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post #41 of 56
I just don't think GD warrants a high risk pregnancy label or induction.
post #42 of 56
Well I had the appt. the midwife Agreed with me that b/c Of my GD history and failing the one hour it was pretty likely I'd fail the extended test. So we are skipping the 3 hour and going straight to monitoring. We did talk about what it means for labor. I'd have to be monitored anyway bc I'm a vbac. So as long as I dont need insulin I'll be treated as a normal pregnancy. I am so relieved. Tomorrow I go for my consult and mini class, I am interested to see if the numbers have changed. With ds I had to below 80 at fasting and 120 an hour after meals. It was manageable and I didn't have to take any medications until the last couple weeks.
post #43 of 56

I got my test result today. Bad, bad, bad.  Each of 4 blood draws was 100 points over,  Ugh.  So dh is out picking up my glucometer, so we can test this week and see if I can manage with diet alone.  Though the numbers were so so high I'd be suprised if we didn't decide I needed to go on medication next week. 

 

Its strange b/c I feel pretty good this pregnancy, much better then last pregnancy.  I have to look up the GD diet and review but I *think* I've been pretty much using it.  

 

How is everyone else doing?  

post #44 of 56
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BOOOO, faithstuff!  Sorry to hear that.  

 

I'm currently in semi-controlled freak out mode. My fasting levels are rising.  The NP at the perinatologist's office told me that this would probably happen, but I had everything so well controlled last time that I didn't really think it would happen to me.  I had a fasting level of 96 a couple of days ago.  I think 2 things contributed.  One, I ate fairly poorly the night before.  Two, I ate a late snack and tested really early in the morning because ds woke so soon and I was hungry and wanted to eat breakfast, so I think I was in the middle of a rebound where my liver was converting some sugars.  Overall I think that, aside from it being common for a subsequent pg, fasting levels are rising because I'm not eating as consistently as last time and my liver thinks it needs to help out, stress level is considerably higher than last pg, and sleep is considerably worse.  I've only gained 12 lbs this pg. I gained 19 last pg, and weighed more to start.  I haven't really gained any weight since starting the diet, which isn't uncommon, but I think I need more calories that I have been getting to maintain a happy balance.  I tried not having a snack before bed last night thinking that maybe I was spiking at bedtime, going too low over night, and rebounding in the morning, but my reading was 89 after a very conscientious dinner.  So my plan is, super protein bedtime snack, a little exercise after dinner, and eating all the time during the day if I feel hungry to try to get my liver out of panic mode.  I should probably talk to the np about this plan.  

 

Part of me wants to give up and transfer to the very natural birth friendly ob practice that uses midwives I found.  They want transfers by 35 weeks, but take patients on a case by case basis, and since I've been seen by the perinatologist that they collaborate with, I'm sure they would take me a bit later.  I just want to KNOW where this labor is going to take place so I can mentally prepare and write a birth plan if it's to be in a hospital.  I have to let go of my feelings of dread about a hospital birth either way, though.  Working on it!!

 

Hope things work out for the rest of you gd ladies!!

post #45 of 56

I wonder if it's common to have higher numbers in subsequent GD pregnancies?  My numbers are so bad that I am almost 100% sure I can't manage with diet this time.  I have been eating well and eating amazingly since testing.  I pulled a 206 after dinner with a dish of beans, green veggies and ground beef.  Breakfast was a one egg scramble with some broccoli and cheese and I was 181.  191 fasting.  I'm trying not to panic but it isn't working :)

 

The peri sent me home with a log sheet thing to fax in.  He wants 2 hours post numbers, but honestly I can't make it that long without snacking so he's gonna have to deal with one hour numbers.  

 

I am just so frustrated.  Last pregnancy I felt like crap but with diet I kept my numbers within range until the very end.  This time I feel better, my diet is better, I'm getting more exercise but I'm still pulling crazy numbers. 

 

I should probably do some research into insulin use with GD and what all that means.  

 

Ppl who don't have GD are trying to be supportive with 'at least you only have 8 weeks'.  Its not helpful.  

 

*after reading this I realized why I'm all doom and gloom today.  After ds and I go to the library (every Tuesday) we stop across the street, get a donut and eat it while we read a library book.  Do you know what torture it was not to have a donut?  I never realized how heavenly a donut shop smells. *sigh*

post #46 of 56
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I wonder if it's common to have higher numbers in subsequent GD pregnancies?  My numbers are so bad that I am almost 100% sure I can't manage with diet this time.  I have been eating well and eating amazingly since testing.  I pulled a 206 after dinner with a dish of beans, green veggies and ground beef.  Breakfast was a one egg scramble with some broccoli and cheese and I was 181.  191 fasting.  I'm trying not to panic but it isn't working :)

 

The peri sent me home with a log sheet thing to fax in.  He wants 2 hours post numbers, but honestly I can't make it that long without snacking so he's gonna have to deal with one hour numbers.  

 

I am just so frustrated.  Last pregnancy I felt like crap but with diet I kept my numbers within range until the very end.  This time I feel better, my diet is better, I'm getting more exercise but I'm still pulling crazy numbers. 

 

I should probably do some research into insulin use with GD and what all that means.  

 

Ppl who don't have GD are trying to be supportive with 'at least you only have 8 weeks'.  Its not helpful.  

 

*after reading this I realized why I'm all doom and gloom today.  After ds and I go to the library (every Tuesday) we stop across the street, get a donut and eat it while we read a library book.  Do you know what torture it was not to have a donut?  I never realized how heavenly a donut shop smells. *sigh*

Yeah, apparently it does get harder to control with each subsequent pregnancy.  

 

I have been having a hard time going 2 hours between eating, too.  I'm giving up on that and just eating when I'm hungry because I think in the long run it will have a positive effect on my levels overall.  

 

There's a food trailer here that serves these amazingly over the top donuts.  My favorite is called the mother clucker and is served with fried chicken and honey glaze on top.  It, among many other treats, is on my list of things I will eat within the first week of getting this insulin resistant placenta out of my body!!  I find making this list to be very cathartic.  It is getting long.  It's not exactly nursing baby friendly, but you gotta do what you gotta do.  

post #47 of 56
This is the online diet & exercise guide that I've found online that is closest to what the dietician prescribed for me 11 and 13 years ago with my first two. The only difference is that the dietician usually said 15-30 carbs at snack time and 45-60 at lunch and dinner. Breakfast was the lowest carb time.

They also said to do 10 to 15 min of light exercise, something like walking or an arm dumbell workout, after each meal. Ten minutes of walking is manageable for me.

I refused the test this time, but I'm in general going by the guidelines I used in the past, because it really did seem sensible and healthy for anyone.
post #48 of 56
We got a cheap used no-frills treadmill off craigslist yesterday, so the ten min of walking is even more manageable. I'm a fair weather walker, so I needed an indoor climate controlled option.
post #49 of 56
One more thing- with avoiding sugar- I've found that it's all or nothing. If I have a low carb but sugary treat, I will crave sugar all day. If I avoid it altogether, I don't have the overwhelming sugar urges. A lot of candy bars are only 30g carb, making for a reasonable snack, but they make me want crap food for days.
It's like alcohol addiction, except sugar!
post #50 of 56

I think I put all this in the chit chat thread but thought I'd stop in here.  How is everyone doing?

 

I started insulin and feel much more functional.  Fortunately, the shots aren't nearly as bad as I thought it would be, the hardest thing is eating on a schedule!  I take two shots a day with a mixture of two diferant insulins, one is fast acting and one is slow release.  The morning shot made me hypo the other day, but I didn't time it right.  The evening shot is no biggy, but my fasting and breakfast numbers are still bad.  My breakfast number is worse then before I was taking insulin.  Right now I'm trying to figure out what it is I can't eat.  I have to have 2 starches with breakfast so I've decided it can't be a bread/wheat product.  I'm going to try grits tomorrow.  The diet has me eating more now then I was before.

post #51 of 56
I've found bread is the worst thing for my BSLs. I can have one slice at a time but no more. I usually have brown rice or pasta for breakfast with lots of veggies and some meat. Sometimes I have 3 scrambled eggs on one slice of toast if I don't have any leftovers.

I have managed to avoid insulin so far but only just. I suspect I will need it soon. I'm not worried about the needles but it automatically makes me "higher risk" for the obstetricians which is going to be a pain. I've already told them I won't consent to delivery at 38 weeks just because I'm on insulin. They took it well at the time but that was at 32 weeks and no insulin, I suspect they'll push harder when the time comes.

The thing I find most frustrating is that my numbers seem to bear no relation to my diet and activity. If I could identify the problems I would have a much better chance of fixing them!
post #52 of 56
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leafylady, I tried to ride our exercycle in the evenings.  I can't seem to adjust the seat to make it comfortable so that my thighs don't bump up against this huge belly.  I pretty much gave up on it.  Walking gives me pretty much constant bh contractions.  I have too many excuses for not exercising.  When it comes down to it, I'm probably just going to have to bite the bullet and start exercising for real!!

 

faithstuff, glad you are feeling better on the insulin.  That's got to be so frustrating to still be having high morning numbers, though.  Hope you figure out the magic breakfast combination soon!!

 

katelove, the most frustrating part of all of this is that my numbers have gone up despite being really strict and eating pretty much the same diet I ate last pregnancy.  There are other factors at play, less sleep, a bit more stress, less time for thorough meal planning.  But I'm thinking it's mostly just more resistant chemistry this time around. Stinks to think I can't really do anything about it.  

 

I had a huge cheat day yesterday.  My cousin's family came over for dinner, and we made burgers because that's all their kids would eat.  I only had half a bun, but it was a white bun.  They brought a bunch of cookies for dessert, and I ate a whole one.  I was just going to have one bite, but before I knew it I had shoved it all in my mouth.  Then there were cold oven fries sitting around in a bowl, and I stuffed like eight of them down my gullet.  It was like I was possessed.  So much yummy carb depravation turned me into a beast.  Didn't beat myself up to much about it though.  Back on track today.  I have a midwife appointment tomorrow, so I'm going to discuss how bad things have to get and for how long before they'll kick me to the curb.  I mean will they ditch me at 38 weeks?? 

post #53 of 56
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I had a huge cheat day yesterday.  My cousin's family came over for dinner, and we made burgers because that's all their kids would eat.  I only had half a bun, but it was a white bun.  They brought a bunch of cookies for dessert, and I ate a whole one.  I was just going to have one bite, but before I knew it I had shoved it all in my mouth.  Then there were cold oven fries sitting around in a bowl, and I stuffed like eight of them down my gullet.  It was like I was possessed.  So much yummy carb depravation turned me into a beast.  Didn't beat myself up to much about it though.  Back on track today.  I have a midwife appointment tomorrow, so I'm going to discuss how bad things have to get and for how long before they'll kick me to the curb.  I mean will they ditch me at 38 weeks?? 

It's hard with visitors isn't it? I have had a few little cheats too, although they aren't what put my sugars up:eyesroll

One of the other really hard things is that all our quick meals rely so heavily on carbs. I cried the other night because we were late home and had to put J straight to bed before we ate. By the time that was done it was well after 7pm and we would normally do a quick pasta or potatoes with topping or beans on toast or something - none of which I can eat except in very small amounts. I'm certainly eating more healthily but it requires a great deal of planning and forethought and very little deviation from routine.
post #54 of 56
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Sorry girl! hug2.gif I hope your headache is better. I did the GTT test with my first and it was a crappy experience. I mean COME ON!!! What the HE** are they thinking?!?!?!

 

"Let's starve a pregnant woman. THEN let's feed her a bottle of sugar syrup, filled with artificial dye and flavor and just see what happens......................... OMG! There is a problem!" rolleyes.gif

 

Sorry about that little Cuss.gif there. redface.gif I have a huge problem with this test because it is completely flawed. There are other (better) ways of going the GTT test without that awful orange stuff and whacking a pregnant woman's blood sugar all out, which can adversely affect her baby.
 



No kidding!  I won't do the GD test again.  I did it with my first.  I think.  Can't remember for sure, but I recall I pretty much did whatever my very interventive perinatologist wanted me to do.  Didn't with my second or third and wasn't going to do it with my fourth, but sugar showed up in my urine, so I agreed.  Unfortunately, the fasting, the drinking that disgusting syrup, the waiting around, the blood draw and finally, my stupid decision to walk across the city to the other side of the river afterwards in the sunny, early summer weather to meet my DH on campus for lunch....all ended with me passing out on the Menza floor and being taken to hospital in an abulance.  Fun.  So NOT gonna do that again!

post #55 of 56

Anyone else having a difficult time stabilizing sugar levels?

post #56 of 56
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Anyone else having a difficult time stabilizing sugar levels?

Read about your troubles in the chit chat thread.  My fasting levels are rising a bit, but not enough to concern the perinatologist.  I definitely find that they are higher on nights when ds wakes more often (than the usual 5ish times!!) and has a nightmare needing lots of effort to settle him.  One of the annoying midwives at my birthing center suggested I get more sleep and exercise more over the phone today.   More sleep, you say?  OH really?  Ok, well I hadn't thought about trying to get more sleep.  Thanks for the suggestion.  I was just depriving myself for no good reason.  Wanted to reach into the phone and strangle her.  She was concerned about a total of 5 post prandial values that were slightly out of range, we're talking within 15 points here, since I started testing!  The np and peri thought that was a bit ridiculous.  I'm really glad that I had an appointment with him today or this midwife would have had me keeping a diet log again and freaking out about jamming in exercise.  At this point I can barely walk to the end of the block without starting a series of evening long, troublingly regular bh contractions.  I guess a childless, 20 something, socially inept midwife doesn't understand the level of activity required to spend your days gestating a fetus and caring for a spirited toddler.  

 

Really sorry to hear you are having a hard time with your levels.  It's just extra stress that makes for a vicious cycle. hug2.gifI wish I had some advice for you.  Do let us know how things shake out moving forward.  Best of luck, and I hope you get some peace and rest, mama!!

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