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Mini rant

post #1 of 9
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My husband is a smoker. Usually the pattern is bumming cigarettes from friends, buying his own, to quitting and going through a bad mood, then nothing until he is around smokers again and starts bumming. I try not to hound him, but congratulate him when he's doing well, and the smoking is usually not an issue. Even when he's buying his own, he's smoking much less than he used to, and he doesn't want to be smoking when the baby arrives.

 

The problem is the emotional struggles whenever he quits. Last week a coworker talked him into breaking the rest of the cigs in the pack and throwing them out. Which is great! but he's been extra grumpy because of it. 

 

Sunday, we went to a newborn class at the hospital, which started early (earlier than I make it into work!) and was 5 hours long.

 

Now, I was a HUGE coffee drinker before pregnancy. Gave it up cold turkey when we got the positive, then my doc said she's a believer of moderation. I still was too nauseous to consider it first trimester but got back into the habit in second. Did my research, and found reliable sources that stated below 200-300 mg a day was all right. I started off not drinking it every day, but lately, it probably is every day. Almost always well below 200 mg, with the exception of maybe 2 days a month (but still under 300).

 

Because it was early and a long class, I got a medium iced coffee, self serve, so I filled up the whole thing with ice then poured the already cold coffee over it. I know from looking up values previously, the same thing at Dunkin Donuts would be within my acceptable range, but as it was a different shop (Au Bon Pain) I knew it could be a little different. I knew it was a splurge, and planned on not having any other caffeine, even iced tea, the rest of the day.

 

After the class, initially my husband was in a great mood. By the time we got to lunch at the diner, he was upset. He said he was really upset seeing me drink the "huge" coffee. And of course I had said something about the baby being active during the class, which he feels was a result of the coffee. He knew he was being more emotional than he should about it, and he actually did more research right there on his phone as he held back tears (he is not one to cry often!!)  He also felt bad for telling me how he felt.

 

I apologized, waited, when he was a little clearer headed I explained how I estimated the caffeine and didn't plan on more that day, etc. That the baby does those same antics in the evening when I haven't had any caffeine in 12 hours. I said I don't have it every day, when lately it usually has been, but I didn't have any today out of guilt.  He knew this, but was really freaked out by it, and just needed time to get over it.

 

Today, he's telling me not to microwave food in plastic containers. (I don't often, but there are times I do)

 

I can imagine as hard as navigating the do's and don't's is for me, it's even harder for him when he's not the one in direct control of the choices. But I am frustrated that instead of explaining why and trying to get me to see his point of view that he's just asking me - though at least he did say please.

 

The thing is my gut reaction is to rebel when someone tries to tell me what to do. And I am very aware of trying to not tell him what to do or not to do (ie smoking, or when he complains about gaining weight but makes routinely bad choices, like crazy amounts of soda, or having bacon on a roll every single morning along with several other things, but he just doesn't get that bacon is not the best "everyday" choice).

 

So it's frustrating. :(  I think he's a little freaked out about being a first time dad, the baby being healthy, and I don't want him to blame me for anything going wrong. But I'm worried about watching my every single step around him now. I just hope he keeps up with the quitting smoking (I say this each time) because this is always the worst part :(

post #2 of 9

Oy, tough.  :(  I think personally we can drive ourselves crazy with the dos and don'ts of pregnancy.  While I"m not advocating sucking back multiple coffees a day (nor wine or sushi - although I've had a little bit of both this pregnancy, yum!), I do think that we take it to a whole new level when we're pregnant.  The unknown can be scary.  And the guilt we can carry can be high, especially if we feel we're not doing everything 100%.  

 

But to have your DH quitting smoking & then lecturing/giving advice on how you can do better....that would be hard to swallow.  Is there any way you can have a non-confrontational sit down and discuss how you feel about it too?  Make your points that you are doing the best for your baby and making decisions as best you can based on the info you have - but that him giving his advice on top of everything can feel overwhelming.  Point out that you love how involved and worried he is about the baby, but that maybe you can both come to an agreement on how to make decisions with regards to baby's health.  

 

Hope this helps?  Hugs in the meantime though!!  

post #3 of 9
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What was difficult was that it wasn't a rational conversation. It was a purely emotional reaction he had. I can understand if I drank that much daily, but on average I have 8 oz at work (90-110 mg), the day prior I had 74 mg (a canned espresso drink that is labelled with the caffeine content) and occasional iced teas. There really was no need to discuss it further after he researched it again on his own, I stated that I knew that was a "splurge" day and wasn't even having any iced tea the rest of the day, and I said that I don't drink every single day. Which, the past two-three weeks I had, but I'm switching back as of yesterday to taking days off. I'm not trying to be dismissive of your suggestions, I appreciate them! But he doesn't have issue with this, he didn't before and he doesn't now, so I don't know what we would discuss about it at this point.

 

I understand why he said not to microwave plastic, but then last night he's saying he wants to throw out ALL our canned goods over a certain age because there's plastic lining in them that can leach into the food. But I don't know how to even know how old some of them are. He is doing more research, I'm pretty much leaving it up to him and just staying out of it (except for what I know was most recently purchased and I plan on using this week). (we are moving anyway, and there's some cans that probably should be tossed because they just may not ever be used lol.)

 

I don't know. I think this is just a combo phase of nicotine withdrawal and conspiracy theories. I'm going to roll with it but bring it up when he has to see what the practical side of things can be - ie, tonight I have something for dinner that is meant to be microwaved in the plastic container it came in. So I'm going to ask him what he proposes we do with it - even if I put it in a regular bowl, there should be a cover over it, which would be plastic wrap :P

 

We have a "green" baby workshop at the hospital later in October - hoping little one doesn't arrive early and we can make it to it, should help clear up what is important to avoid and what's just hype... I hope! 

post #4 of 9

Well, then, just hugs.  I don't know if I have any suggestions...nicotine withdrawl is hard, but it doesn't give someone permission to make your life more difficult.  :) Sorry you're having such a tough time!  Let's hope the withdrawl goes quickly!!

post #5 of 9

My guy is trying to quit smoking too.  It makes him irritable, so I feel for you.  His irritability seems to focus more on household tidiness and people's behavior.  Luckily, he doesn't know a whole lot about food and environmental issues like your guy.  Sometimes I think all we can do is lie low until they either get through that phase of quitting or until they take up the smoking again.

post #6 of 9

dangit - just wrote out this long reply and hit the wrong combination of keys. gone.

short version:

I've witnessed these sudden bouts of anxciousness (sp?) and need to control in my DH before our first son was born. It's a tough time for the guys too, because they just don'T have that constant connectedness with the baby and they don'T have the same access as us women to the natural way of getting used to the idea of a new person entering their lives and of following your instincts. It sucks and it feels really unfair (DH once aggressively questioned my ability to cope with the labor pains that were ahead of me) but it is almost as if they sometimes forget (after all, they don'T carry their constant reminder around with them all the time) and then when they remember they probably feel a mixture of guilt and panic and the need to DO something, but they really can't do much, so they try to find stuff, you know? like throwing out canned food, getting anxcious about your coffee intake etc...

on another note: my mw just pretty much prescribed coffee to me. I also quit altogether in the first trimester due to nausea and then took it up again in a moderate amount (usually one large latte in the mornings and sometimes a small one after lunch). Now I am officially ordered to have those, because my blood pressure is so low. So there you go - it all depends ;) 

post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by franjapany View Post

dangit - just wrote out this long reply and hit the wrong combination of keys. gone.
short version:
I've witnessed these sudden bouts of anxciousness (sp?) and need to control in my DH before our first son was born. It's a tough time for the guys too, because they just don'T have that constant connectedness with the baby and they don'T have the same access as us women to the natural way of getting used to the idea of a new person entering their lives and of following your instincts. It sucks and it feels really unfair (DH once aggressively questioned my ability to cope with the labor pains that were ahead of me) but it is almost as if they sometimes forget (after all, they don'T carry their constant reminder around with them all the time) and then when they remember they probably feel a mixture of guilt and panic and the need to DO something, but they really can't do much, so they try to find stuff, you know? like throwing out canned food, getting anxcious about your coffee intake etc...
on another note: my mw just pretty much prescribed coffee to me. I also quit altogether in the first trimester due to nausea and then took it up again in a moderate amount (usually one large latte in the mornings and sometimes a small one after lunch). Now I am officially ordered to have those, because my blood pressure is so low. So there you go - it all depends wink1.gif 

Good advice! Guys need to feel helpful too. (warning: gross generalization ahead) They just need to be told directly what to do more than women do.

I'd say think of some things that he CAN do to help you, and make it clear (kindly) what doesn't help. Tell him that you'll take care of what goes in your body and he can focus on what to bring to the hospital, research birth support and natural pai relief methods, massage techniques for you in labor and for the baby after its born, or something like that. It's a terrible feeling that you have no control over one of the biggest events in your life. If you can give him some control, he can feel better and he can actually help you too.

Also, I quit smoking about 8 years ago, and I highly recommend nicotine replacement for quitting. I don't know if your guys would be willing to take advice on quitting, but I would never have been able to do it alone. I used the nicotrol inhaler and it worked SO WELL for me. People are usually pretty skeptical of it, but it worked amazingly well for me. I had tried to quit 4 times before that,
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks all!

 

He's still doing well with the quitting, he had a puff of his e-cig last night for a nic fit (he doesn't care for it that much except it helps him from breaking down and smoking a real cig!) but otherwise ok.

 

I understand that he's freaking out a bit, and he acknowledges that he's overreacting a little, but he's also been better at explaining why. I look forward to our green baby class for better answers than taking everything to the extreme :P

 

We met with a doula last night, and I'm a little concerned I can't live up to his expectations of being able to get "mind over matter" on the pain issue. She mentioned orgasmic births, which, I think is entirely possible for a very tiny percentage of the population, but quite a stretch for the rest of us :P He doesn't seem to think it's that crazy. This should be fun lol...

post #9 of 9

Just wanted to point out that after educating himself or going to our birth classes with DS's pregnancy, DH seemed a lot more concerned about baby and my health. It was a bit annoying to hear him chiming in on what he thought I should and should not be doing with my body when I'd been growing a baby for MONTHS. But if he learned something new, he'd suggest it to me. Even if I'd already avoided or tried the thing he pointed out a long time ago! Perhaps your DH is just worried due to things he learned in your class? Anyway, sure hope he calms down and accepts that YOU are already doing the best you can to grow a healthy babe!

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