The thought hasn't even crossed my mind, because we made the decision a long time ago that any boys born into our family would be intact. Our first is circed. I really didn't know that not doing it was an option. Both my father and FIL are intact, and never said a word about it. I wish someone would have told me that I didn't have to do it...then I found MDC. Dh and I argues about the issue for a while before and during my pregnancy, but ds2 was born at home, and it never came up. A few months down the road, he started educating himself, and said he was so glad that we chose to leave the decision up to ds2, and really regrets circing ds1, as do I.
For those having boys important info to consider - Page 2
If this one is a boy he'll be intact like his two brothers. Circumcision is one of those things, if you educate yourself about it there is no way you will do it! It is *that obvious* of a choice. Unfortunately too many are ignorant or choose to stay that way to fit into 'perceived' cultural norms. I say perceived because education has resulted in national rates of infant circ being much lower than most people who circ think they are.
Thanks for this info! I never thought about it until I was pregnant with my first and just assumed we would circ because of "health" and religious reasons. My DH is and all my brothers.
I happened to bring it up in front of friends of ours from NZ and AU and they were shocked, said no one was over there. Made me start researching and thinking about it. Well, we've had two girls so it hasn't been an issue but now #3 is a boy and I am definitely not going to allow him to be circ'd. We are very strong Christians and I researched it from that perspective and I realized that yes, they did circ in Old Testament times but after Jesus came and died for us infant baptism replaced circ as the sign of His blessing. No longer was it only limited to Jewish boys but to all, male, female, Jew or Gentile. Anyway, after I realized that I decided there was no way I would chop a part of my son off just because it is a common cultural thing or for some vague "health" reason. (I live in North TX and all of my friends have circ'd their boys) If it becomes an issue when he is older I am proud that we'll be able to talk to him and share our reasons about how we did our research and went against the common thought of the time.
Hope I haven't gotten off track on this subject but if there are any other Christians who are concerned about Biblical reasons to circ I would really advise you to research this topic. One of our pastors at church did a lesson on this topic and it was very helpful.
I do not want to offend anyone but I would just challenge anyone who is pro-circ to really research and ask themselves why they want to do this.
Exactly. It makes me sick to think about all the poor babies born in hospitals only hours old, having a piece of their penis chopped off :(
Mamas--I love that you are sharing your knowledge and love of intact penises on this thread, however, I do want the tone of this thread to stay in the vein of sharing information and not judging others choices. Although I am a passionate intactivist I know that all mamas do the best for their children with what resources they have at the time. That being said, many women have made informed choices to circumcise and then discovered that it was not the right choice for their sons only AFTER the fact. I know that these mamas feel deep remorse and are pained by the realization that they feel they did make the mistake. My goal here isn't to alienate anyone--even those who have or are choosing to circumcise--we are all on our own journeys and thus not in the same place at the same time. There is room for us all. While some of us may have been lucky enough to not have THIS been one of our parenting mistakes or regrets we will make our own in another area somewhere, sometime.
Also, I don't want the call for more education in this area to stigmatize boys and men who are circumcised.
Just sharing info!! Please feel free to share your experiences in that vein, but let's stay conscious of our tone and remember our compassion for each other.
Share links, share YOUR experience with making this decision, share your regret or remorse. Let's just keep it respectful and on the topic of INTACTIVISM ; ) no debating about pro circ. This is just a place for those really looking for info about why NOT to circumcise and everything that comes with that.
love and light~~
Mamaharrison - good reminders, thanks!
I want to share a conversation DH and I had the other day. He's an operating room nurse and has to regularly catheterize people. He had recently had to catheterize another old uncircumcised man at work and found the foreskin tight and dirty underneath. It's interesting, because he's generally fine not circumcising, but he gets concerned when he sees these situations. I said that I thought that was probably an unusual situation (although he's seen it fairly often). I said well, you're supposed to clean under the foreskin. I wonder if these men are not able to do that anymore, that they are too ill or something. He said that usually these are not healthy men. I asked if he found old women to not be clean in their labia when he has to catheterize them - he said he did. I said - it sounds like lack of cleanliness are the least of these people's issues at this point and was that a reason to circumcise all baby boys? It was like a light went off - he agreed...