I'd appreciate any articles or personal insight.
- topicHomeschoolingtagged by System, 8/29/12
Related Forum Threads
- Hands On Math Curriculum for K-1 in a Co-op setting Last post on Yesterday at 4:22 pm in Learning at Home and Beyond
- possible micro school for 2e kiddos forming in nj Last post on Yesterday at 7:08 am in Learning at Home and Beyond
- time4learning, experiences with it? Last post on Yesterday at 6:20 am in Learning at Home and Beyond
- Minecraft homeschool Last post on Yesterday at 7:35 pm in Learning at Home and Beyond
- (Where) is the(re) line for in/appropriate artwork for children? Last post on 3/5/14 at 8:35am in Learning at Home and Beyond
Homeschooling while Working from Home
Last edited: 2/18/14
- Day in the Life of a Homeschooler, Part 3Last edited: 2/18/14
- Homeschool Planner ReviewsLast edited: 2/18/14
- A Day in the Life of a Homeschooler, part 2Last edited: 2/18/14
- Interview with PJ Jonas of Goat Milk StuffLast edited: 2/18/14
teaching to paraphrase, not plagiarizepost #1 of 108/29/12 at 11:33amThread Starterpost #2 of 108/29/12 at 1:27pm
I don't see this as a discrete learning task, but as a process that begins early and is ongoing. For us it begins with things like retelling family stories, recounting our days from different perspectives around the dinner table, explaining what's interesting about a book we're reading, giving an overview of a magazine article that might interest someone, etc. etc.. It turns into writing when the kids correspond with friends and family, make blog entries, keep journals. It is refined when they are inspired to put together projects, Prezis or Powerpoints. Interestingly my kids have never been tempted to plagiarize complete sentences. Perhaps that's because they weren't pushed to do research projects before they were motivated and ready to equipped with the literacy skills necessary to craft their own text to their own satisfaction. They were widely enough read before being put in a position of creating their own reports to understand the conventional use and attribution of quoted text.
The short answer... I begin building in my kids the skills they'll need to put things in their own words from toddlerhood. I don't ask them to write research reports until adolescence. They've had copious natural experience with all the building block skills by then, and have developed the critical thinking skills and experience necessary to recognize good writing. It flows quite naturally and easily out of that.
Mirandapost #3 of 108/29/12 at 2:12pmThread Starterpost #4 of 108/29/12 at 2:19pmThread Starter
moominmama wrote " For us it begins with things like retelling family stories, recounting our days from different perspectives around the dinner table, explaining what's interesting about a book we're reading, giving an overview of a magazine article that might interest someone, etc. etc.."
We do all of those things too.
The curriculum asks that they write "reports" about specific items from their readings and that they do some research to supplement. When they are reporting on facts, they have a hard time summarizing and/or rephrasing the facts. Reports seem like standard work in this particular curriculum (new to us), so I assume that this curriculum has involved reports, or narrative written review, much more than public school ever did.
They can write their own impressions and interpretations in an analytical or responsive paper, but they don't seem to understand how to present facts in a report easily without copying the source. Perhaps it does come more with age, as the 7th grader has an easier time with it than the 5th grader.
What age is adolescence? We are well beyond toddlerhood, so I'm looking for concrete strategies to implement now.post #5 of 108/29/12 at 4:09pm
Adolescence is between puberty and adulthood.
But it sounds like it doesn't matter what age worked for my kids, because you are constrained by a curriculum that expects them to be able to do it now, at whatever ages they happen to be. It sounds like they need an intermediate step between reading the original text and writing something, a step that allows them to re-organize and rephrase.
Do they know how do point-form notes? Not full sentences, just key words and points? If so you could suggest they do that while researching, and then use the notes to make their own sentences, without the original source in front of them.
So if they're doing a report on bats and read this:
"Bats are mammals of the order Chiroptera whose forelimbs form webbed wings, making them the only mammals naturally capable of true and sustained flight."
... their point-form notes might look like this:
- order Chiroptera
- forelimbs - webbed wings
- only mammals - sustained flight
And then, without looking at the original source, they use those point-form notes to create the following:
"Bats are mammals that are from the order Chiroptera. Their forelimbs are actually webbed wings. They are the only mammals that can do sustained flying."
If they don't like the idea of doing point-form notes, or aren't able to master it, try story-webbing, otherwise known as mind-mapping. You draw the main idea in a circle on the centre of a blank page. "Bats," circled. Then you connect other word-ideas to that balloon using lines, to make a web of ideas. One line might go to "mammals" and from there two lines might branch out to "only flying mammal" and "Order: Chiroptera." Another line might lead from "Bats" to the word "habitat" or "diet" or "life-cycle", with related ideas attached to those. Then they would use this web to generate their own sentences. There's an example near the bottom of this page.
Mirandapost #6 of 108/29/12 at 4:37pm
By the time they need to write reports, a big part of the writing lessons should be what is proper in citing and avoiding plagiarism, in whatever way is age appropriate. They should know if they use someone else's words how to put quotes around it and where it's from, and if they change the words to still put where it's from but no quote marks. No need to do strict MLA or anything at first, just the basic info included (title, author, and page, if it's on one source anyway then just the page number). I thought I was cheating and felt guilty paraphrasing and reorganizing things when I did this kind of summary assignment as a kid (10-15) but didn't know what else to do, didn't learn til my early entry college English class it was great but you have to cite.post #7 of 108/29/12 at 6:06pmThread Starter
Thanks so much for the tips!
I like the idea of point form notes and think that might be do-able, especially if I'm not pushing her, the 5th grader, to develop the notes into sentences right away.
I'd be happy if she could just take the notes and not push the actual reports so much.
My son, the 7th grader, showed me that sort of story webbing or mind mapping when I asked him if he'd done outlines. I didn't really understand what he was doing, so thanks for that info. The point form looks clearest to me, but I'll let him choose whichever format works best for him.
Jamie, I do need to emphasize that they list their sources. I've said it repeatedly but not enforced it rigorously yet.post #8 of 108/30/12 at 1:59ampost #9 of 108/30/12 at 8:52pm
we use IEW to teach writing & the program starts off with getting the student to comfortably paraphrase stories. it follows the method of using a keyword outline. basically you read the sentence and choose 3 words per sentence that will help you later summarize the story in your own words. there's more to IEW than that of course, but that gives you the gist of how it gets the student into summaries without copying.post #10 of 109/14/12 at 6:51amThread StarterUpdate: The kids are progressing. I did get some Spectrum brand grade level writing workbooks from Amazon, which are surprisingly effective. There are short easy-to-understand, well directed writing lessons that I assign to the kids, usually 2 pages per day. It has really helped them to understand simple concepts like the paragraph and staying on topic within a paragraph. I like how low-stress the workbooks are and how each exercise focuses on one small concept at a time. The Spectrum grade levels for writing seem about the same as what they had from their public school.
My daughter still has problems working with the assigned topic, but she loosens up so much when I give her the freedom to adapt the topic to her own interests. I'm not pushing the research and paraphrasing for her yet, even though it's part of the Oak Meadow 5th grade writing. It seems more important to let her get more comfortable with putting down her own thoughts.
- Day in the Life of a Homeschooler, Part 3
- › Did your p/g symptoms reduce with subsequent pregnancies? 1 minute ago
- › Bleeding. Now what? 4 minutes ago
- › The Saner TTC and Graduates -- Wolf Moon 7 minutes ago
- › JK Rowling, keep your regrets to yourself! 7 minutes ago
- › Chinese Study: 42 Percent of Drug Reactions Are Vaccine Related 10 minutes ago
- › pregnancy weight gain question 11 minutes ago
- › October Moms Pregnant After Loss Thread 15 minutes ago
- › Babies and TV: Do you let your baby watch? How big of a deal is... 16 minutes ago
- › Samuel Isaac's birth 18 minutes ago
- › 12 year old boy is weepy. Causes? 19 minutes ago
- › Vaccine: The Controversial Story of Medicine's Greatest Lifesaver by ss834
- › Pyur Diaper Balm by MimiPilla
- › Burt's Bees Mama Bee Belly Balm, Fragrance Free, by KatelynRose
- › Summer Infant Best View Handheld Color Video Monitor with 2.5"... by thebessmartinfo
- › Happy Heiny's One Size Cloth Diapers by SquirmyWorm
- › Homesteader's Kitchen, The: Recipes from Farm to Table by Monica S
- › Rainbow Light Just Once Prenatal One Multivitamin, 90 Tablets by glwilson22
- › Bear Stays Up for Christmas by rosemarievpaulson
- › The Night Before Christmas by rjdoghouse
- › The Polar Express by sassyfirechick
- › Okay to Leave Kids in the Car While Popping... by Melanie Mayo
- › Laundry Zen by Laura Grace Weldon
- › High Needs Mother by BrainChild
- › Homebirth Forum Guidelines by Cynthia Mosher
- › Disclaimer by Cynthia Mosher
- › Does Siri Thwart Social Intelligence? by Melanie Mayo
- › Homeschooling with YouTube by SavvyHomeschool
- › Closing the Door On Childbearing by Melanie Mayo
- › A Journey Through Childhood with Seuss by Melanie Mayo
- › Belly Binding for Prenatal Comfort and... by Kristen Tea