Nursing Mamas TTC in August - Page 2

[LivingSky]

Lidamama - Done!

boomer - Do you want to be moved to success stories, or hold off a bit?

[Lynann]

Can I just say that I am hating my hormones right now.

I am exclusively pumping as DS2 would not stop biting me and he has now been getting his breastmilk in a straw sippy cup for a couple of weeks. I still have plenty of milk, so as much as pumping can be a pain I'll be continuing on for as long as I can. That said last night at my final pump for the day as soon as letdown happened I started feeling nauseous. It was so bad I could barely brush my teeth without throwing up. Then I couldn't get to sleep for hours as I really felt like I would throw up if I lay down too flat. This morning my temp is the lowest it has ever been (96.81) so I'm pretty sure it is probably just all the hormone fluctuations.

Why can't my body just be predictable like it used to be.

Congratulations Boomer, hope you have a very sticky bean.

[jen&james]

Come on body just ovulate!!!  I have been having EWCM and ovary discomfort for days no. We DTD last night and i was tender on both ovaries but still no pos. OPK.  It would be cycle day 19 if you count from when I had that tiny bit of spotting which in the past I have O'd anywhere from CD 17-19.  I hope it happens soon.  My body is trying :/ I guess my 20mo old waking ot nurse like a newborn last night probably didn't help.

[nstewart]

So I think maybe I've O'd early this cycle??  I've had 4 days of fertile CM and now today appear to be drying up.  I think I'm on CD13 (you count the day that AF arrives as CD1, right?)  It's been a long time since I read TCOYF so please, remind me of two basics:

1) Is CD1 the day AF arrives, or the following day?  If it is the day AF arrives, what if she arrives in the evening?

2) Is O day (based on CM only) the day before CM dries up?  Or the day before that?

Anyway, maybe I'll have another surge of CM but if not, I've never O'd this early (like day 11 or 12??) and was normally Oing on day 15, and last month day 14.  Good think we were on holidays and had the time and energy to BD a couple times in the last few days!

[Lynann]

Originally Posted by nstewart 

So I think maybe I've O'd early this cycle??  I've had 4 days of fertile CM and now today appear to be drying up.  I think I'm on CD13 (you count the day that AF arrives as CD1, right?)  It's been a long time since I read TCOYF so please, remind me of two basics:

1) Is CD1 the day AF arrives, or the following day?  If it is the day AF arrives, what if she arrives in the evening?

2) Is O day (based on CM only) the day before CM dries up?  Or the day before that?

Anyway, maybe I'll have another surge of CM but if not, I've never O'd this early (like day 11 or 12??) and was normally Oing on day 15, and last month day 14.  Good think we were on holidays and had the time and energy to BD a couple times in the last few days!

I've never read TCOYF, but I've always counted the day AF arrives as CD1, even if she arrives in the evening. Also for CM I always thought O was the day after the biggest stretchiness in EWCM, but the last couple of cycles I've only had a few hours of actual EWCM but lots of watery CM for the next few days and then the temp shift that marks O at about the same time the CM starts to dry up. I used to know all my fertility signs really well, but this is my first go at TTC while lactating and I'm more confused by my body than I've ever been.

AFM more nausea today, and if it wasn't for my temps I'd be very suspicious that I was actually pregnant and that the very light AF wasn't really AF, BUT my temps say it was definitely AF at the weekend. I don't even want to think about the other possibility, and that I'm loosing my fertility for good (I turn 40 this coming Monday) which isn't completely out of the question either.

Has anyone else experienced nausea during letdown, or am I just a total freak?

[nstewart]

Originally Posted by Lynann 

I've never read TCOYF, but I've always counted the day AF arrives as CD1, even if she arrives in the evening. Also for CM I always thought O was the day after the biggest stretchiness in EWCM, but the last couple of cycles I've only had a few hours of actual EWCM but lots of watery CM for the next few days and then the temp shift that marks O at about the same time the CM starts to dry up. I used to know all my fertility signs really well, but this is my first go at TTC while lactating and I'm more confused by my body than I've ever been.

AFM more nausea today, and if it wasn't for my temps I'd be very suspicious that I was actually pregnant and that the very light AF wasn't really AF, BUT my temps say it was definitely AF at the weekend. I don't even want to think about the other possibility, and that I'm loosing my fertility for good (I turn 40 this coming Monday) which isn't completely out of the question either.

Has anyone else experienced nausea during letdown, or am I just a total freak?

Ok, thanks.  So then maybe today is O day, as I still had good CM last night and am drying up today.  Counting the day AF arrives as CD1, that would mean I am Oing on CD14, which then makes sense.  Guess I'll have to try to jump DH tonight just in case.

I haven't experienced letdown in a long time (like the actual feeling), but yes, I have had that experience a few times.  I think it's just the rush of hormones that can cause it.  Is there any chance the temps are somehow wrong?  You could POAS just to confirm...although if you're sure its just maybe a waste...

[Lynann]

I only have 1 test left and I'm trying to talk myself into leaving it alone. I am glad to read that it is possible to get nauseous from plain old hormone surges and not just from being pregnant. It gives me hope that my body still knows what it is doing even if I don't.

Hope you manage to get good timing this month and get your BFP in 2 weeks.

[boomer78]

Originally Posted by Lynann 

I only have 1 test left and I'm trying to talk myself into leaving it alone. I am glad to read that it is possible to get nauseous from plain old hormone surges and not just from being pregnant. It gives me hope that my body still knows what it is doing even if I don't.

Hope you manage to get good timing this month and get your BFP in 2 weeks.

I have not experienced a let down in a very long time but, I clearly remember feeling extremely nauseous during cycles when I clearly wasn't pregnant. So for me, yes, hormones can definitely cause this. But we're all different. I'm admiring you for holding off to test (regardless of what your temps say). :)

[boomer78]

Originally Posted by LivingSky 

Lidamama - Done!
boomer - Do you want to be moved to success stories, or hold off a bit?

Let's hold off for now. Thank you. :)

[Lidamama84]

Lynann, I get really queasy for a few seconds every time DD nurses, and if I'm eating I feel totally repulsed by food. I thought I was just weird, though, lol!

[Lidamama84]

So I have a cycle-related question. After my first DD, when AF returned, my cycles were really short, like 23-25 days. I wonder if the shorter cycles mean that I will have more trouble conceiving? Or could this just be normal? I don't know what my cycles were like pre-children, because I never tracked, but I wonder if my cycles could be shortening as I get older (I'm almost 28). Thoughts?

[erigeron]

Lidamama, I don't know if your cycles might have changed since having your baby, but my cycles have always been 21-25 days and I didn't have trouble getting pregnant with my daughter. I understand between 21-35 day cycles are considered normal.

AFM, some EWCF yesterday and we BDed last night, also have had O pain today and yesterday so I think we have a pretty decent chance this month. Also we put in an offer on a house yesterday and today learned it has been accepted, so we've got a busy couple of months ahead of us! If I'm not pregnant this time, I think we might hold off for a couple of months until things settle down... but that decision will be made later if necessary.

[boomer78]

Originally Posted by Lidamama84 

So I have a cycle-related question. After my first DD, when AF returned, my cycles were really short, like 23-25 days. I wonder if the shorter cycles mean that I will have more trouble conceiving? Or could this just be normal? I don't know what my cycles were like pre-children, because I never tracked, but I wonder if my cycles could be shortening as I get older (I'm almost 28). Thoughts?

My cycles were around 30 days before I got pregnant and usually 24 days after (rarely 28 or 26). I've gotten pregnant twice since (one mc). It could mean I could only get pregnant on the random longer cycles and not the short ones but the first pregnancy resulted from bd on day 8 or 9. My LP seems to be about 12 days now (it's just my guess) so a 26-28 day cycle (and a later ovulation) seems unlikely for that month. Maybe I'm wrong though. :) A friend of mine has always had 23-24 day cycles and has 2 children. I don't think it automatically means less of a chance of getting pregnant.

[boomer78]

Congrats on buying a house! That is a perfect time to get pregnant - when you feel like you may have to put ttc on hold for a while. It seems to work for me. :)

Originally Posted by erigeron 

Lidamama, I don't know if your cycles might have changed since having your baby, but my cycles have always been 21-25 days and I didn't have trouble getting pregnant with my daughter. I understand between 21-35 day cycles are considered normal.

AFM, some EWCF yesterday and we BDed last night, also have had O pain today and yesterday so I think we have a pretty decent chance this month. Also we put in an offer on a house yesterday and today learned it has been accepted, so we've got a busy couple of months ahead of us! If I'm not pregnant this time, I think we might hold off for a couple of months until things settle down... but that decision will be made later if necessary.

[Lynann]

Originally Posted by Lidamama84 

So I have a cycle-related question. After my first DD, when AF returned, my cycles were really short, like 23-25 days. I wonder if the shorter cycles mean that I will have more trouble conceiving? Or could this just be normal? I don't know what my cycles were like pre-children, because I never tracked, but I wonder if my cycles could be shortening as I get older (I'm almost 28). Thoughts?

My cycles have been a bit all over the place since DS2 but I have noticed a much shorter Luteal Phase. I did notice my AF got a lot lighter in my late 20s and have continued to be fairly light ever since (I turn 40 on Monday.) I did think that the light AF may effect my fertility, but I have had a couple of chemicals and 3 pregnancies since getting married and becoming sexually active as a result, so the lightness definitely doesn't seem to have had an impact. I conceived DS1 6 weeks after my miscarriage (12wks) and then conceived DS2 on my 3rd postpartum cycle when DS1 was 6 months old. (But I wasn't nursing, long story etc.) I'm now on my 5th postpartum cycle with DS2 and this will be my 3rd cycle charting and actually TTC, and the only difference from before is that I'm still lactating, so my best educated guess is that FOR ME lactation has been delaying O and shortening my LP.

This morning however I just had a temp jump like I usually get with O, but I'm only on CD7 so right now I continue to just wait and see what happens. Last cycle I looked like I O'd twice with the second one just 2 days before AF showed at 10DPO, and now another possible O just 9 days later. I'm trying not to obsess about it, and I do like the idea of twins at this point, especially if its from a double ovulation, but I also know it could be my body going peri-menopausal as my own mum went peri-menopausal in her early 40s and full menopausal by 45. I'd really love more children before that happens, but before I got married just 5 years ago I didn't think I'd have any children, so I know how blessed I am to have the two wonderful boys I have, and the precious babies in heaven too.

[LivingSky]

My cycles have been the opposite since they came back after DS was born - a bit longer than before and a bit later O. I used to O between CD16-18 and now I'm more like CD19-22, and my cycles are accordingly a few days longer.

So, I'm out for the month. I had actually given myself permission to test early, today, instead of Saturday, because my mom is going away and I wouldn't be able to reach her with the news after today. But my temp tanked this morning before I had a chance to POAS, so I didn't bother. Looks like I've started spotting now so AF should be here in full force by this evening. BLAH. We had such great timing, and the timing for birth would have been awesome as well, so I had let myself get excited. From here on out, the timing of a babe May or later next year would be terrible unless it wasn't until October or later. But, we'll keep trying anyways because I don't feel that I'm young enough to skip months just because of inconvenient timing!

[nstewart]

Sorry about AF Livingsky. 

Please move me to 2WW.  Pretty sure I've O'd.

I will not test until August 25th.  There, I've said it.  No more wasting tests.

I'm hoping timing was good, and am going to make an effort to go to bed earlier for the rest of this cycle.  The amount of rest/sleep I get seems to affect my luteal phase.

[Lynann]

So sorry you missed out this month LivingSky. Timing isn't always ideal, but so sorry you missed your perfect time for a due date.

nstewart, I've never thought about going to bed earlier helping with LP issues. I may have to try that this month too.

AFM. Along with the big temp dip yesterday (96.81) followed by the big rise today (97.52) I also have noticed that I have lots of CM, which I don't usually have straight after AF. I was really light this month and Sunday & Monday were both mostly just spotting, but also mucusy too. So I'm almost sure I'm ovulated yesterday or earlier today. I guess its a good thing we DTD last night, or we would have missed this one. I'll wait a few days to see if my temps stay up though just to make sure. If I hadn't been temping I would not have realized I had O this early.

[nstewart]

Originally Posted by Lynann 

nstewart, I've never thought about going to bed earlier helping with LP issues. I may have to try that this month too.

I discovered this in May, when DS went through a BRUTAL stretch for sleep, with, by extension meant I did too.  I also had a work trip to NYC which involved several late nights out and not enough sleep.  I had a 7 day luteal phase, my shortest ever, which made me suspect that the rest/sleep issue was part of it.  This was confirmed for me when I started seeing a naturopath.  He's instructed me to "do less" and go to bed earlier on CDs 21-28 (or from 6 days after O onwards, depending on when you O), as well as to take some supps that seem to mostly be a B vitamin complex in order to bring my progesterone up.  I think that getting more sleep over the whole cycle would be better yet than just CD21-28.

[jr'smom]

Please move me to:

Waiting to O

5 months TTC #5, DD 15 mos.

AF arrived yesterday.  This was my shortest cycle ever...23 days.  According to my O pains, I still had a 13 to 14 day LP so that's not bad, right?  In the past I would have a very classic 28 day cycle only occasionally a day longer or shorter.  My LP has always been about 14 days.  Since I've been TTC this time around, I've had one very long cycle (suspect early miscarriage since I had very faint BFPs) and a few pretty short cycles like this one.  Why?  DD is still nursing pretty often.  I am 39 1/2...is this perimenopause?  I figure it's not really a problem to ttc if my LP is still 14 days, right?  Otherwise I would see my doctor  for progesterone cream.