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post #21 of 33
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I am a big believer in temperament, having seen lots of challenging children (including my own!) that never suffered anything in their lives. The traits that they have identified as being part of temperament are traits we all have--just with a higher or lower degree of intensity.  May be worth a look. I have argued (playfully) with a major attachment theorist about this topic and I'm sticking to my opinion, that some kids have temperaments that actually resemble children with major issues--only they have not had an challenges in their life or development.

http://www.temperament.com/clinical.html

 

Wow.. that is absolutely awesome.

 

But even I'm getting off of my original point: there's no real COMMUNITY for these parents--is there?  I mean, there really just doesn't seem to be somewhere they can go and vent where they're not going to be instantly pounded with one extreme or the other... one side yelling "Try 1-2-3 Magic!  Worked like a charm for us!"  or  "Get a great attachment therapist and these meds to hold you over!"... kwim?  There doesn't seem to be a place for the grey in between.

post #22 of 33
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Wow.. that is absolutely awesome.

 

But even I'm getting off of my original point: there's no real COMMUNITY for these parents--is there?  I mean, there really just doesn't seem to be somewhere they can go and vent where they're not going to be instantly pounded with one extreme or the other... one side yelling "Try 1-2-3 Magic!  Worked like a charm for us!"  or  "Get a great attachment therapist and these meds to hold you over!"... kwim?  There doesn't seem to be a place for the grey in between.

 I agree that there is no inbetween.  After years of looking help, we ended up using a RAD/attachemtn/trauma therapist things have gotten much better.

post #23 of 33
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Wow.. that is absolutely awesome.

 

But even I'm getting off of my original point: there's no real COMMUNITY for these parents--is there?  I mean, there really just doesn't seem to be somewhere they can go and vent where they're not going to be instantly pounded with one extreme or the other... one side yelling "Try 1-2-3 Magic!  Worked like a charm for us!"  or  "Get a great attachment therapist and these meds to hold you over!"... kwim?  There doesn't seem to be a place for the grey in between.

Yes I agree that there isn't a great community or forum. There used to be a forum as part of the Transforming the Difficult Child website (which is another place for some interesting information, but they are also selling stuff) which helps parents with difficult children of all stripes, but I can't find the forum anymore. I got a lot of support from it at one time.

post #24 of 33

Here is an interesting forum for parenting by temperament. I don't know anything about it (and of course they are also selling a book!) but it might be intriguing to check out.

 

http://www.forum.parentingbytemperament.com/

post #25 of 33

The forum above is not very interesting actually because as far as I can see there is no content......
 

post #26 of 33
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A void that needs filling.  Although I'm currently spread too thin to attempt to create such a community.

post #27 of 33

Very interesting stuff.  My oldest (bio) DD would fit somewhere in that gray area.  She swings quickly from one extreme to the other and can be extremely destructive.  I've hunted and hunted and not found a lot of help. 

 

I think some of it may be trauma induced in her though, albeit not from a foster/adopt situation.  She had undiagnosed Celiac disease and has intense neurological symptoms when she consumes gluten.  We didn't get her gluten-free until she was around 2.  I wonder how much of her current personality is a byproduct of 2 years of pain and feeling out of control.
 

post #28 of 33

I found this forum yesterday or the day before & it is active. It's for conduct disorders of all types, including adhd and asd. Pretty much for anyone w/ a challenging child haha. Just reading the young children section helped me b/c there are a lot of experienced parents on there. http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f4/

 

Are you a part of any local mom's groups? In my one that meets face-to-face regularly, I'm in the minority as far as the challenges go. In my local fb group that has a lot of moms with a wide age range of kids, I have found real-life advice and commiseration. We do not meet up, but we could. I can put faces of real people to the convos. It helps a lot.

post #29 of 33

Sorry I didn't read your OP close enough!

Our older little one has clear memories of her neglect, but her little brother does not.  He was removed early enough that he has no real memories, but has an overwhelming feeling of anxiety.  However, the services he receives through the behavioral therapy agency really do nothing in the way of counseling. 
The behavioral therapist who comes here works with both of them on how to handle feelings of anger and frustration, not so much where those feelings come from. 

Though she remembers the trauma, in some ways, I think it is worse for him.  She has something she can talk about and work through, and I think she may be able to eventually identify that there were specific people who hurt her and she couldn't trust, but she can trust others.    He has a constant worry that no one will take care of him and will abandon him.  He doesn't really remember who hurt him, so he sort of assumes anyone will.  That's the way I see it, anyway.

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Originally Posted by lauren View Post

I am a big believer in temperament, having seen lots of challenging children (including my own!) that never suffered anything in their lives. The traits that they have identified as being part of temperament are traits we all have--just with a higher or lower degree of intensity.  May be worth a look. I have argued (playfully) with a major attachment theorist about this topic and I'm sticking to my opinion, that some kids have temperaments that actually resemble children with major issues--only they have not had an challenges in their life or development.
 

 


Our own bio-son (4) has a very difficult temperament.  He was an extremely colicy baby, and, as it turns out, is very lactose intolerant, so, was living with pretty constant tummy troubles for 3 years before we really figured out what was going on.  He cannot handle change, is very concerned when things are out of order, HAS to have a written schedule... his tantrums can the rival the excess and violence of our older foster daughters (and now that she is on meds again, they are more frequent), and he certainly has never been abused/neglected.  Sometimes my husband gets really worried that he is ODD or OCD... but I tend to think personality/temperament lies on a continuum or spectrum.  He is just a little skewed that way.  The things that help him, early bed times, naps, regular routines, a written schedule, 'team meetings,' quiet time in his room... etc. all really help our foster daughter as well.

I am going to look up Parenting the Explosive Child and Beyond Consequences for our own household. 

post #30 of 33
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I found this forum yesterday or the day before & it is active. It's for conduct disorders of all types, including adhd and asd. Pretty much for anyone w/ a challenging child haha. Just reading the young children section helped me b/c there are a lot of experienced parents on there. http://www.conductdisorders.com/forum/f4/

 

Are you a part of any local mom's groups? In my one that meets face-to-face regularly, I'm in the minority as far as the challenges go. In my local fb group that has a lot of moms with a wide age range of kids, I have found real-life advice and commiseration. We do not meet up, but we could. I can put faces of real people to the convos. It helps a lot.

 

Thanks for that forum.  Will check it.  I'm part of multiple mom groups but I relocated 2 years ago and still don't feel like I fit here.  Suffice it to say that there are no doctors that share our mindset and most of the area is of a single religion--so I get the impression (based on things being said directly to me) that things that are "off" about us is kind of blown off to "how we live" (aka "not really having faith based on where we moved from--which is a heavily NOT religious area of the country).  It's been interesting.

post #31 of 33

I hope it's okay I'm posting here.  My younger, bio son has many challenging personality traits and probably fit an ODD diagnosis.  One interesting thing the therapist brought up was his preemie background.  At 33 weeks he didn't have the biological maturity to interpret and process all the sensory input he was getting from all that was done to him in the NICU.  Premature infants are fighters by nature.  She said she saw similar in other children who were born prematurely--that rigidity and stubborness, that fight.  Just a thought.

post #32 of 33
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That's actually an interesting thought.  For the countless specialists my bio has seen, not a single one of them ever mentioned that.  He spent time in the NICU with a chest and feeding tube.  :/

post #33 of 33

You can read the book Primal Wound by Nancy Verrier- it is written by an adoptive parent and a lot of adult adoptees relate to it.

 

Here is her website

 

http://nancyverrier.com/
 

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