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post #141 of 287

Are your 1 year olds using forks yet?  Finn will use it if I set it up, but isn't loading his own yet.  Nora was by this time.  Thoughts?

post #142 of 287

I think that part of the reason why I was so upset and frustrated this morning was because I have been trying to get her on a "schedule" and hoping that would improve her sleep. She did better for a couple of days but as has always been the case with her, a few good days are always followed by a few bad days. I just let it get under my skin this morning. And I was tired. She ate on and off from when I got to bed at 1 AM until she woke for the day at 5 AM. Then I got her down for a nap at 8:30 AM and she slept for a grand total of 30 minutes. That's when I started crying. I was so tired. But I decided to just let it go. I do want DH to keep putting her to bed between 7-8 PM because I think she needs it and she does sleep better for the most part. But I just need to deal with the wake-ups. She's waking for a reason and it's not to piss me off!

 

Ava uses a fork if I load it for her and a couple of times, she's put stuff on the fork to feed to me but it hasn't been consistent.
 

post #143 of 287
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Oh, Annie, hug.gif. Hang in there. It will get better eventually.
post #144 of 287
Yes, hugs Lauri!! I hope you get a good night tonight!! It really will get better.

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post #145 of 287

Hmm.. maybe I jumped the gun on the whole no o'ing thing...

 

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1966df

 

Need coffee.  I'll be back. 

post #146 of 287

I am not the chart expert MW is, but that looks like O to me. (is this a yay or a boo?)

 

Annie - I hear you. I am often so tired I could cry. and sometimes I do. I am running on 4-5 hours of broken sleep, and I need, need, need to be getting more.

 

Norah is sleeping better, I think longer stretches. which means she's not wanting to nurse every hour, its maybe every 2-3. I am seriously considering hanging up the pump at work. It's uncomfortable and inconvienent. and I am only bringing home 2 oz a day, because I'm only pumping once. My second pump would normally fall within an hour or less of being home, and I don't want to drain what Norah's going to want to nurse as soon as I get home anyway.

 

Pokemon cards . . . eh. if they are your kids' thing, I guess. I just have never understood the point of them. (other than to just buy more) But I am sure there are people out there that do not understand a wrap obsession either! LOL

 

See, if there were a subject I think would need some direction, I would say it would be science. (you at the very least need some supervision with that stuff - labs and experiments, etc) Reading/writing . . . maybe at the high school level, when it comes to research, quoting, using sources, etc. My sister was homeschooled until 10th grade - I think it's just something the homeschool curricula didn't focus on -, and then the high school she went to sucked, and she never really learned how to do that stuff properly. It was a bit of a struggle for her in college.

 

Math, if you are into it, can be learned independently - even the higher stuff, though I think having text books help. while adding, subtracting, etc are part of everyday life, graphing quadratic equations, doing geometry proofs, and stuff like that I don't know you 'd find anywhere else. I think it also helps to have someone to ask questions to, and to work through problems with.

 

But before then? I do think it helps to have some groundwork in proper punctuation use, because even as an avid reader, I can admit that it's difficult to pick that stuff up just from reading. Diagraming sentences is something I never understood the point of, even if I kind of enjoyed it.

 

I am trying to figure out what the kids need for fall clothes. Gabe needs jeans. and some hoodies, a light jacket or two. Norah I think just needs clothes. I think she has some sleepers. and a couple outfits we've picked up on clearance here and there.  The new baby I can't shop for yet, because I want to know the gender first!

post #147 of 287

O is a good thing I think!  Not like I'm going to use it now, but eventually I might and it's good to know it can happen.  Though -- I still have my doubts that I buy it.  We shall see when AF arrives if it was O or a fluke.  Based off 28 day cycles, she should be here in a week and that's a short LP (which I had while nursing Nora).

 

Hooray on longer stretches!  2-3 hours is manageable, I think, but then again some days it's really not.  We had a nice night last night.  I could go for a repeat of that.   I don't mind getting up before 7 if he sleeps thru the night! (even with a nursing session thrown in...)

 

I hate math.  I'm so bad at it.

 

I think with clothes rules of 3 is good - 3 shirts, 3 bottoms - and then I got Finn the Carters jacket that's the fleece liner that zips into the shell.  That'll last thru fall and pretty much winter as long as he's got long sleeves under it.  He just will need gear if it snows.

post #148 of 287
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Yeah, Carrie, that looks like it could be O. I had ewcf yesterday and today, cd18 or 32 depending on where I start counting. I'm not temping but if I get af.gif at a reasonable time, I'll assume I Oed. I don't need to know for sure since I'm not concerned about ever getting pg again but I do need to be cautious since I don't want to get pg.

I've been trying to figure out winter clothes, too. It's hard in warmer states because stuff gets sold out before we even need it. I bought some snow boots for the boys from Zulily. At least Kellen and Dylan shouldn't need much, if any, new stuff. Ethan might need a whole new wardrobe.

Of course kids would need supervision with certain science experiments. Do you think unschooling means no supervision or assistance or facilitation? I'm getting the sense that you envision unschooling as being about leaving the children completely on their own. It's quite the opposite. Unschoolers will tell you that unschooling takes a lot more effort and interaction with your children than any other type of homeschooling.

As far as geometry, graphing quadratic equations, is knowing that necessary? I'm a science major and I have never used that outside of school. Most tens graduate high school with only general math classes. They don't take algebra and geometry. I'm not saying that people shouldn't learn that. I'm just questioning the idea that everyone needs to and that they can't learn it if they want/need to while unschooling.

A local group is having a "Breastfeeding Cafe" get-together today at 11. It's already 10:23. Ethan is still asleep. I sort of want to go but I sort of don't. I probably won't make it.

Oh, Carrie, I was reading this this morning and thought of you and your concerns about Nora not joining in at school or wherever it was. If she's an introvert, this may help you understand her better. http://www.carlkingdom.com/10-myths-about-introverts
post #149 of 287

That link, Alysia, is FABULOUS.  Not only am I nodding along in regards to Nora but man, is that ever DH to a TEE!

 

I mean to tell you guys this but have been busy.  Her teachers have been amazed at her lately coming "out of her shell".  She is initiating play with other kids!  Chatting and being outgoing which is HUGE for her.  Last time I went to pick her up, she was playing magna tiles with another girl who she's been getting friendly with.  We were on our way out and the other girl bent down to buckle her shoe, and Nora went over, kinda hesitated for a sec, and then bent down and gave her a quick hug and said, "Bye!"  Oh man did it ever bring a tear to my eye!!  I tried not to make a huge deal of it but inside i was just beaming!

 

Other than that yes yes YES to all those things.  Chris so gets labeled as the guy who can't have  a good time comes across rude, etc.  It's just he can't be bothered.  I know who he is at home and he sure can have fun!  Same with Nora.  I know who she is and how fun she can be.  I get sad that all people don't get to see it, but I just need to find a way to be ok with that.  She obviously doesn't care and doesn't think she is missing anything.  She just is who she is (same as DH).

 

Getting last min stuff today for the party.  I forgot pickles and I need a helium tank.

post #150 of 287

Do I think that graphing quadratic equations, etc is necessary? No, not at all. But if your kid is into math and wants to do higher level stuff, then I don't know how else they'd learn it, than through textbooks and problem solving. Geometry proofs are kind of silly, but they do help teach you logic - alot of If, then, statements.

 

I would hope unschooling requires supervision, and I know you interact with your kids. (alot of "homeschooling" is canned curriculum that a parent serves as proctor for, which I really am not a fan of) - but it does seem as if unschooling means less parent-directed activities - you let the kids lead, which is fine in some aspects, but I think not all. Again, I really think it depends on the child - I have been around some kids that really, really need direction. I know others that thrive in their own space with as little direction as possible. . I am admittedly still really new to the idea of unschooling. I need to read more. When I have some spare time LOL

 

Man, there is no way I could get by in a rule of 3. We sometimes go through that many clothes in a day! Last winter Gabe had 10-12 pairs of jeans/pants and that seemed like a good number for him. We are doing the Wittlebee  (autoship clothes) for him, which means I really don't need to get shirts, and  there will be some easy pants in there too. But probably not good jeans and maybe one or two pairs of slacks.

 

With Norah . . . she is such a messy eater! I think I could get by with 5-8 long sleeve, easy rompers and then a similiar number of cute outfits. And then pajamas . . . I do more clothes, because i only really do our laundry once a week or so.

 

the new baby will be a spring baby which means I can get away with less clothes. gowns, little cute rompers, and t-shirts and onesies for sleeping.

 

That introvert article is interesting. Gabe seems a lot like that, but IDK yet if it maybe is just typical toddler behavior. He usually clings to me a bit in public until he is ready to run amok. And he is such a follower.

post #151 of 287
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Man, there is no way I could get by in a rule of 3. 

 

Me either!  But it sure sounds good!  Ha!  I think it's a minimalist thing.  I, admittedly, am not a minimalist and am a bit of a clotheshorse!  Especially with my kids!!

 

Eeeek spring baby!  I cannot wait to find out what you're having!  Did you join your DDC here?  How is it?

 

My biggest tip offs with Nora really had more to do with how uninterested she is in others, and not only that but she isn't one to be rowdy at all (out and about).  She would rather sit and play in rocks than on the playground equipment.  She'll sit and play with a few sticks or leaves or make piles or towers rather than interact.  It's not being shy.  She just does not see anything fun about what the other kids are up to.

When we went to that spray ground was a great example.  Kids were playing, splashing, climbing, being silly.  She stood on the outskirts watching for probably half an hour, taking it all in.  Decided what she wanted to do - walk on the balance beam thing.  She went over to it, and took her time, and mastered it.  It was the only thing she did the entire 3 hours we were there.  I encouraged her to get wet b/c it was so hot, but she really pushed back and wanted NOTHING to do with that.  Nothing would make her "happy" in my eyes, except this balance beam.  So.  I let her just do her thing.  The other mom didn't get it.  She kept asking me if Nora was ok.  Her DD was running around crazy, splashing, making friends, chatting, etc.  Nora just has no desire to do any of those "typical" things, and I know now if I push, she clams up, withdraws, gets mad, and the whole trip turns into a fight.  I used to get angry that "she isn't enjoying herself" or seems "ungrateful" (which I used to complain about to Chris) but I am starting to learn her limits.  I am starting to figure out the difference b/w encouraging her vs pushing her.  And I try to help her find things we can do that aren't overstimulating.

 

it's hard b/c I am the life of the party and super social!  A lot of this is me just not understanding!

post #152 of 287

All kids are different, why push it? Both of my kids love being around other kids. Gabe will do whatever everyone else is doing, once he gets involved. It's getting him involved that's hard sometimes.

 

I love being social and being around people, but I have my limits. I have few close friends. My sister has a lot of friends, but none are super close. I have a hard time understanding her. Some of those things on the introvert list ring true for me, but I don't really think I'm introverted.

 

I joined the Feb DDC bc I already know a couple people from Norah's DDC that are in it. But not really active in it. The first trimester is usually about so much loss and what not and I don't like to observe that (I respect it, but avoid it).

 

I can't wait either! it will be close to halloween before we know for sure. *sigh* I think Norah and Gabe are going to be a princess and a Frog.

 

Are you dressing up Nora and Finn?

post #153 of 287

I guess more than push I mean persuade, b/c sometimes it's a fear -- the try it you'll like it kind of hesitation.  Once she tries it she likes it and is happy I asked her to try.  Other times not so much.

 

Oh yes we do costumes!  Idk what yet.  No ideas!

 

I don't blame you for waiting out the 1st tri.  I never did that but I am def less active on the boards in the first few weeks for sure...

post #154 of 287
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it's hard b/c I am the life of the party and super social!  

i kind of figured that, which is why i thought you might like that list. it describes me perfectly.

Both Ethan and Kellen like to play with other kids. Ethan needs more down time than Kellen, though. There are times throughout the day when he will come inside and just chill for a while. Kellen, on the other hand, is always looking for someone to play with. Ryan says he needs downtime, too. He plans days off work sometimes to hang out by himself.

kat ~ i bet you'd really like unschooling. i think a lot of your concerns or misgivings are based on misunderstandings. two things that jump out at me are that, first, you can't use info gleaned from knowing people who weren't unschooled to make conclusions about how and when unschooling may or may not work, and second, unschooling does not mean that you or your children can't use textbooks or more formal, structured forms of learning. All of that is fine as long as it's not being forced on the child. Many times if an unschooled teen wants to learn geometry they will use textbooks, and/or tutors and/or take classes, usually at a community college. The difference between that and going to school is that the teen has made the choice to do it and can stop at any time. They usually do very well if they decide to do that in spite of never being in a class type setting before.
post #155 of 287

I'm definitely more of an introvert and DH is an extrovert and so far DD is turning out to be an extrovert. When we have been going downtown in the mornings to hang out at the library or whatever, DD makes an audible noise of pleasure when she sees another kid. She goes "MMMMMMHHHHHHHMMMM!" and reaches out for them like she wants to hug/bite/kiss/love them. It's hilarious.

 

I need to start looking at costumes for DD. It's so hard because we are never sure if it's going to be hot at Halloween or cold...makes choosing a costume very difficult! I was looking at the halloween stuff on the Carter's site yesterday. I have a gift card for DD from Kohl's, I need to go get her some stuff.

 

AFM, DD slept better last night and she took two decent naps today. I'm happy with that. She's not going to be a kid that gives up her middle of the night eating any time soon. And I'm ok with that.
 

post #156 of 287
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Ethan announced that we should all be zombies this year. I've been trying to figure out how to do that in my head. I'm terrible at doing halloween makeup. I need to look up some ideas online.

We did make it to the breastfeeding thing this morning. It was ok. We've got park day tomorrow. My introverted self is getting overwhelmed by all this socializing. lol.gif
post #157 of 287
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I'm definitely more of an introvert and DH is an extrovert and so far DD is turning out to be an extrovert. When we have been going downtown in the mornings to hang out at the library or whatever, DD makes an audible noise of pleasure when she sees another kid. She goes "MMMMMMHHHHHHHMMMM!" and reaches out for them like she wants to hug/bite/kiss/love them. It's hilarious.

 

I need to start looking at costumes for DD. It's so hard because we are never sure if it's going to be hot at Halloween or cold...makes choosing a costume very difficult! I was looking at the halloween stuff on the Carter's site yesterday. I have a gift card for DD from Kohl's, I need to go get her some stuff.

 

AFM, DD slept better last night and she took two decent naps today. I'm happy with that. She's not going to be a kid that gives up her middle of the night eating any time soon. And I'm ok with that.
 

 

Have you read anything about nightweaning?  I know it's no guarantee that she'll sleep better but was curious where your head was about that.  I know you have a different situation but was just wondering where you are.

 

I'm thinking about it already.

 

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Ethan announced that we should all be zombies this year. I've been trying to figure out how to do that in my head. I'm terrible at doing halloween makeup. I need to look up some ideas online.
We did make it to the breastfeeding thing this morning. It was ok. We've got park day tomorrow. My introverted self is getting overwhelmed by all this socializing. lol.gif

 

Ha - no idea on zombie makeup other than just gray/white to cover the face, white hair spray paint, and dark around the eyes?  Maybe some blood dripping from mouths?  Could be fun!

 

Nora I think wants to do something like a fireman or a doctor.  She's really into "what to be" when she grows up.  We'll see.  She'll probably do a 180 on me and pick a princess dress again, lol.

 

I'm up printing stuff for the party.  I decided I need to do more water bottles.  Shoot me!  This is so much work!!  dizzy.gif

post #158 of 287
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Have you read anything about nightweaning?  I know it's no guarantee that she'll sleep better but was curious where your head was about that.  I know you have a different situation but was just wondering where you are.

 

I'm thinking about it already.

 

Yeah I did start thinking about it and that's part of why I was in such a bad head space the other day when she wouldn't sleep. I was thinking about how a lot of times when she stirs, I put the bottle in her mouth and she's kind of sucking it but more for comfort and then she goes back to sleep. And the more I analyzed it and briefly considered trying to get her to take a paci again, etc. then I was getting pissed at her for waking. It just wasn't a good path for me to start down. If I pushed it and was hardcore, she'd probably give up the bottles at night. But I'm not going to push her. It will happen. Maybe not in a month or six months or even a year but I'm ok with that.

post #159 of 287

If I thougth Norah would go for it, I'd nightwean. But not a chance. Even with my low supply, there are times that she will not be satisfied with anything other than boob, which can be trying. Something about nursing while pregnant makes me feel very done with nursing - which I don't feel when I'm not pregnant. I do really, really want her to wean during the pregnancy though - not before she's one, but at some point. I just don't think I'm cut out to tandem.

 

Last night's sleep sucked. up every hour or so to nurse.

 

appointment this morning - yay. Nausea is strong this morning. ugh.

post #160 of 287

You know you want to see:

 

 

measuring a little ahead at 11+6, but that's fine, as long as they keep the original due date.  Doc couldn't get the heartbeat on doppler, so took a quick peek. Baby is a squirmy little thing <3

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