Dr Took Son from her Arms to Forcibly Vaccinate

[emmy526]

http://crunchyowlmama.blogspot.com/2012/08/cmon-sheeple-light-up-another-camel.html

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 Then the student dr tried to take my son from my arms, and as he was reaching for him the ped tells me "your son will be receiving 14 vaccinations today, Mrs. Ramsey." 

Yes, you read that correctly FOURTEEN in ONE day.

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The ped goes on about how I am not thinking of the best interest of my child and how I'm going to kill him and that he WILL be getting the vaccines today and more every month until he is up to date in full.  His voice is beginning to raise by now and the look on his face stern. "this is for the best Mrs Ramsey so be compliant." he says to me as for a 3rd time the student dr tries to take Adam from my arms, this time a little more assertively. 

[leafylady]

what an idiotic doctor. If he really wanted to have a chance to convince her to vaccinate he would have ongoing logical compassionate discussions with her, not scare her off with force and intimidation. He's a bully and wasn't truly concerned for her child.

[WildKingdom]

I'm sorry, that story is complete and utter bs. There aren't even 14 vaccines on the schedule for a 2 year old. Even in this doctor was going to give every single vaccine, it still doesn't add up.

Hep b
Hep a
PVC
DPT
MMR
Varicella
IPV
HiB

Counting each one separately, that's 12.

[kathymuggle]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

I'm sorry, that story is complete and utter bs. There aren't even 14 vaccines on the schedule for a 2 year old.
Counting each one separately, that's 12.

Maybe the doctor wanted to add in RV and flu? In any event, possibly getting a detail wrong (12 versus 14) does not mean the story is bs.   It might be,  but who knows?  My crystal ball is broken.

Edited by kathymuggle - 8/2/12 at 9:38am

[WildKingdom]

Rv is not given to two year olds. Flu shot is not given this time of year.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

 Flu shot is not given this time of year.

Hmmm... then why is Kmart offering free flu vaccines for your kids if you spend $100 or more on back to school supplies? 12 or 14, doesn't show your profession in a good light does it?

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

Hmmm... then why is Kmart offering free flu vaccines for your kids if you spend $100 or more on back to school supplies? 12 or 14, doesn't show your profession in a good light does it?

When did I start working at Kmart?

[Alenushka]

I think this storyn is fake.

No matter how you count there would ot be 14 vaccines.

No medical student would do something like this because the punishment would be too sever.

A doctor would not do soemthing like this. This is physical assault and procedures are done wihout consent only by court order or expreme emergency or under 5150.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

Hmmm... then why is Kmart offering free flu vaccines for your kids if you spend $100 or more on back to school supplies? 12 or 14, doesn't show your profession in a good light does it?

When did I start working at Kmart?

The reference to Kmart is because flu shots are obviously being administered NOW. The difference between you and Kmart, doctor, is you charge for flu shots and they are giving them away "free".

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

The reference to Kmart is because flu shots are obviously being administered NOW. The difference between you and Kmart, doctor, is you charge for flu shots and they are giving them away "free".

That's the difference between me and Kmart? Oooookay, then.

[ma2two]

This story is so obviously fake because no doctor would ever count the number of vaccines incorrectly.

Or did he count them incorrectly?

hepatitis B

diphtheria

tetanus

pertussis

Hib

pneumococcal

polio

flu (yes, they are currently giving flu shots in the U.S.) I couldn't escape the advertisements at RiteAid today.

measles

mumps

rubella

varicella

hepatitis A

meningococcal

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/child/0-6yrs-schedule-pr.pdf

That's 14.

[Alenushka]

There is immunological rhyme and reason for sequence and combination of the vaccines. So, not one would give all 14 together. It would render some of them not so effect ice.

Also, it would not be 14 shots because of combos.  

[WildKingdom]

Meningococcus is not on the schedule unless a child is immune compromised or asplenic.

You made the same mistake that she did when she counted the shots and made up her story.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

Meningococcus is not on the schedule unless a child is immune compromised or asplenic.

You made the same mistake that she did when she counted the shots and made up her story.

You don't know she made up the story. For all you know the doctor did threaten to give her child 14 shots. He might have been trying to "teach her a lesson" for daring to defy the holy rite of vaccination, because without the baptism of vaccination we are all damned doomed.

[triscuitsmom]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

Meningococcus is not on the schedule unless a child is immune compromised or asplenic.
You made the same mistake that she did when she counted the shots and made up her story.

Agreed.

Probably not Hep A either unless I am reading the CDC website wrong. It appears that it is only given after 24 months to those who are high risk or who live in states where a widespread mandatory vaccination program is in place (ie it is required for school/daycare) which Indiana is not on that list (which is her location according to the blog.

[emmy526]

Around here they offer the flu shot as did my dh's pulmonologist offered it to him last week,  and it's becoming a year round available vaccine.......and i can't think of any reason why someone would want to make up a story like that.  

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

Rv is not given to two year olds. Flu shot is not given this time of year.

[triscuitsmom]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

You don't know she made up the story. For all you know the doctor did threaten to give her child 14 shots. He might have been trying to "teach her a lesson" for daring to defy the holy rite of vaccination, because without the baptism of vaccination we are all damned doomed.

Yeah maybe. Or maybe it makes a great story to add to the paranoia for which people who are anti vaccination get famous for.

I don't think that anyone should vaccinate their child or not vaccinate their child without knowing what the actual research says. I do know that that doing no research and vaccinating is far more common than doing no research and not vaccinating. However the rampant paranoia and hysteria does NOTHING to make the situation better. It makes it worse and it makes it so that people here on MDC who are new and trying to make good decisions have to weed through a bunch of blown out of proportion crap (I mean this in general terms, not specific to this blog post) in order to get any real answers that could actually help make good solid choices.

[WildKingdom]

Interesting. She's taken the doctor's name off her post. Someone must have clued her in that libel is a crappy idea.

[WildKingdom]

And now she's made her blog private.

Yup, no reason there to doubt her sincerity!

[kathymuggle]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

And now she's made her blog private.

Yup, no reason there to doubt her sincerity!

..or she did not like her blog being discussed over here.  

Having privacy concerns has little to do with whether or not her story is true.

Edited by kathymuggle - 8/2/12 at 6:58pm