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Carrie - how long did it take you to conceive after weaning? I think that would be a more accurate indication of how long it takes you to *usually* conceive. 

 

 

3 weeks!  orngbiggrin.gif  I decided to wean her during AF, and that cycle I got pg.  

And we got pg with Nora on the first try.

I'm going to try hard not to worry/overthink things.  Thanks guys.  

 

MW if it is yeast for real, that nystatin should clear it up.  Finn had a nasty yeast rash in his fat roll and probably 3-4 days later it was gone.  I applied nystatin 1 X per day at night only.  It spread to his diaper area and the same thing, I just did it 1x per day and it lasted a few days.  I did switch to sposies tho, b/c I didn't want the yeast getting on my diapers.

 

Kat are you really going to try to get N in her own bed?  I think I'd just the baby stay and play it by ear when new baby comes.  I so feel girl for you again!  We shall see!!  What names are you throwing around?  Any yet or is it too soon?

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Popping in quickly to say that A's feet are about six inches heel to toe. 

 

Also, do you have any idea how hard it is to measure a toddlers foot!?!?! lol.gif

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Also, do you have any idea how hard it is to measure a toddlers foot!?!?! lol.gif

lol.gif Yes! You should try trying a pair of socks on a toddler.

See, Carrie, if you got pg the cycle you weaned Nora, then I'd say this is all normal BF stuff for you. I read an interesting article that Shannon posted on FB about ecological breastfeeding and fertility/child spacing. I shared it and tagged you.

I'm doing the Nystatin twice a day. I'm still applying the cream to his back, too, because it says to do it for 4 weeks even if it looks like it clears up. Fungal infections can be sneaky.

annie ~ Kind of strange that you had to give oral abx for a yeast infection. Wouldn't that have the opposite result since many people get yeast infections from taking abx?

Hmmm...come to think of it. Maybe that's how my cat developed ringworm. He was on abx for his neck wound.

On top of everything, I think I've got pink eye again! My eye is all goopy and feels puffy and started to ache yesterday. I'm applying breastmilk again.
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See, Carrie, if you got pg the cycle you weaned Nora, then I'd say this is all normal BF stuff for you. I read an interesting article that Shannon posted on FB about ecological breastfeeding and fertility/child spacing. I shared it and tagged you.
I'm doing the Nystatin twice a day. I'm still applying the cream to his back, too, because it says to do it for 4 weeks even if it looks like it clears up. Fungal infections can be sneaky.
annie ~ Kind of strange that you had to give oral abx for a yeast infection. Wouldn't that have the opposite result since many people get yeast infections from taking abx?
Hmmm...come to think of it. Maybe that's how my cat developed ringworm. He was on abx for his neck wound.
On top of everything, I think I've got pink eye again! My eye is all goopy and feels puffy and started to ache yesterday. I'm applying breastmilk again.

 

Yes I read it and it makes perfect sense.  I needed to read it.  I fell into the trap too of thinking bf'ing wasn't holding off fertility b/c my cycles did return.  But, like the article goes into, I don't schedule any feedings, and we are def still nursing a million times a day and then some.  So.  Nature's way of making sure my babies are well spaced, I suppose!

 

Ugh about the pinkeye!  I hate pinkeye.  It's one of those really gross illnesses that just really make you feel horrible!

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I am just one of those sol people then. I don't schedule feedings, but I am not around 24/7 and she was taking a paci.

I would really like to get her in her own bed for at least part of the night. I wish she would STTN, but that doesn't seem to be happening.

Zoo was good, I need a nap, but must work instead. Boo
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I am just one of those sol people then. I don't schedule feedings, but I am not around 24/7 and she was taking a paci.

Yeah, if that's the case, you can't rely on EBF or even LAM, really, as you have so obviously experienced. winky.gif But as the article says, that's why so many people today say that BFing cannot be used as BC. It's because they don't have any experience or knowledge of how it works if you do it completely the way nature intended. Although, you don't have to be around 24/7 the entire time you are BFing.

Oh, did I tell you all that since I found those FB groups for selling diapers, have sold quite a bit of stuff? Woot! But, I spent some on Kellen because Ethan was being mean and wouldn't share a toy so I told Kellen I'd take him to get his own and the rest on yarn co-ops and shipping. So much for more diapers. Hee

I don't know what to do about Ethan. He is so mean to Kellen sometimes. I lost it on him this morning. I saw him grabbing at Kellen and Kellen was really scared, running to me for protection, and I just saw red. Kellen shouldn't be scared in his own home like that. After a few issues, Ethan now seems to be behaving nicer.
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Yes, SOL but it doesn't mean anything.  It's just the way it is.  Just b/c those are the "requirements" for ebf, it doesn't mean b/c they don't apply to you that you are doing anything wrong.  

Personally Idk how I even fit b/c my kid eats a ton of solids, I'm often gone for 4-6 hours (at least weekly) or he goes 5 hours w/o nursing.  He sucked his thumb, took a paci.  

 

Yay for selling stuff!  I keep buying.  I'm DONE buying dipes for a long time!  I almost think I have too many! 

 

I hate when Nora bullies Finn, too.  I don't have any advice, b/c I'm in the same boat a lot of the time.  I try to stress being fair all the time so when moments arise, I can pull up what she already knows and understands...but sigh.  It doesn't really always work and I still find myself seeing red a lot, too.

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Right, just because it didn't work for you or you aren't able to follow all the "rules" doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong. It just is the way it is.

I guess in your case, Carrie, you shouldn't rely exclusively on EBF because your fertility could return at any time. I'm not sure if the rules for EBF safely extend past a year in general, anyway.

I have to share the type of math problem Ethan just did completely on his own and intuitively because of our recent discussion. He was telling me that a jet can go 30 miles in half a second. (I don't know if that's true but that doesn't matter for this.) Then he asked me how much 60 + 60 was. I said 120. Then he said that it would take a jet 2 seconds to go that far. He did all of that on his own. I didn't ask him to do any math or figure out any problem or even bring up jets or how fast they are or anything. That kind of thing just amazes me. I got straight As in math through college calculus but I couldn't apply it to real life until I was well into my 20s and had had a few years out in the real world actually having to use it but it comes naturally to him, maybe because he's never been pressured to learn it or do it a certain way. shrug.gif
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Right, just because it didn't work for you or you aren't able to follow all the "rules" doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong. It just is the way it is.
I guess in your case, Carrie, you shouldn't rely exclusively on EBF because your fertility could return at any time. I'm not sure if the rules for EBF safely extend past a year in general, anyway.
I have to share the type of math problem Ethan just did completely on his own and intuitively because of our recent discussion. He was telling me that a jet can go 30 miles in half a second. (I don't know if that's true but that doesn't matter for this.) Then he asked me how much 60 + 60 was. I said 120. Then he said that it would take a jet 2 seconds to go that far. He did all of that on his own. I didn't ask him to do any math or figure out any problem or even bring up jets or how fast they are or anything. That kind of thing just amazes me. I got straight As in math through college calculus but I couldn't apply it to real life until I was well into my 20s and had had a few years out in the real world actually having to use it but it comes naturally to him, maybe because he's never been pressured to learn it or do it a certain way. shrug.gif

 

That's so awesome MW! I love how kids' brains work. Especially when grownups don't go in and muck it up!

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Right, just because it didn't work for you or you aren't able to follow all the "rules" doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong. It just is the way it is.
I guess in your case, Carrie, you shouldn't rely exclusively on EBF because your fertility could return at any time. I'm not sure if the rules for EBF safely extend past a year in general, anyway.
I have to share the type of math problem Ethan just did completely on his own and intuitively because of our recent discussion. He was telling me that a jet can go 30 miles in half a second. (I don't know if that's true but that doesn't matter for this.) Then he asked me how much 60 + 60 was. I said 120. Then he said that it would take a jet 2 seconds to go that far. He did all of that on his own. I didn't ask him to do any math or figure out any problem or even bring up jets or how fast they are or anything. That kind of thing just amazes me. I got straight As in math through college calculus but I couldn't apply it to real life until I was well into my 20s and had had a few years out in the real world actually having to use it but it comes naturally to him, maybe because he's never been pressured to learn it or do it a certain way. shrug.gif

O boy no I would NEVER rely on it!  Ha!  We use condoms every time and aren't taking ANY chances!!  LOL!
 

That is amazing.  Smart boy!  You're right that it's totally cool he could do that w/o even realizing what he was doing.

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That is really cool!

 

I have given alot of thought to this - and I can obviously see how some kids learn perfectly well on their own, I am still not convinced that its the best way for every child to learn - if that makes sense. I will have to wait and see what kind of learners my kids are.

 

Gabe is counting now, which is awesome. Most of the time he gets it right, up to ten. Between TV and youtube, LOL. We were in bed bath and beyond the other day and he grabbed an armful of fuzzy socks and counted them to DH and I - One, Two, Three, Four. he got a little confused upon repetion, but still neat. And he is getting pretty good with his colors. That is mostly thanks to my mom and m&ms. She has him say the color before he gets one.

 

Norah, thank goodness, is sleeping better, but I am still tired. a few more weeks, and hopefully the exhaustion will fade a bit.

 

Names, Carrie, you asked - if it's a boy - he'll be Theodore Lewis or Theodore Edward (and be called Theo or Teddy) I am really leaning towards Lewis, but Edward is a family name on both sides . . . so we'll see.  If the baby is a girl, she'll be Caroline Lily.

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As much as I love when they learn to count, write letters, etc, sometimes the best stuff is what they come up with on their own.  Yesterday driving home Nora was asking about the sun and the moon, and I was explaining why the sun is so bright, and she asked why the moon was bright.  I was explaining that the light was from the sun, and she was adamant, "No, no Mama.  No.  The moon, has little insects inside little doors.  Like fireflies.  And they all light up and that's why the moon is so bright."

 

Oh, ok Nora.  You got it.  winky.gif

 

She also tells me a lot about dinosaurs (she's REALLY fascinated with them lately) and loves to tell me dinosaurs were here first, when there were no people.  And she explained astronauts found the Earth and then people came.  After the dinosaurs all died b/c there was no food.  Love it.  Love!

 

Sigh.  Up too early today.

 

Kat - love the names.  Traditional!  

 

I think we're going to try the Bronx Zoo on Thursday (his bday).  I think we'll do a museum when Finn is a bit older and is walking.  We can't easily bring the stroller on the subway and I don't want him crawling around everywhere once we get there if I wear him.  At least the zoo I can bring the stroller.

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The beauty of unschooling is that it doesn't matter what kind of a learner a person is. They will learn what they want to know when they want to know it in the way they want to learn it. Think about a baby learns, your baby. That ability doesn't stop once they turn 5 or 7 and someone decides they should be in school. To fully embrace it, you have to let go of all your preconceived notions and expectations, any ideas you have of what people need to know and when, like counting to 10, knowing colors and the alphabet and reading by a certain age. None of that matters when unschooling because you aren't trying to keep up with someone else's agenda. I never tried to teach Ethan or Kellen the alphabet. I'm pretty sure Kellen couldn't recite the letters in order. That doesn't mean he doesn't recognize the letters when he sees them written. He does. That also doesn't mean he won't learn to read because he already is. It's really amazing.

It's taken me a lot of years to get to the point where I am truly relaxed about all of this. I've been reading about, thinking about or doing unschooling for 9 years. Fears and doubts used to creep in on me. I can say, though, that that has happened in quite a while now. I think it's because I now have a child (Ethan) old enough that I can see how all of this is falling into place.

Carrie ~ I love the things the boys come up with on their own, too. I'm actually not really caught up in them learning math and reading and such. That just seems to be what comes up in convos with others who don't unschool because they are still seeing the world through school-colored glasses.

Interesting that Nora said the astronauts came after the dinosaurs died. There are people who believe the human race on this planet was started by aliens from outer space. Hmm....maybe Nora knows something we don't.

We've been watching Shark Week on the Discovery Channel this week and Ethan is loving it. He's telling me about Megalodon and how the scientists have gotten the model robot wrong. Then the conversation veers into the comparison of sharks and whales, fish and mammals, dinosaurs, birds and reptiles. Ethan then wanted to know about fossil hunting and being a paleontologist and if he could do anything like that as a kid. So, I guess my mission is to find a fossil hunting place for kids. There are some rock quaries around here that have fossil digs open to the public periodically but they are for older kids, teens and adults, not appropriate for younger kids or babies.
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Gabe isn't yet conversational enough to come up with stuff - I can't wait until he is! But then I can - he's my child, after all, and I'm sure I won't be able to get him to shut up LOL

 

I love the freedom homeschooling provides - I just don't know that I am willing to completely let go of some sort of structure and learning to do unschooling. I know Gabe seems to like being with others and doing things with others as a group  - but he also likes to do things on his own. I know traditional school doesn't provide the kind of flexibility I want to provide - and I think that most kids need. School the way it was when I was growing up was so different from what it is now. So much "teaching the test" and that drives me crazy. I get that funding is driven by test scores, and schools need money, but I don't know that kids are really learning anything.  I am not really caught up in what he should know by when - I honestly have no idea of those markers. I am sure my sister does (she's an early ed teacher after all. Finally got a job as a 2nd grade teacher) I love that you can focus on whatever their interests are, and build around those. Gabe loves dinosaurs too, but I think that's from watching Peppa Pig. He loves George, who loves dinosaurs.

 

Norah, now, who knows what she will like yet! other than a girl who likes to eat :)

 

Yeah, the names are traditional. but not super common. I don't think I could convince DH to do something unique :)

 

Carrie - Finn should love the zoo! we go all the time. (not the bronx zoo, but hey, it's got animals!)

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Yes!  Animals are animals!  We have a really pretty lame "zoo" in the park (I'm sure you've seen the pics of the kids feeding goats...)  and he gets a huge kick out of that, so I'm pretty sure he'll like that better than the museum.

So...Nora and I started putting together goody bags and they are decidedly LAME.  So far, all I have in them is a sheet of stickers, a ring, and a bouncy ball.  What else can I put in them!?  Any ideas?  I wanted to avoid junk food/candy.  Most of the kids are under 3, but there will be 2 4 year old twin boys.

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tatoos? yoyos? bubbles?

 

Our zoo is ok, but I don't know how it stacks up agains the Denver Zoo or some of the bigger ones. We have a membership, so we go as often as we can to make use of it.

 

Maybe some organic gummy bears or lollipops?

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OOOOH I have a whole bag of organic lollipops from Easter!

We are doing a tattoo station during the party, so they'll all get tattoos.  If I have extra they can take them home.  I didn't get too many, maybe 30?  So.  They can take those home.

 

Bubbles are a good idea too!  Oooh I'm glad I asked you guys!  Thanks!

 

Finn took his first steps today!!  4 steps!  He walked to me and gave me a BIG HUG!  So proud of my boy!! love.gif

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Finn took his first steps today!!  4 steps!  He walked to me and gave me a BIG HUG!  So proud of my boy!! love.gif

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I'm terrible with goodie bags. I never know what to put in them.

Some people say they unschool everything except a certain subject or two, usually math and reading/writing. Diehard radical unschoolers say unschooling won't work very well if you do that. IDK I I just don't think it's necessary. shrug.gif

The boys are now on a Pokemon card kick so we went to Walmart and got starter game packs and little notebooks to keep the cards in. Ryan loved that when he was around Ethan's age but I was against it. Man, I was so silly back then!
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Finn took his first steps today!!  4 steps!  He walked to me and gave me a BIG HUG!  So proud of my boy!! love.gif

 

Yay! Go Finn!

 

akind1, love the names!

 

I was so tired this morning, I actually sat at the table and cried. I've finally accepted that I can't change Ava's sleep patterns. At this point, just hoping she'll outgrow them at some point.

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I was so tired this morning, I actually sat at the table and cried. I've finally accepted that I can't change Ava's sleep patterns. At this point, just hoping she'll outgrow them at some point.

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She WILL.  Have faith.  Trust her!  Maybe is something developmental going on?  Things are so awful here too, and I hope the walking fixes it.  

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