September 2012 Infertility One Thread - Page 3

[toothfairy2be]

Welcome Lindz- You're in the right place for venting & support. We've got a great group here but I'm sorry you've ended up down this road. Looking forward to getting to know you!

Stevi- sorry about the cancelled donors. Good thing O came early!

[Stevi]

toothfairy2be...   Yeah, ovulating early worked out okay as far as donors. lol I started using natural progesterone cream this morning. I have don't all I can really do for this cycle. All I have left is to wait, and try not to get too hopeful!

Welcome Lindz!

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[Lindz]

I'm thinking fertile thoughts.  It's hard today because AF started.  My obgyn found my thyroid disorder and I began meds in June.  I was sent to a fertility clinic that told me I had unexplained fertility.  I think my thyroid is a huge part of it.  But I don't know.  The hubs and I cleared every other test.  The RE wants to do iui (my insurance covers it so I am very thankful for that) but I haven't made that first appt to talk about it yet.  I'm not sure what's stopping me. I think I haven't fully accepted we might need more help.  I'm scared also about what would happen if it failed.  Anyone been through those thoughts?

[toothfairy2be]

Lindz- i think many of us have felt those thoughts. It is hard to 'put all your eggs in one basket' per se. There are a few on the grads side with successful first IUIs, the remainder of us are on multiple failed IUIs. I did 4, it was crushing. I've given up IUI, with endometriosis I just don't see how it would work for me any better than anything else (other than IVF). There is always hope it will work, it is just hard to see here because we're all still in it. Are they still monitoring your thyroid meds to be sure you are getting the right levels? Unexplained is so frustrating, I'm sorry they didn't have more answers for you.

[Lindz]

My doctor is monitoring my levels every month.  She's keeping a close eye on them because we are ttc.  I'm thankful for it.  I'm just hoping my body will heal and become healthy so we can get this show on the road!  Just having a hard weekend because I was sick to my stomach last week and thought maybe, just maybe....I need to just take the plunge.  At least that would give me a sense of control.  

[planegreen]

toothfairy - sorry the herbs are making things crazy.  Hopefully you can find what will work for you.  Also, I had never heard of prostaglandins so I had to look up what that was.  What I found definitely sounds like how I felt.  It started about 4 hours after my IUI and lasted about 48 hours. 

Sila - I sure hope my cramping was partly because of a correct deposit!  That sounds like good news to me! 

Lindz - Hi!  Welcome!  I'm pretty new around here too.  I'm on my third IUI (and oh so hopeful that this one will work!).  I think getting in to talk to a Dr. is a great place to start for you.  You can always talk first and make a decision later.  I hope your thyroid gets better/managed. 

Stevi - You and I sound right around the same timing - here's to thinking fertile thoughts! 

AFM I started Progesterone suppositories on Friday night. I take two a day.  So far, so good.  Yeah, it's a little weird to put that up there but it's better than taking the pills.  Those made me feel like I was drunk.  I did those the first two cycles of treatment and I hated it.  These seem to be working a lot better. Any of you who have done the suppositories, I guess that means no sex huh?  It's kinda messy and that doesn't seem like a good idea... 

[Stevi]

planegreen...   What kind of progesterone are you taking? And what is the dosage? Also, what was the name and dosage of the oral one you were taking? (I'm collecting info on prescription progesterone in case I want to try it.)

[deborahbgkelly]

Toothfairy- Haha. Eggs in one basket. Seems appropriate for this thread. 

[SKJ2011]

Hi ladies. I've missed a lot while I was gone. Hope I can catch up!

Milk - Spotting is so freaking upsetting and it's so hard to know if it is worrisome. It sounds like your doc is on top of things and hopefully the nausea is a good sign. Good luck with the scan tomorrow. I really, really hope this is your take home baby.

Planegreen - Yay for a good cycle! I really hope this is it for you!

Lindz - Welcome. Sorry you have found your way here.

Tooth - Ugh to the herbs! Glad you stopped them. Have you been back to acupuncture since?

AFM - I'm 3 DPO I think. Started the crinone yesterday and am really excited that I O'ed from my left. I went back to my charts and the last time I O'ed on the left was with my m/c. I've had 5 cycles with right side O's. So, maybe this is the change I needed. My temp rise was a bit weak, but I was staying at a friend's house who cranked up the a/c. Today's temps was more normal for me (back at home last night). Only time will tell. My beta is on the 20th.

[Lindz]

Planegreen....3rd time's a charm!  :)

[SilaMarila]

Sourire - Just thinking about you. I think your test date/talk to your RE about IVF date is coming up? Just wanted to send some love your way...

[Sourire]

Sila thanks. That's really sweet. Yes all the excitement happens on Thusday. The Crinone has officially kicked my ass again. I only need to survive a couple more days, though it feels like years!

[planegreen]

Forgive my ignorance - cronine is different from progesterone but used for the same thing correct? 

Stevi - I answered about prog. in your other thread.  Thought you might like it all in one place. 

How's everyone else?  Seems quiet in here this week. 

AFM - Hanging out. Waiting.  Hoping.  Had some weird twinges today but you know when you are paying attention you feel everything so it could totally be nothing.  Who knows!!!  

[Tear78]

Milk, wasn't your scan yesterday? How did it go? Thinking of you!

[Sourire]

Milk - how are things going? I'm thinking of you.

Stevi - I'm glad you got plenty of BDing in around O time. Would you like me to add a blurb for you in the first post?

Smiles - Hi! How are you doing?

planegreen - it sounds like everything was perfect for your IUI. I agree that cramping is pretty normal after an IUI. I also have always been too grossed out to have sex while taking vaginal progesterone. Crinone is a brand of progesterone in gel form inserted vaginally with an applicator. It is supposedly more effective than the pills because the gel adheres to your vaginal walls and releases the progesterone into your system slowly giving you a more stable progesterone level. I was taking the pills at first but I had a ton of spotting so my doctor switched me to the gel, which is working better for me.

Hi Gemmine!

toothfairy - sorry those herbs made you feel so horrible. My right ovary is also the lazy one.

Lindz - Welcome! I can totally relate to everything you're feeling. I also was reluctant to try IUI. It was hard for me to accept that I needed medical help to get pregnant. Instead I did a few cycles with just meds and when those didn't work I finally felt ready for IUI. Would you feel more comfortable starting with just Clomid and no IUI? I never worried too much about what would happen if IUI failed because I knew I could try IVF next which has much higher success rates than IUI. And also after 2 years of trying there is very little chance of things working on their own - if it was going to work, it would have worked already, so it's always encouraging to try something new. Would you like me to add a blurb for you in the first post?

SKJ - I have noticed that the temperature of the room I'm sleeping in can have a bit of an impact on my temp so I'm sure that's what happened with you.

AFM - so in spite of the horrible mood swings Crinone is giving me, the double dose seems to be worth it. I'm at 13dpo and I haven't had any spotting yet! On the single dose I would start spotting around 10dpo. I'm so excited to finally, for the first time in my life, have a normal LP!!!

[Stevi]

planegreen...   I appreciate that, thank you!

Sourire...   Yeah, you add me to the list. Let me look at it and see what sort of info you usually post...

[Stevi]

Okay Sourire, this should work...

(43) TTC#1 since December 2005 with NI donors. Two miscarriages in 2008. Histerosalpingogram confirms clear tubes September 2012 http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b4e62

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[SKJ2011]

Sourire - Yay for a normal LP!!! My fingers are crossed so hard for you! all the stars are aligning. Are you just going to wait for your beta tomorrow?

Milk - Thinking good thoughts for you my friend.

Planegreen - When is your beta? I really hope that this is it for you!!!

Sila - :Wave Glad to hear you ovulated on your own. Fingers crossed!

AFM - We DTD this am and when I inserted the Crinone after, there was a touch of red blood on the applicator. I'm 5 DPO. Tell me it's nothing I've decided to switch to twice a day. I have a ton of Crinone b/c I get 30 each time I refill it, so I'm going to start twice a day tonight. I figure it can't hurt. This cycle has been full of me playing doctor. If it works, maybe I should be an honorary RE
I got some awesome news yesterday. My insurance has a $15k lifetime maximum for infertility. I called to see how much damage the last 3 cycles have done and it turns out, quite to my astonishment, that only procedures go towards the max. So, that means I've only used up $212 - 3 IUI's at $70 a piece. I guess all the monitoring falls under "diagnosis" instead of treatment. This is making me so relieved b/c I was worried that if I did injectibles, I'd be screwing myself for IVF. The other piece of the puzzle is the meds. I have a $7500 lifetime max for fertility meds. No one could tell me what I've used of it. I'm waiting on a call back. But, I think that only the ovulation induction meds go towards it, so Clomid (which is so cheap I pay for it out of pocket) and maybe Ovidrel? I don't think the crinone would count towards that. So, I may burn through my meds money by doing injectibles, but at least I have the IVF procedure costs covered. Yay!

[toothfairy2be]

SKJ- that is really good news about your coverage! I didn't see anywhere on my plan that I have a lifetime maximum. I shoukd call some day to get better info. So far i've just looked up my policy online. Who do you have or insurance? Does a 15k max mean they will pay for IVF up to that or does each cycle have a certain cost? I wouldn't worry about the spotting. Your cervix becomes more tender after O and the friction from sex can irritate it. I think that on top of the crinone it isn't a problem.

Sourire- :joy so happy for a good LP, FINALLY !!!! is your beta tomorrow?? I hoe it also means you are preggo. When were you supposed to start IVF? My left ovary always wants to be dominany but my right side is the healthier ovary so I wish it would step up its game! Ihavent had pressure on the left that I usually get so fingers crossed the egg is on my right this month!

Milk- thinking of you & hoping all is well.

Planegreen- Crinone is a gel progesterone, prometrium is a capsule (oral or vaginal), endometrin s an evervescant tablet, PIO is injectable. Essentially they all do the same thing. Crinone tends to give the best results because it really sticks to your vaginal walls so you get the best absorbtion. It depends how much you need I think. Twinges can be a good sign!! When is our beta? One more week? Oh & i think you are okay to have sex on the suppositories, I usually just do it before putting a new one. Thats rare because I typically avoid 2ww sex...


AFM- we are starting to consider IVF. I'm hesitant because of my religious/ethical concerns but I think with a low stim cycle, no frozen embryos, and returning anything unused to my body (my doc said the can return them to the cervix so no implantatin but also no destroying them outside my body), I could be comfortable with it. My concern is that the best chance of conceiving after surgery is 6-9 months and I don't want to wait too long to try something more aggressive & need surgery again. So this is month 6 since my surgery and I am stilll having very light periods and very little CM. Have another appt Oct 5th, hoping for some suggestions there.

[Milk8shake]

Guys, I'm so screwed in the head right now.  I can hardly type.

The scan was at my RE's office, and he declared it a blighted ovum.  Said it was absolutely, without a doubt a chromosomal issue because no baby had developed and the yolk sac was large and irregular.  He talked to us about expectant management, misoprostal and a D&C as my options.  I chose the D&C because I wanted it over, and I wanted genetic testing.

He referred me to the maternity hospital, and then proceeded to talk to us about how we must make chromosomally abnormal babies, and we can either keep trying (and maybe get lucky like the lottery) or we could think about donor sperm/eggs/embryos.  We left with our heads spinning.  

We went to the hospital and waited a few hours before seeing a doctor.  The doctor said that it was a 3-4 hour wait for an ultrasound (they always do one pre-curette), so we made an appointment to come back in the morning, and hopefully they could get me on the afternoon list.  I didn't even think about updating here, I didn't know what to say.

I had the scan yesterday morning, and they found a "viable" pregnancy with a heartbeat.  No blighted ovum, no large and irregular yolk sac.

The sonographer said that she wouldn't condemn the doctor for making a mistake, because it was so early on, but I'm sick to my stomach thinking about if I had of accepted the misoprostal.  

Anyhow, baby measured pretty much right on for dates, but the heartbeat was a bit slower than it should be - around 108.  I can't even be happy about this right now, I'm just so confused.