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Rob Schneider Speaks Out Against Vaccines

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He has done his research! His wife is 5 months pregnant and they won't be vaccinating.

 

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That is awesome. joy.gif

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Interesting . . . I get no volume.  So I tried on youtube, there are 4 videos for this, no sound on any of them.  I tried other videos on youtube, sound works fine.  Someone doesn't want me to hear what he has to say.  Good thing I already don't vax.  LOL

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Wow! Go Rob!!! That's awesome!!

FWIW: I can't see a link here but I searched "Rob Schneider vaccine" and watched the first clip that came up. Volume worked great smile.gif
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Another informed parent to be!
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That's awesome!

 

Might I add that that California bill (AB 2109) that they are trying to pass is messed up! Out of curiosity, I looked it up and I think it is horrid.nono02.gif  Is it still under consideration of being passed? I hope not...  

 

Idk, someone inform me here. I might be behind on the times... bag.gif

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Originally Posted by Mirzam View Post

He has done his research! His wife is 5 months pregnant and they won't be vaccinating.



I wonder what kind of research he did? He claims that children today get 70 shots. He claims that you can only get hep b two ways- via IV drug use or sexual intercourse.
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I wonder what kind of research he did? He claims that children today get 70 shots. He claims that you can only get hep b two ways- via IV drug use or sexual intercourse.

And you claim?
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I wonder what kind of research he did? He claims that children today get 70 shots. He claims that you can only get hep b two ways- via IV drug use or sexual intercourse.


I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before, but he (and all non-vaxxer's when they are stating this fact) mean children are given 70 vaccines, not 70 separate shots. When you count each separate vaccine they are getting (for example: Diptheria, tetanus, and pertussis all in one shot, but three separate vaccines) it ends up equally a very high number (probably over 70, but I don't have the time to count right now) from birth to age 18.

 

Also, almost all cases in the developed world of Hep B are contracted through IV drug use or sexual intercourse. Babies (without parents or family members that are Hep B positive) aren't at risk of contracting Hep B. They only vaccinate infants against Hep B in the USA for convenience. It is easier to do it at birth and then they won't miss the vaccine later in life when they are at risk for contracting Hep B through drug use or sex. Most other countries, including Canada, don't vaccinate infants or even young children against Hep B. It's done later in life to adolescents, since infants are not at all at risk for contracting it. USA is vaccinating babies against Hep B as a matter of convenience only, it is not at all necessary for babies.

 

And..... is this not posted in the I'm Not Vaccinating forum? A forum NOT to debate vaccines, but for those that are NOT vaccinating to have a safe place to discuss. Why do others always have to come here and debate?

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I wonder what kind of research he did? He claims that children today get 70 shots. He claims that you can only get hep b two ways- via IV drug use or sexual intercourse.

 

How else can you get hep B?

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How else can you get hep B?

 Vertical transmission (from mother to baby).  Contaminated blood transfusion.  Exposure to contaminated blood (i.e. healthcare workers getting splashed by infected blood or exposed in an accident).  Saliva and tears have viral DNA.  It's not clear if they can transmit Hep B, but up to 30% of affected adults have no "obvious" other source of infection.

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Last week on Wed. 8/29th the bill was on its way to the governor.  It had been "Passed by the Legislature—On the governor’s desk for signature or veto".

People were being urged to call the governor.  I haven't heard anything since then.

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I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before, but he (and all non-vaxxer's when they are stating this fact) mean children are given 70 vaccines, not 70 separate shots. When you count each separate vaccine they are getting (for example: Diptheria, tetanus, and pertussis all in one shot, but three separate vaccines) it ends up equally a very high number (probably over 70, but I don't have the time to count right now) from birth to age 18.

 

Also, almost all cases in the developed world of Hep B are contracted through IV drug use or sexual intercourse. Babies (without parents or family members that are Hep B positive) aren't at risk of contracting Hep B. They only vaccinate infants against Hep B in the USA for convenience. It is easier to do it at birth and then they won't miss the vaccine later in life when they are at risk for contracting Hep B through drug use or sex. Most other countries, including Canada, don't vaccinate infants or even young children against Hep B. It's done later in life to adolescents, since infants are not at all at risk for contracting it. USA is vaccinating babies against Hep B as a matter of convenience only, it is not at all necessary for babies.

 

And..... is this not posted in the I'm Not Vaccinating forum? A forum NOT to debate vaccines, but for those that are NOT vaccinating to have a safe place to discuss. Why do others always have to come here and debate?

 If a child is vaccinated per the CDC schedule by the time they are 18 they have received 53 shots (not counting combos separately) and 77 if you do count combos separately. So looks like Rob may have gone to the CDC website and looked with his own eyeballs and decided perhaps - just maybe THATS CRAZY!

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 If a child is vaccinated per the CDC schedule by the time they are 18 they have received 53 shots (not counting combos separately) and 77 if you do count combos separately. So looks like Rob may have gone to the CDC website and looked with his own eyeballs and decided perhaps - just maybe THATS CRAZY!

 

53 shots?!?! That's crazy. dizzy.gif

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I love how he is approaching this as a human rights issue. 

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I love how he is approaching this as a human rights issue. 

That's my main argument with battling infant circumcision. It's a human rights violation.
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I love how he is approaching this as a human rights issue. 

 

He used the phrase "parents' rights" a bunch of times, which kind of bugged me, though.  It's not that I don't think that parents should have rights, but the only time I've heard that phrase used was in relation to a parent's right to hit their child.  

 

I also think, and maybe I'm wrong, I hope, but, even though he is right about what he says, a lot of people who either haven't thought about the issue before or who have an opposing opinion are going to have a pretty easy time deciding he's crazy.  Something about his demeanor and the way he spoke makes me feel like he'll be easy to write off, or worse.  

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He used the phrase "parents' rights" a bunch of times, which kind of bugged me, though.  It's not that I don't think that parents should have rights, but the only time I've heard that phrase used was in relation to a parent's right to hit their child.  

 

Huh.  Maybe that is a regional thing?

 

If you said "parental rights" to me, the first words that spring to mind are access (usually in custody cases), health and education.  

 

He did not come across as crazy to me at all, but he did come across as inexperienced in talking in front of the camera on vaccine issues.  I hope he sticks around, and that his comfort in expressing vaccine issues, grows.


Edited by kathymuggle - 9/6/12 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by rubidoux View Post

 

He used the phrase "parents' rights" a bunch of times, which kind of bugged me, though.  It's not that I don't think that parents should have rights, but the only time I've heard that phrase used was in relation to a parent's right to hit their child.  

 

I also think, and maybe I'm wrong, I hope, but, even though he is right about what he says, a lot of people who either haven't thought about the issue before or who have an opposing opinion are going to have a pretty easy time deciding he's crazy.  Something about his demeanor and the way he spoke makes me feel like he'll be easy to write off, or worse.  

 Parental rights seems to be an accurate word choice IMO when discussing this issue. As for how he will be viewed, I think that the provax crowd will certainly write him off - not as crazy, but as misguided and ignornat, just like they have done with Jenna McCarthy. Its simple stereotyping. Rob Schneider is a comedian. He's funny and known for silly goofy film roles where he is acting like a doofus. Because of this he couldn't possible be a smart, thoughtful parent. Just like Jenna McCarthy is a dumb blond because she posed for playboy. I don't think his demeanor or how he spoke suggested crazy at all. He sounds like a parent to be that has had the wool lifted and is making new discoveries about this issue and it upsets him and he feels pissed that the government is going to tell him he has to do something to his child that he views as harmful. Perfectly reasonable IMO

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I thought he was very compelling in front of the camera. Really passionate and informed. That was just my impression, though. If that were me I would be full of uhhh's and ummm's but for lack of a better phrase, I thought he was spittin' hot fiyah!

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