivered (Suburban Organics) and try to use it for the more dirty produce like peaches, strawberries, etc. I avoid BPA and use my glass containers up before going to plastic. It has to add up.

I also find that I just don't have time to do everything I want to do. want to can a bunch of food. I want to freeze my healthy dinners in something other than ziplocks, but don't want to deal with broken glass. So I remind myself that at least I am making dinner from scratch and avoiding a lot of processed food and let that be enough.

Can you tell I'm in a frustrated phase right now? LOL! It'll pass and I'll continue to do my best for my family. It's all I can do.
post #11 of 19

My opinion is do your best. I am in California and I helped collect signatures for GMO labeling and while it feels important to me, all the negative talk sometimes makes it feel pointless, until I saw that we got over a million signatures (I honestly didn't think we would.)  I still don't think it will happen but at least it brought some awareness. Even if it seems negative and "what's the point?" sometimes, we can do our best and feel good about it.

post #12 of 19

Nope. I haven't given up. I volunteered for the past ten years with a food justice and natural foods group and recently stepped down because of the kids. We bought organic when at all possible and buy pastured diary and meat products and mostly wild fish. I live in southern California so really, it isn't that hard.

 

Universities produce almost half of all scientific research and even more AG research from land grant univerisites so it shouldn't suprise anyone that some are involved in GMO research. They usually license it to commercial growers, both gmo and non-gmo hybrids. I dont want gmos because the long term research isn't there on the effect of human health and plant health. I want all gmos labeled. But the potential for overall world health cannot be ignored.

post #13 of 19

I do the best I can to keep us healthy. The most frustrating thing for me now is Cell towers--- ugh--- they are putting them in towns near where people live-- and they are just so awful and make me feel so sick. I hate that people allow them in towns so close to people. :(

post #14 of 19

I change what I can and force myself to realize there will always be situations where something isn't what I was told. I have purposely had that mind set from the very beginning

post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by MrsGregory View Post
 

I am actually feeling reasonably comfortable at the present.  I'm doing what I can, and working to improve if possible, but I'm not stressed out or beating myself up over our current choices.  Of course, this general feeling of moderate success and well-being only lasts as long as I don't read or watch any news.  Haha.

:yeah

post #16 of 19

I definitely have frustrated phases probably more often than not but I haven't given up. It's horrible trying to compare things and figure out what the best option is. This is especially hard when looking for something that matches all my wants list. It's a long list depending on the item too - what's in it, if it's reusable/recyclable, where it's made, how it's made, cost, efficiency. The secondhand is great too and the most ecofriendly supposedly but that's not always an option or the case in some areas or for certain items. I do my best and remember that any effort is better than no effort... plus if I buy an item that helps me be more eco-friendly and I replace it later with something that better fits my wants/needs I can always donate the first item and help someone else come a little closer to eco-friendly.

post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by DesireeH View Post
 

My opinion is do your best. I am in California and I helped collect signatures for GMO labeling and while it feels important to me, all the negative talk sometimes makes it feel pointless, until I saw that we got over a million signatures (I honestly didn't think we would.)  I still don't think it will happen but at least it brought some awareness. Even if it seems negative and "what's the point?" sometimes, we can do our best and feel good about it.

The GMO debate isn't especially popular where I am here in Maryland - not compared to CA where it was a ballot measure (I forget the CA name for that right now) in the last election, right? I remember a good friend was visiting us in our city during that vote. She and I were really in a similar mind-set when I lived on the west coast. Where I live now, however, there are more immediate issues that people are focusing on. Not that one couldn't make a case that the GMO issue is also immediate but when a family is focused on making ends meat...  In the end, I think that environmental and many progressive movements would do better to get behind doing what we can to support structures for a stronger middle class. I'm afraid that the votes for these things will just not be there until that happens. :o 

post #18 of 19

I totally understand the desire to give up! It seems like everything in our world is toxic these days--food, plastics, water, air, etc. Everything! What to do? For now, I am not burned out--yet--but I know there might be a point when it will happen.

 

I agree with Tropicana. My way of dealing with this toxic reality is to learn how to grow my own food. Learn how to detox, because just breathing air is going to introduce toxins into the body. There is really no way to avoid it, so how do we repair the damage? There are ways! Eating as cleanly and healthy as possible can be done, but it is very expensive! Even if you eat the most pristine diet, you are still exposed to air pollution and dangerous frequencies. So, while it may be important to eat organic, non GMO, if you can't always do this, then it is even more important to learn how to detox and cleanse your body. If you eat something from the "naughty list", don't be too hard on yourself, and try to repair any damage. (research coffee enemas for starters!)

 

I've gone through phases of giving up, then getting back into the spirit. Two steps forward, one step back......usually, the one step back phase occurs when I eat a whole cheesecake for my birthday lol...

post #19 of 19

what about cell towers? They seem so toxic to me and the companies are dumping them all up and putting out cell tower waves all over-- no matter what we do to try to be okay it is a new form of toxins coming at us. I hate them. Cell towers are so rude- with people arguing in their defense that there is no proof that they are bad, and so all of us have to live with them all over the place- such a sad turn of events for the world, imo. When plug in phones work perfectly fine and don't make cell towers necessary.

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