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post #21 of 33

Here's my take on it. Anxiety is tricky. You have to be able to read your child objectively—hard for a parent to do, but you know your particular child better than the teachers do even if they've had years of experience. With anxiety, you have to nudge the child just outside of his comfort zone, but not so far that he will be unsuccessful and freak-out/melt down or at least not unrecoverably freak out.  However allowing him to completely avoid the anxiety-provoking situation is just as bad. They both will exacerbate the anxiety and make it build and be much worse. Avoidance sends the child the message, "Whew, good thing you avoided that scary situation. That was a close call. You should never do that again." He can begin to build up a fear of the situation and come to completely dread it. Dd1 used to do this with brushing her teeth as a preschooler/toddler among many, many other things.

 

As a parent you need to be able to read your child and know or make an educated guess about when to give him that extra nudge and how hard to nudge. Often you need to find a middle ground. For example, your child really wants to be able to swim, but is deathly afraid of getting in the pool. You do it in baby steps. First you have him sit on the edge and just dangle his toes in the water and watch. Then when he's comfortable with that you gently but firmly nudge him along. Maybe he sits on the first step of the pool, then the next, and the next until he's all the way in. Then you have to work up to putting his head under and learning strokes to swim. You can't just throw him in the deep end and expect him to deal and you can't let him hang out way over by the ping pong table and never even put his toes in. The hard thing about school sep anxiety is often the school is not super flexible and it's harder to find the middle ground. 

 

Many kids do exactly as Peony and Alenushka describe and cry for 5 minutes or less and then are over it. However, some are like my dd1 and cry for hours if you do a drop and run and are still snuffling when you come to pick them up. My dd2 had some sep anxiety. It was more than most other kids in her pre-K and K classes, but did not begin to touch the degree of sep anxiety that dd1 had. I don't think any of dd1's teachers (some of whom had taught for 20+ years) had ever seen sep anxiety like she had. 

 

For dd1 what I did was set up some playdates for sure. She loved going to other kids' houses. And then for the school routine we tried a number of things. Sometimes Daddy would drop her and sometimes Dd2 and I would. When Daddy did he hung out for a pretty decent amount of time (maybe 20 minutes) and then dd1 drew him a picture at the end. He said she was so sad and teary (though not out and out bawling) when he left it just broke his heart. We had already tried the drop and run after we got the advice that she'd be over it in 5 minutes if we'd only do that. She was not that kid.  (Still isn't. I mean, she certainly doesn't need me to walk her into class any more (she's in 6th grade), but if she's really upset she just can't be done and over it in 5 minutes.) What ended up working for me and dd1 was for me to stay around through the free period in the morning, fading into the background and letting dd1 integrate herself into the activities, until they got ready for circle time and I would stay through circle time and after that I would leave. This ended up being nearly an hour or so. As she became comfortable with that I began to excuse myself during the free period and say I was going to take dd2 (she was 2.5 at the time) outside, but I wouldn't leave yet and I would come back in before circle. (Super important not to sneak away, again makes the anxiety worse.) Sometimes I would tell her I needed to talk to another teacher or administrator. Basically I was stretching out the time that she was on her own in the morning, but leaving her a security blanket with the knowledge that I hadn't really gone yet. As she began to make friends and enjoy the activities it became less and less necessary for me to be in the room. I would often be outside or elsewhere. I also began to leave at the beginning of circle time rather than the end once she became comfortable with the routine.

 

Her separation anxiety continued for several years. Kindy and preschool were definitely the worst, but she liked the long goodbye in one form or another for a long, long time. Later on when dd2 was big enough to attend the same school I would drop dd1 off and then take dd2 into her class and settle her in and then come back a second time to say a real goodbye to dd1 and then say goodbye to dd2 and go. I was advised by several people to just say goodbye to dd1 and not come back a second time, but they didn't know her. They thought it would make it worse, but she was happy as a clam when she knew I was coming back for just a real quick hug and kiss. It was what worked for her. 

 

Dd2 was different. She definitely did have sep anxiety, but not as bad as dd1. What worked for her was the whole getting settled in and then I went to say my goodbye to dd1 and then came back to dd2 to say a second time to say goodbye to her at the "goodbye window" the school had for K. You could open the window and get a hug, but didn't go back in the classroom. That window made dd2 sad for quite awhile until we realized that she really liked it when she went right into her 1 minute "reading meeting" and 1 on 1 attention from her teacher immediately after we said goodbye at the goodbye window. She loved just that smidgeon of structure and then she was really okay with the rest of the day. No more big wails and sobs. So for her the middle ground was nowhere near as elaborate with as many baby steps as we had to make for dd1. 

 

You know your child best. You've got to nudge him a little and find that middle ground. Getting to know the other kids through playdates is super helpful and is probably the easiest thing to control that you can do to help him adjust. See how open the school and teacher are to you hanging around a little. Maybe you could volunteer. I think it would be best if you didn't engage with him much, but were more the security blanket/nightlight in the background. Maybe you could cut out materials for class or something like that. Or maybe he's one of the kids that really does do better with the "yank the bandaid" method and will only cry for a few minutes after you leave.

 

Best of luck!

post #22 of 33

I agree that anxiety is tricky.  I also have a kid with an anxiety disorder for whom going to school has been, at times, traumatic.

 

I agree with much of the advice in the thread here, except for volunteering. I think volunteering is great, but showing up and leaving in the middle of the day won't be helpful to your son right now. It will just add to the confusion.

 

I also think that parents, esp. us moms, can cycle with our kids. They get freaked out, and it upsets us because we love them and want them to be happy. They pick up on our upset, and for them, this is more cause for being freaked out. So they get more freaked out. So we get more upset, and so on and so on. They cannot be the one to break the cycle. It's up to us.

 

I would continue to enlist the help of the staff at the school. Because your son has special needs, he needs accommodations for getting into his classroom each day. What you are doing isn't working, so it's time to do something different. For awhile, the school social worker came out to our car and walked my DD into the building. For a while, I walked my Dd into the building and left her in the office, where the social worker met her. Talk to the school and brain storm with your key people there for a new plan. He needs more help with this transition.

 

In your OP, you mention that he had sensory issues, but has outgrown them. I suspect that isn't the case. I suspect that some of the things that used to bother him he is doing OK, but that school is pushing all his sensory buttons. It is a very tough sensory environment. If you have a sensory diet for him, I would go back to working on it with him after school.

 

I would also talk to the school about his sensory issues -- it's possible that part of what could help him in school is time right at the beginning of the day in a sensory activity. My DD was mostly mainstreamed, but spent the first period of the day in special education and there were all kinds of cool sensory activities in there.

 

And I totally agree with the poster up thread who said, "sometimes what feels kind is not compassionate."  I also have a child who would have chose to never leave her room. We've had some very tough times. She is now happily attending highschool in a small private school (which was a better fit for her) and volunteers at the library. She is getting ready for college. But yeah, I had to kick her out of the nest.

post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post

I agree with much of the advice in the thread here, except for volunteering. I think volunteering is great, but showing up and leaving in the middle of the day won't be helpful to your son right now. It will just add to the confusion.

 

No, I wouldn't suggest volunteering in the middle of the day. I was more envisioning volunteering in the morning at drop off as an excuse to stay longer and ease his transition if the school felt they needed that excuse. I could have done that with my dd1 as long as I didn't need to interact with her or the other kids (if I was just in the background cutting out shapes, or stapling or something). I could not volunteer later in the day and then leave again. Recipe for disaster. But at either end of the day it would have been fine for my dd. 

post #24 of 33
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He is on his third full day. I met with the CSE this morning. They are just going to observe and send home assessments for me to fill out, we'll meet again next month..So they are implementing the speech and OT ASAP (the primary reason we started kindergarten). He is soldiering through, but he is so scared. I am so conflicted. Every morning he asks "please mommy don't leave me there" but he is starting to engage in play (baby steps, just barely) no one knows what to expect, what are some opinions on half day accommodations?  Why stay full day, with a resistant anxious child?

post #25 of 33

Half day might work as long as you take care to paint it not as backing down or backing out — basically not as avoidance. With anxiety, avoidance only makes it worse, but going half day is really not avoiding so I think you could make that work. Do you plan to have him repeat K next year? I know you said he's young for it this year and you're only there for the speech and OT so maybe this year could be the half-day year and next year could be the full day year. Do you know if the school would be willing to let him do half days? I think it could be a good compromise. You're not letting him completely avoid the situation, but you're making it easier for him to deal with it.

post #26 of 33
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Originally Posted by tri31 View Post

 Every morning he asks "please mommy don't leave me there" but he is starting to engage in play (baby steps, just barely) no one knows what to expect, what are some opinions on half day accommodations?  Why stay full day, with a resistant anxious child?

 

hug2.gif  My DD with an anxiety disorder had a reduced school day as part of her 504 accommodations when she was in public school. It did help, but there were downsides.

 

First, it sets the child apart. The other kids know. They ask why. Those answers aren't easy.

 

Second, not being there all day means missing stuff that happens. My DD was in middle school at the time, so it was different than what a K would miss, but check into that see what he would be missing. Recess? Art? What exactly are you asking that he not do for the entire rest of the year.

 

The third downside is a combination of 1 and 2, by missing things that the other kids do and talk it about, it makes connecting with the other children more difficult. It adds to the social complications, which can create more anxiety.

 

Last, how much of the time that he is there would he be in pullouts? Would they be able to schedule all his therapies during the part day? How much time would he be in class? Would it be enough time to make his peace with being there?

 

None the less, one year is was the best we could come up with. It was part of her official accommodations, not something that was available for students who do not have special needs. It was a PITA for the staff because there are so many regulations about what students HAVE to have as part of their day, that scheduling was wonky. Depending on exactly how the laws are written in your state and how funding works, this is a bigger request than it seems like it would be on the surface.

 

Now my DD attends a small private school and can do the whole school day, which was something important that the administration of the school, and that my DH and I together with the school to make happen.  Part of what helped was having real opt outs of what is happening. For her, having a safe place to go when she is overwhelmed was very necessary to making her peace with being in school.  What is your little guy supposed to do if he starts getting freaked out? What's the plan? For my DD, waiting until she could just stay at school all day without getting freaked out wasn't realistic.

 

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Do you plan to have him repeat K next year? I know you said he's young for it this year and you're only there for the speech and OT so maybe this year could be the half-day year and next year could be the full day year. Do you know if the school would be willing to let him do half days? I think it could be a good compromise. You're not letting him completely avoid the situation, but you're making it easier for him to deal with it.

 

 

good points. Depending how he is doing by the end of the year, a second year of K might be a really good idea. It might take the pressure off this year to think of it as the dry run, something to just start getting the hang of rather than something he must master right now.

post #27 of 33

I think Linda makes good points, too. I would have loved to have my dd1 in a half day kindy program, but I couldn't find one in our area, so we went with the small private school which still was full day K. I think pulling her out early would definitely have set her apart from the other kids, though, if she only went half days. 

 

I wonder if you could pick him up early on certain days, like Mondays and Tuesdays or some other combination, so he would be able to ease into the week, but would still have the chance to connect with the other kids. 

post #28 of 33
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post

 

hug2.gif  My DD with an anxiety disorder had a reduced school day as part of her 504 accommodations when she was in public school. It did help, but there were downsides.

 

First, it sets the child apart. The other kids know. They ask why. Those answers aren't easy.

 

Second, not being there all day means missing stuff that happens. My DD was in middle school at the time, so it was different than what a K would miss, but check into that see what he would be missing. Recess? Art? What exactly are you asking that he not do for the entire rest of the year.

 

The third downside is a combination of 1 and 2, by missing things that the other kids do and talk it about, it makes connecting with the other children more difficult. It adds to the social complications, which can create more anxiety.

 

Last, how much of the time that he is there would he be in pullouts? Would they be able to schedule all his therapies during the part day? How much time would he be in class? Would it be enough time to make his peace with being there?

 

So a 504 was implemented for therapies, but everyone agreed not to put together a solid CPE plan untill more observations are made (all his evaluations are almost two years old). Therapies are going to start in class, OT, speech and counseling and we all agree that if he needs more than we'll consider pull out sessions, and if he needs less we'll phase them out eventually. That said he had an amazing day yesterday! Everyday he relaxing more into it. We are really encouraged. We'll see what monday's like..By the way your point about the loss of connection with the class is excellent, and as long as he continues to adjust day by day, I think we've decided to stay the course with full days.

post #29 of 33

Sounds like you are all making progress!!
 

post #30 of 33

How are things this week?

post #31 of 33
Thread Starter 

It's so hard to know what to think. My child is very effectively telling me he doesn't want to go. But he is blossoming at school. He had a really good day yesterday. I was surprised because he tried to keep the aid away by holding down the lock button(she comes and brings him from the car). So he resists hard, and got spoken to for saying that being line leader (a privledge) "is dumb". He is so conflicted, and I feel like all I can do is watch. He in OT and doesn't even realize he is in speech again (yet?). Any advice or suggestions are welcome. I think he likes school, but he is afraid to be out in the world. He says I need to wait for him out in the car until the "go home" bell rings :)

post #32 of 33
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UPDATE: I was fine, until I went to curriculum night. And after being enlightened to the reality that they expect that my son will be reading, writing and doing math (skills that I needed kindergarten 1st and 2nd grade to master) by the end of the year. When I talk to the staff I am assured that kids come in at all levels. But the reality in the classroom is that ds is the only child in the room that has not been in daycare or pre-k. They all write and draw and are ready for the next step. My child knows he is different thatn the other kids. "His paper doesn't have numbers". My question to you all is, am I undermining his acedemic success. He doesn't even want to be there. Let alone learn to write his name. He isn't emotionally ready. For the first time in his life I am not following his que's. I feel like I have made a terrible mistake.

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post #33 of 33

It's hard!

 

My sense is that they will work with him at his level and expect him to make progress, but not necessarily achieve all those things at the same level as others. It sounds like he needs more time to settle in and get the hang of the social/emotional piece. At the same time, sometimes our kids surprise us. When we hang in there with them they often accomplish more than we think they can or are able to.

 

Hang in there!
 

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