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post #21 of 79
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Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ View Post

im very sorry i ever thought to single out his particular germ theory issues as one of the dozens of reasons i think the guys i complete hack, i didn't need to, everything i read about him screeems snake oil salesman.


 

 

 Please list some of the many things you think makes Doctor Moulden a hack. Perhaps we can have an intelligent discussion instead of name calling.

 

TIA.

post #22 of 79

I knew him personally.  First off, he has never worked as a licensed MD anywhere.  He also told me many lies about himself and I caught him in them.  However, I didn't call him on the lies, because I felt he had some sort of hidden agenda.  When he says he speaks of the truth, well those are only partial truths.  Some of what he has to say is true in the vaccination world, however, alot of points have been ALREADY been proven by other doctors, he is simply relaying.  I ended up doing my own investigation on him.  This is what I found:  He "claims" to have found the link between Autism(also various other illnesses) and vaccinations, however, he hasn't.  He hasn't yet been able to prove his "theory" (thats RIGHT, its ONLY A THEORY) because there are no medical devices in the world that can prove it!  He has ruined his reputation within the medical field because of his actions.  I hope that my input has assisted many of you.  Sending you all my best!

post #23 of 79
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Originally Posted by Dahlia3 View Post

I knew him personally.  First off, he has never worked as a licensed MD anywhere.  He also told me many lies about himself and I caught him in them.  However, I didn't call him on the lies, because I felt he had some sort of hidden agenda.  When he says he speaks of the truth, well those are only partial truths.  Some of what he has to say is true in the vaccination world, however, alot of points have been ALREADY been proven by other doctors, he is simply relaying.  I ended up doing my own investigation on him.  This is what I found:  He "claims" to have found the link between Autism(also various other illnesses) and vaccinations, however, he hasn't.  He hasn't yet been able to prove his "theory" (thats RIGHT, its ONLY A THEORY) because there are no medical devices in the world that can prove it!  He has ruined his reputation within the medical field because of his actions.  I hope that my input has assisted many of you.  Sending you all my best!

 Look, Im not saying I think Andrew Moulden is legit or not. Im leaning towards not, HOWEVER. I find it suspect that you have never posted on MDC before until this very post? thats strange to me. Also the fact that he never worked as an MD anywhere is irrelevant since he CHOSE to follow a different path and persued his PhD. I took courses and got licensed to be a dog trainer many years ago, yet never pursued a career in this and chose to obtain another degree and do something else. Doesn't mean that I wasn't a legitimate dog trainer. Anyway heres an interview with him.

 

http://vactruth.com/2009/07/21/dr-andrew-moulden-interview-what-you-were-never-told-about-vaccines/

 

Again, I smell some BS here too, but lets be clear that history is littered with people who are labeled quacks and discredited when they speak out again an "established" truth.

 

Look at Bernce Eddy. She was a research scientist at the NIH working on the polio vaccine. She discovered that the vaccine caused tumors (later to be known as SV-40) - she was ordered to keep silent by her superiors - she didn't and she was discredited, demoted and lost her laboratory and funding. - (her position of polio control officer was taken away from her) - all that for simply doing the right thing (which we now know to be true).

post #24 of 79
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Originally Posted by Marnica View Post.

 

Look at Bernce Eddy. She was a research scientist at the NIH working on the polio vaccine. She discovered that the vaccine caused tumors (later to be known as SV-40) - she was ordered to keep silent by her superiors - she didn't and she was discredited, demoted and lost her laboratory and funding. - (her position of polio control officer was taken away from her) - all that for simply doing the right thing (which we now know to be true).

 

How in the world can this be "explained"?

 

Who would not want to stop the dissemination of a cancer causing "vaccine"? Why would a whistle blower like Doctor Eddy be punished for trying to save millions from cancer?

 

http://unseenworld.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/polio-dr-bernice-eddy-and-sv40-the-monkey-virus/

 

Why; it happens all the time when medical professionals attempt to warn us of the "deadly vaccine agenda". Doctor Moulden like Doctor Eddy is just one more victim.

post #25 of 79

ok is that is for real, that man is even way less stable than i thought.  i cant believe i just sat thru 15 min of that.

 

i agree that medical establishment hiding and discrediting folks that make them feel threatened does happen, there is many documented cases of that. this is just a flipping crazy guy with a strangely bloated self image

post #26 of 79

Told you he was a quack. ;)

post #27 of 79

Sadly, I also believe this to be true.

post #28 of 79

Well forgive me for caring about the general population!  Ever since I figured things out for myself I have felt sick to my stomache that I ever gave the guy a chance!  Before he was hospitalized recently he applied for work at my family doctors' office.  The weird thing is he applied under a different name and then didn't even show up for the interview!  I have a caring heart and I just thought I could be of assistance to you folks.  Just because I have never posted on this forum ever before doesn't mean squat!  I wish you all the best in life!  Follow your guts AND hearts! 

post #29 of 79

Yep, this is for real!  He was arrested for uttering threats and then hospitalized for 3 weeks on a psych.ward.  He has lost his rights to practice medicine.  He posted all of this info on his facebook page, this is how I know!

post #30 of 79

what is actually sad here is the same thing that bums me out about a lot of discussion on the issues of medicine and maybe vaccines in particular, but i can see it happen a lot in food issues, allergies and the like as well. (its all connected, we are one body)

 

it's that there very well may be some really info that needs to researched and understood, some real dangers or at least huge unknowns that need to be acknowledged and admitted too, studied in a honest peer review, double blind sort of way and told honestly to the folks that need this info, the end user as well as the policy makers.

 

but when folks go too far, when they cloud a legitimate issue with an outlandish claim it hurts everyone's chances of finding out the truth. Too often on both sides of the issue, scientific pursuit gets run over by the pursuit of glory, fame and nearly always riches. Folks in the middle get turned off, rightfully so, by the crazy fringe and assume those folks have a point as invalid as their approach. In the case of this guy, I doubt I'm missing much, but others may in fact have good points being lost in all the shouting.

 

I'm one of those folks that feels that there is just too much info we dont know about vaccines for instance, but I'm a fan of pure untainted science and i find too little of it to really help me. I look and I read and do my best to read between the lines, see who is funding studies and who ordered them, when. But then we find reports being faked and studies having their statistics twisted beyond usefulness and we are left with less and less to make our hopefully informed choices with.

 

So right now I have decided to do a slow and steady schedule of vaxing my toddlers and some days I'm pretty mad that this is the best I can come up with, that I'm not given a full deck to play this hand with, that I feel that i'm stuck picking from the what I hope is the lessor of two evils. This is not the way medicine and health are supposed to happen, we are smarter than this. some day we are going to realize that we are smart enough to say that there are huge things we don't know and maybe even can't know, and then hopefully we will be brave enough to slow down and be as worried about that as we are about the things we claim to know.

post #31 of 79
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Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ View Post

what is actually sad here is the same thing that bums me out about a lot of discussion on the issues of medicine and maybe vaccines in particular, but i can see it happen a lot in food issues, allergies and the like as well. (its all connected, we are one body)

 

it's that there very well may be some really info that needs to researched and understood, some real dangers or at least huge unknowns that need to be acknowledged and admitted too, studied in a honest peer review, double blind sort of way and told honestly to the folks that need this info, the end user as well as the policy makers.

 

but when folks go too far, when they cloud a legitimate issue with an outlandish claim it hurts everyone's chances of finding out the truth. Too often on both sides of the issue, scientific pursuit gets run over by the pursuit of glory, fame and nearly always riches. Folks in the middle get turned off, rightfully so, by the crazy fringe and assume those folks have a point as invalid as their approach. In the case of this guy, I doubt I'm missing much, but others may in fact have good points being lost in all the shouting.

 

I'm one of those folks that feels that there is just too much info we dont know about vaccines for instance, but I'm a fan of pure untainted science and i find too little of it to really help me. I look and I read and do my best to read between the lines, see who is funding studies and who ordered them, when. But then we find reports being faked and studies having their statistics twisted beyond usefulness and we are left with less and less to make our hopefully informed choices with.

 

So right now I have decided to do a slow and steady schedule of vaxing my toddlers and some days I'm pretty mad that this is the best I can come up with, that I'm not given a full deck to play this hand with, that I feel that i'm stuck picking from the what I hope is the lessor of two evils. This is not the way medicine and health are supposed to happen, we are smarter than this. some day we are going to realize that we are smart enough to say that there are huge things we don't know and maybe even can't know, and then hopefully we will be brave enough to slow down and be as worried about that as we are about the things we claim to know.

 Totally agree with you here. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH GOOD UNBIASED SOLID INFORMATION to base this desicion on. This is why I choose not to vaccinate my children at all. The fact that you feel the same and choose to vaccinate your children illustrates my point I tried to make in another thread that dedicated, intelligent mamas can sift through gobs of information on both sides of a very controversial issues and come to make different choices and BOTH choices are valid and well researched.

post #32 of 79
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Originally Posted by Marnica View Post intelligent mamas can sift through gobs of information on both sides of a very controversial issues and come to make different choices and BOTH choices are valid and well researched.

 

thank you so much for being able to see this, if more of us spoke like this i really think the level of learning and understanding would be amazing. really, your words were powerful for me this morning.

post #33 of 79

Hmm. 


That video sets off some alarm bells.

 

How do we know that the man in the video is actually Andrew Mouldon? I've never met the man, nor have I seen pictures of him.  The video isn't proof of anything except that the videographer is mildly creative, uses music to good effect, and is a lousy video editor.

 

It's not a source of valid information.  Anyone can make a video of Someone Behaving Oddly, and claim that the Someone is whoever they like.

 

Why should we trust someone's claims of having seen Andrew Mouldon's FaceBook page as reliable, factual information that this man was arrested, lost his medical license, whas hospitalized, and thinks he is the reincarnation of whoever?

 

Shouldn't there be a valid record of arrest, record of medical license lost, etc.?

 

Seems to me that it's awfully easy to smear someone these days...


Edited by Taximom5 - 8/23/12 at 12:30pm
post #34 of 79
Taximom, please remove your comment casting suspicion on other members as it is against the UA and forum guidelines.
post #35 of 79

the facebook connection is easy to search and look at yourself, the video does appear to be posted by him. and the video is not just stuff someone could have put together, since it does seem to show him knowingly talking to the camera that he does appear to be holding himself.

yes this could all be a hoax or someone hacking his accounts, but i'm more likely going to go with the more straight forward interpretation that this is a man that really deeply needs some mental health help.

 

while i'm always leery of folks that register for the first time to post in controversial topics, best to hear what they have to say and see if you can double check their posts rather than just discounting them, with they agree or disagree with you.

post #36 of 79
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Originally Posted by emma1325 View Post

What do you know about him?

 

I'm friends with him on facebook, and he seems to put a lot of things out that are...really "out there..."

 

Maybe I just don't get him or understand what he's getting at exactly?

Emma, can you confirm that this is the same stuff as you were referring to as being on his facebook page?  just to rule out that there are two different pages floating around. would you like to link to the page you know him to have?

post #37 of 79
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Originally Posted by Taximom5 View Post

Seems to me that it's awfully easy to smear someone these days...

 

Yes especially when a person is a medical professional who believes "vaccination" is evil.

 

Here is Doctor Moulden in his own words.

 

http://vactruth.com/2009/07/21/dr-andrew-moulden-interview-what-you-were-never-told-about-vaccines/#comment-7579

 

As far as I know Doctor Moulden has not had his medical credentials politically removed YET. At this stage of his exposure of the "vaccination" deadly fraud I would not be at all surprised if this good man had a fatal "accident".

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32D_nIGtSnw

 

Do you want me to turn my back on society? "Doctor Moulden you either have to play ball or you lose the ball or they take you out and you will never become a licensed physician in Canada."

 

"The system is lost and we need to find it."  Doctor Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

 

“ALL vaccines are causing immediate and delayed, acute and chronic, waxing and waning, impairments to blood flow, throughout the brain and body. This IS causing us all to become chronically ill, sick, and causing brain damages along a continuum of clinically silent to death. This is causing ischemic “strokes”. In some respects, this is also “aging.” Since the damages are microscopic, we cannot see them as they occur. However, we can now see the neurological aftermath of these damages – within hours and days of vaccination – all vaccinations.”    Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

post #38 of 79
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Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ View Post

 

i'm more likely going to go with the more straight forward interpretation that this is a man that really deeply needs some mental health help.

 

Yes this seems to be a new political-medical paradigm these days; forced mental help and detention for those who disagree with us.

 

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/08/21/petition-president-free-marine-vet-brandon-raub-172811/

post #39 of 79
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Originally Posted by MamaHelpUs View Post

The video I posted was a video of Dr. Moulden himself filmed by Dr. Moulden himself. 

Anyone can make a video and say that it was Dr. Moulden himself in the video, and sign up for a FaceBook account under the name of Dr. Moulden himself, and post on various forums claiming that Dr. Moulden is insane, and post links to the video/FB site as proof.

 

That doesn't mean that it's actually Dr. Moulden himself in the video, nor on FaceBook.

 

There have been comments on pro-vax forums like LBRB exhorting pro-vaxxers to take to the internet forums and pretend to be lunatic anti-vaxxers, in order to scare people away from the "anti-vax" crowd. They even included advice on how to create an untraceable email account. Links to those comments have been posted here before, so we all know that it does happen.


Edited by Taximom5 - 8/23/12 at 12:29pm
post #40 of 79

MamaHelpUs, if you don't feel like engaging in a reasonable discussion, please don't make fun of other forum members. I don't think this is the place for junior-high-school-level nastiness.

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