Justin Bieber/Jonas Brothers merchandise - Page 2

[Imakcerka]

Originally Posted by eclipse 

And Bieber's music is probably a hell of a lot more "wholesome" than the music my kids actually listen to, so

Right?!  I heard my oldest singing something that had me like... "SAY WHAAAAAAAT?"   Oh it was Nicki Minaj... apparently it's a catchy song... I'll pm you the song so I don't get flamed for it.

[Alphaghetti]

Originally Posted by eclipse 

This thread is cracking me up.
Anyhow, I have an 11 yo son, a 9 year old dd, and a 6 year old son. None of them are into Bieber or anything like that. I have brainwashed them into only liking music I consider good. I have worked hard at this, please be respectful of it. : Anyhow, if any of them enjoyed Bieber or his dreaded ilk, I'd be fine with them having some of the merchandise. As it is, dd wants a singing Bieber doll to use as a crash test dummy for her Mythbusters-esque experiments. Alas, I cannot justify the expense for something she will destroy, as amusing as it would be.

Lucky! I worked really hard to brainwash my kids into liking good music, but alas, they have rebelled. ;)  They DO like great stuff, but they also like the top 40 crap.

[eclipse]

I'm going to have to start pretending to hate the music they like so they don't go out and find stuff to actually piss me off.

[meemee]

Originally Posted by momma2beaugirls 

but I don't understand parents who purposely buy their 4-10 year old daughters stuff like that. It disturbs me and creeps me out. I don't want my six year old daughter obsessing over a boy twice her age and I just find it all incredibly tacky and cheap. 

seriously?!!! because the parents buy those stuff it creeps you out. 

what is creeping ME out is your very post. you see it as u dont want your 6 year old dd obsessing over a 'boy twice her age'. ewwwwww!!

none of the girls (and there are PLENTY of girls in dd's class who have liked JB since first grade and K) have ever obsessed over a 'boy twice her age', they obsessed over a rock star and his songs. THAT is a huge difference. for dress up day, the majority teh girls dress up as are rock stars. my dd obsesses over Alton Brown. is THAT even worse because he's a man? i would call it an obsession coz she wants him on her bday cake.

would it have made you feel better if JB was say 8 years old?

yes some 4 to 10 year old do obsess over own age mate friends. maybe even a grade or two higher. but to equate childhood crushes to sex is just ewwww. at least that's how it comes across to me that that's what you are doing. otherwise why the eww factor?

even if a 5 year old says she wants to marry JB would that be a eww? what about my friends 5 year old who wants to marry me? is that ewww too?

my dd obsesses over Adele. the reason we dont have a poster is coz we just dont have that kind of money. if we did she'd have a poster of her on the wall. is that ewww? if you are saying heteros can eww you out, then same sex should eww you out too, shouldnt it. 

[momma2beaugirls]

Originally Posted by meemee 

seriously?!!! because the parents buy those stuff it creeps you out. 

what is creeping ME out is your very post. you see it as u dont want your 6 year old dd obsessing over a 'boy twice her age'. ewwwwww!!

none of the girls (and there are PLENTY of girls in dd's class who have liked JB since first grade and K) have ever obsessed over a 'boy twice her age', they obsessed over a rock star and his songs. THAT is a huge difference. for dress up day, the majority teh girls dress up as are rock stars. my dd obsesses over Alton Brown. is THAT even worse because he's a man? i would call it an obsession coz she wants him on her bday cake.

would it have made you feel better if JB was say 8 years old?

yes some 4 to 10 year old do obsess over own age mate friends. maybe even a grade or two higher. but to equate childhood crushes to sex is just ewwww. at least that's how it comes across to me that that's what you are doing. otherwise why the eww factor?

even if a 5 year old says she wants to marry JB would that be a eww? what about my friends 5 year old who wants to marry me? is that ewww too?

my dd obsesses over Adele. the reason we dont have a poster is coz we just dont have that kind of money. if we did she'd have a poster of her on the wall. is that ewww? if you are saying heteros can eww you out, then same sex should eww you out too, shouldnt it. 

Please be respectful. It is my opinion and you don't have to share it but you need to be respectful. I don't get why others can get away with talking like this but if I get angry because people are misinterpreting my post and being disrespectful then everyone gangs up on me and says "oh you just don't want to here other opinions!" That is entirely not true. 

[meemee]

Originally Posted by momma2beaugirls 

Please be respectful. It is my opinion and you don't have to share it but you need to be respectful. I don't get why others can get away with talking like this but if I get angry because people are misinterpreting my post and being disrespectful then everyone gangs up on me and says "oh you just don't want to here other opinions!" That is entirely not true. 

what part is disrespectful? you call other parents actions eww, and i said i find your interpretation eww? 

i am trying to get at why you feel the way you do. 

in all my experience with moms IRL, moms on bulletin boards, etc. this is the very first time i have ever come across someone looking at this as you have - twice the age. and yes it was shocking to me. 

i seriously did not mean to offend you. i am trying to understand your point of view by expressing my reaction to your point of view. 

[Alphaghetti]

Originally Posted by momma2beaugirls 

Please be respectful. It is my opinion and you don't have to share it but you need to be respectful. I don't get why others can get away with talking like this but if I get angry because people are misinterpreting my post and being disrespectful then everyone gangs up on me and says "oh you just don't want to here other opinions!" That is entirely not true. 

Can you explain what you meant by your original post? It's unclear to me what you're looking for as answers.

I don't see anyone ganging up on  you. I see reactions to your post. You seem to be conveying that somehow these teen stars' merchandise is creepy. Your original post, to me, and to the previous poster, apparently, seems to elude to the fact that you find the merchandise to be promoting sexuality, or inappropriateness in some way.

[Imakcerka]

Op it comes off as slightly judgemental.   Kind of like the moms who are different and allow different things should be ashamed because you're disgusted by it.  Every one is different ya know. 

Edited by Imakcerka - 7/26/12 at 1:52pm

[momma2beaugirls]

"seriously?!!! because the parents buy those stuff it creeps you out? What is creeping ME out is your very post!"

This is the part I found very disrespectful. Let me make this as clear as possible. I am NOT judging anyone. I am merely stating my opinion about why I don't like it. Isn't that what this website is about? Sharing opinions? I didn't mean to come across as judgmental. 

[Imakcerka]

I'm sorry OP but it's judgey. It's similar to me saying something like My neighbor lets her 8 yr old watch Disney and I find that disgusting what do you guys think? Then you get upset when someone says "Uh... that's really not a great way to start a conversation" and you get upset.

It's not disrespectful to disagree and to point out the obvious, I do apologize if you're unable to see it any other way.  There's no need for hard feelings. 

[momma2beaugirls]

Editing op. Sigh. 

[eclipse]

Do you think these girls are having, like, sexual fantasies about the rock starts they're idolizing? I'm really trying to understand what about it is so objectionable to you. It doesn't sound like it's the content of the music that's bothering you - so what is it, exactly?

[eclipse]

And, actually, no. People don't need to be respectful of any and every opinion. Please be respectful of this.

[meemee]

Originally Posted by momma2beaugirls 

Do you let your daughters have the latest tween boy craze merchandise? By that I mean stuff like Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers posters, pillows, bedspreads, dolls etc. Really interested in hearing differing points of view. Same goes for moms buying their sons hannah montana or britney spears or other teen or adult girl stuff. 

ok this is good and not judgy, but it doesnt really tell me what you are thinking. so someone replying to this might bring up characters or lyrics. so if you wrote in your next para that you didnt like it because it looked like ..... you would get the exact answer you were looking for and i wouldnt use eww and creepy for you too which is i will admit disrespectful. 

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 

Op you come off as a little judgey pants.  Kind of like the moms who are different and allow different things should be ashamed because you're disgusted by it.  Every one is different ya know. 

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 

I'm sorry OP but it's judgey. It's similar to me saying something like My neighbor lets her 8 yr old watch Disney and I find that disgusting what do you guys think? Then you get upset when someone says "Uh... that's really not a great way to start a conversation" and you get upset.

It's not disrespectful to disagree and to point out the obvious, I do apologize if you're unable to see it any other way.  There's no need for hard feelings. 

Imakcerka's posts explains why we find your posts judgy. 

bottom line is these are phases our kids go thru. once they are done they dont even remember them. dd has no memory of buying Hanna M. school supplies for beginning of K. had i said no and made a big deal she would still remember that. 

and JB and high school musical are seen as kiddish by most teenagers. even though they still might secretly like them, they will never admit in public. in college amongst the 18 - 20 year olds JB was a joke. 

[QueenOfTheMeadow]

Regardless of who respects whose opinions, please keep to debating on the post, not the poster.  It's getting a bit on the personal side. 

Imakcerka- Please edit out your judgy pants comment. 

[QueenOfTheMeadow]

momma2beaugirls- I know that you are new to MDC, so please review the User Agreement.  We do not allow namecalling, and if you see a post that you feel is against the UA, please hit the little exclamation point on the botton of the screen and a moderator will check it out.  Thanks for your cooperation! 

[momma2beaugirls]

Originally Posted by QueenOfTheMeadow 

momma2beaugirls- I know that you are new to MDC, so please review the User Agreement.  We do not allow namecalling, and if you see a post that you feel is against the UA, please hit the little exclamation point on the botton of the screen and a moderator will check it out.  Thanks for your cooperation! 

Thank you! 

[alaskanmomma]

My daughter is only 4(well, almost 4) but loves Justin Bieber. She has a few dolls, a pillow, and jewelry. I don't really see the harm in it. If my son wanted a celebrity merchandise, I'd let him have it... I don't really care!

[mirina]

Originally Posted by meemee 

in all my experience with moms IRL, moms on bulletin boards, etc. this is the very first time i have ever come across someone looking at this as you have - twice the age. and yes it was shocking to me. 

Try to see the whole thing from a different point of view. I am totally  with "momma". How old is Bieber ? About 17 - 18? He doesn't sing songs for girls 8-9yo. He just does not. Please, do not be shocked that some parents do not want their kids to be hooked on an absolutely inappropriate stuff.

[Millie Ivy]

My kids cannot stand Beiber.  My oldest, 11 yo dd, won't even say his name, it's hilarious.  So I don't really have to deal with this.  But it general, I don't care what my kids get into as far as pop culture as long as certain overall things remain the same such as - not buying stuff I can't afford (my kids have their own spending money and if they want to buy cheap shit with it, that's their issue as long as rooms stay clean, etc), not harming another person or themselves, and not inflicting their obsession on siblings.  IE-if we are all in the main areas of the house or the car together we try to listen to music we can agree on. 

So far,  I like most of what my kids like.  I have a pretty eclectic taste in music though.  We listen to music together, watch tv together, read some of the same books.  I try to find what I CAN like about their interests so we can share them , for the most part.  (such as the latest vampire fiction dd read through.  was pretty cute, but middle schoolers aren't exactly my first choice to read about. I read the series so we could talk about it and share that.  If she wanted a 6th grader goth girl poster on her wall how does it hurt anyone?)

She is really, insanely into P!NK right now.  i love it. ;-)  I personally don't find it all that inappropriate to listen to pop music.  Anything "old" for them either goes over their heads or gets discussed.  I'm into talking through stuff with my kiddos.