Thank you guys so much for responding! Your right, I have tried most of things listed and more. I am taking cod liver, the dosage is 1/2 tsp. daily, I've been taking a whole tsp., but I think I'll increase it. The vitamin B does help a little, at least I feel like I can open my eyes when I take enough. I have a great diet (okay, sometimes I eat white flour or something!), but I'm a nutritionist, so know what to eat, it's just having the strength to do it. I know all the right things to take, good food, supplements, herbs, Bach Flowers, EFA's, the standards, but I was asking about a time frame to maybe come to terms with the fact that natural may not be for me right now. I've had a thought of pumping like a mad woman for the next month or so then weaning my dd onto breastmilk bottles. She's only 7 1/2 mos. But again, that takes strength. I've had some depression before, but this beast is unlike anything I've ever encountered. The problem now is that I don't have the strength physically, emotionally, psychologically to do much of anything, I can barely take care of my babies and then I have nothing left for myself. It takes a lot of energy to treat depression holistically and energy is not what I'm rich in right now. I am also going to therapy and I have found a great therapist after dealing with a couple of dumba$$es, but she feels that we can't really get to do much therapy because I'm in a constant state of "crisis." My "homework" this week was to reconsider going on anti-depressants, my dh recommended a compromise, like I'll wean dd by a certain date, and I added maybe the pumping like a madwoman bit. I agreed to see a psychiatrist under the urging of my therapist just in case I decide to go for the meds. She wanted me to already have had my evaluation so I wouldn't have to wait forever to see the psychiatrist should I change my mind about meds. They are both really accepting of my fears about taking the drugs while nursing and I was glad that neither one made me feel invalidated or something. I'm going to go out and speed walk in the park with the children today, but it's been very hard for me to exercise. This is coming from a woman who was working out, even lifting weights, right up until dd was born. Right up until all of my dc's were born. I have always loved to work out, but I'm just too...well, I don't know, I'm too whatever to do it. You don't know how good this feels to get this all out. I've only told like three people what I'm going through, not even my family. Though my sister cruises this board so she may come across this. I'm hoping she won't visit this particular forum, but I neede to hear from some people who've been there to give me a realistic viewpoint, not just some words in a book, kwim? Well, now my novel is finished...thanks for listening and thank you ever so much for your input.