What is ADHD - Page 6

[pek64]

It is true that a diagnosis does not change the child. It does, however, often change how others *view* the child. In my situation, I felt it was important to prevent a diagnosis. I prefer not to discuss details, so please do not ask.

[Louisw]

"There is a frightening new trend in the medical community: prescribing psychoactive stimulant medication to children from low-income families to boost their academic performance.To be more clear, doctors are actually prescribing ADHD drugs to students who are academically struggling. Here’s the kicker: the kids don’t have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)."

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/10/adhd-drugs-prescribed-to-all.html

So now we see the ADHD scam expanded to include those without ADHD.

Where will this drugging insanity end?

Only we can end it by refusing all toxic drugs.
 

[Louisw]

Originally Posted by pek64 

It is true that a diagnosis does not change the child.

The toxic drugs often more or less "mandated" by an ADHD diagnosis sure can change a child; mostly for the worse.

[Louisw]

Originally Posted by kathymuggle 

Fwiw, mercury is found in some flu shots used on adult pregnant women.  In my opinion, it is more prudent to ask for a shot that does not contain mercury  if you choose to get vaccinated for the flu while pregnant.

The "seasonal flu vaccination" has proven to be totally WORTHLESS at preventing or mitigating the flu. You are taking all the risk for no reward.

If you but take a little time the following will be demonstrated.

• The CDC has CONTINUOUSLY overstated the mortality of seasonal influenza often by over 100 fold. They are NOW saying they have no idea how many die from the seasonal flu. We know it is less than 700/year for MOST years, perhaps MUCH less if based on serological results. Honest figures from the UK imply about 300/year die in the USA from nfluenza                                                                                               

  Deaths Due to Respiratory Causes in the UK, 2009 Cause of Death	Total Deaths	% of Total
  Pneumonia	28,152	40.8
  Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease (mainly bronchitis)	25,688	37.2
  Other	15,103	21.9
  Influenza	31	0.04
  Total	68,974	100

  Source: UK Office of National Statistics

• The CDC has presented a model of the seasonal flu that it totally at odds with the evidence. The CDC is pretending they do not know what is causing the flu. They KNOW. At all levels the "Seasonal Flu" information given us by HHS is egregiously incorrect.

• 86% of the time during "flu season" when you come down with "flu symptoms" it is NOT from the influenza A or B virus but by some other virus.

• The "flu vaccine" only sometimes, in theory, "protects" against influenza A and B viruses. Thus even in theory the "flu vaccine" cannot "protect" you from 86% of flu episodes.

• Honest examination of "flu vaccine" testing has found the "seasonal flu vaccine" to be completely and  totally WORTHLESS when corrected for testing biases. Honest independent testing shows "benefits" negative or too low to measure with any confidence

• The "seasonal flu" and more importantly all viral flu is caused primarily by the seasonal low in our vitamin D levels. Thus the "cure" for seasonal flu and all viral flu is sunshine and vitamin D.

• Almost all forms of the "flu vaccination" contain the extremely neurodegenerative mercury most often 25 mcg. All forms include the exceedingly toxic IMO "H1N1 vaccine"

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by pek64 

It is true that a diagnosis does not change the child. It does, however, often change how others *view* the child. In my situation, I felt it was important to prevent a diagnosis. I prefer not to discuss details, so please do not ask.

I totally respect your decision. I actually regret having my eldest evaluated (only by the school) for ADD. It turned out that they didn't give her the label which I am happy about. She did/does have some difficulties focusing but has learned techniques that help her function in the world (she's now 22). She certainly never needed or needs to be medicated.

[pek64]

Ritalin has also been given to leukemia patients to make it so they will tolerate higher chemo doses.

Edited for typo.

[catnip]

Originally Posted by Louisw 

The toxic drugs often more or less "mandated" by an ADHD diagnosis sure can change a child; mostly for the worse.

"Mandated?"

Seriously?

Because that sure wasn't my experience, either personally, where exhaustive eliminative diagnostics, and numerous occupational therapy and diet and lifestyle adjustments were tried before, about 18 months later, a decision was made to medicate.

And my daughter's pediatrician and neuropsych doctor did not even suggest meds for her. Her pediatrician, when I asked for the neuropsych referral, did bring up drugs, but only to remind me of the risks of using them (not really necessary, I was never looking to medicate, just hoping to qualify for disabled student services).

This isn't freaking Yahoo or BabyCenter, folks. I don't think that any parent that frequents these boards is the type to blindly decide to medicate their kid without carefully weighing the risks versus the benefits.

[Sharlla]

i personally have a difficult son and surely if i took him in a dr would be clammering to give him an adhd dx. if we sent him to school here they would be pushing that we medicate him but there is no way that's going to happen.  if he needs meds when he's an adult then he can make that choice for himself but i dont know what kind of damage those meds could cause to his brain. 

[Sharlla]

Originally Posted by Louisw 

Since ADHD is a syndrome and not a medically diagnosable condition we have absolutely no way to know what organic cause if any is present when someone is LABELED ADHD.

i agree with this.  there is no way to really DX ADHD.  it's 100%  "DX" at the discretion of the dr and what their opinion is.  "oh you do this this and this?  well you must have ADHD then" 

[pek64]

I am glad your experiences were good. Not all are. Some schools and doctors have reputations for pushing hard for medicating. Just like the vaccination stories, where doctors try every intimidation possible, there are ADHD medication intimidation stories. And before anyone simply shrugs it off, if you have not walked in the other person's shoes, don't judge.

[catnip]

I am not saying that pressure never happens. I am certainly not saying that medication is even USUALLY appropriate. But to say that it is mandated? That is just absurd. And to say that it is never ever appropriate is the kind of absolute language that is just ridiculous.

[pek64]

Perhaps 'mandated' is an exaggeration, but not 'absurd'.

I wonder what year(s) your diagnosis experiences occurred. Maybe that has something to do with what you experienced.

Also, I've never said you don't have ADHD or shouldn't be medicated.

You, and others here, are doing marvelous jobs of demonstrating the push for diagnosing that occurs in some schools.

[catnip]

1983

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by pek64 

I am glad your experiences were good. Not all are. Some schools and doctors have reputations for pushing hard for medicating. Just like the vaccination stories, where doctors try every intimidation possible, there are ADHD medication intimidation stories. And before anyone simply shrugs it off, if you have not walked in the other person's shoes, don't judge.

My DD's 4th grade teacher was pushing for us to medicate DD. She even expressed that opinion in one of DD's evaluation meetings. The other attendees were squirming in their seats. We flat out refused to consider medication.

[Louisw]

Originally Posted by Sharlla 

i agree with this.  there is no way to really DX ADHD.

Since we  have demonstrated that "ADHD" can be one of at least three different organic things. How in heavens name can a school nurse dx it.

If anyone is to figure out ADHD it is the parents of the child they KNOW AND LOVE so well. I am sure we know the Medical Industry loves NO ONE.

Edited by Louisw - 10/13/12 at 6:59pm

[Louisw]

Originally Posted by pek64 

Perhaps 'mandated' is an exaggeration, but not 'absurd'.

My goodness just look around. Forced drugging is growing stronger by the day. Want to send your child to school VACCINATE; want to keep your job VACCINATE; want to stay in medicine VACCINATE. Want to get an "exemption" go see a doctor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEq95DyPMjI

AIDS certainly exists and is killing people just as it was designed to do.

There are so many deadly scams involving "testing" "DX" and "Medication" it would blow  your mind. My advice is to NOT get tested. This is because a "test" can quickly lead to a "DX" and a "DX" to more or less forced "Medication".

Right now if you have been "tested" for HIV and are found positive you will soon be FORCED to take drugs that will shorten and make miserable your life. HIV does not IMO cause AIDS.

Edited by Louisw - 10/13/12 at 8:19pm

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by Louisw 

My goodness just look around. Forced drugging is growing stronger by the day. Want to send your child to school VACCINATE; want to keep your job VACCINATE; want to stay in medicine VACCINATE. Want to get an "exemption" go see a doctor.

There are so many deadly scams involving "testing" "DX" and "Medication" it would blow  your mind. My advice is to NOT get tested. This is because a "test" can quickly lead to a "DX" and a "DX" to more or less forced "Medication".

Right now if you have been "tested" for HIV and are found positive you will soon be FORCED to take drugs that will shorten and make miserable your life. HIV does not cause AIDS.

Ah. Good old AIDS denialism rears its ugly head yet again.

[Louisw]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 


Ah. Good old AIDS denialism rears its ugly head yet again.

Please show me ONE scientific paper where it is DEMONSTRATED that HIV causes AIDS. HIV = AIDS is a MYTH sold to us by the CDC and a man who had a PRIME role in the creation of AIDS Doctor Gallo.

AIDS certainly exists and is killing people just as it was designed to do.

Of course I do not deny AIDS exists. I deny HIV causes AIDS because there is NO Proof or even a decent demonstration of facts to support this myth.

Edited by Louisw - 10/13/12 at 7:22pm

[WildKingdom]

Originally Posted by Louisw 

Please show me ONE scientific paper where it is DEMONSTRATED that HIV causes AIDS. HIV = AIDS is a MYTH sold to us by the CDC and a man who had a PRIME role in the creation of AIDS Doctor Gallo.

AIDS certainly exists and is killing people just as it was designed to do.

This just keeps getting better and better.

So, who created AIDS? The Rockefellers? Rothschilds? Illuminati? And why did they create it? To what end?

[Louisw]

Originally Posted by WildKingdom 

So, who created AIDS?

“There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly, and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired.” Dr. Donald MacArthur U.S. Military biowar research to Congressmen monitoring US biological weapons development June 9 1969, Note that agent is weaponized mycoplasma

“Mycoplasma is the co-factor that alters the human immune system and opens the door for the autoimmune degenerative diseases such as AIDS, Alzheimer’s disease, Bi-Polar Disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Chronic Fatigue/ Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, Diabetes Type One, Fibromyalgia, Huntington’s disease, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinson’s disease.” Doctor Harold Clark

"According to Dr Shyh-Ching Lo, senior researcher at The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and one of America’s top mycoplasma researchers, this disease agent causes many illnesses including AIDS, cancer, chronic fatigue syndrome, Crohn’s colitis, Type I diabetes, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson’s disease, Wegener’s disease and collagen-vascular diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and Alzheimer’s. I have all the official documents to prove that mycoplasma is the disease agent in chronic fatigue syndrome/fibromyalgia as well as in AIDS, multiple sclerosis and many other illnesses."  Donald W. Scott MA

"1984 CDC acknowledges that 60% of those receiving the hepatitis vaccine are HIV +."   CDC, Note this is certainly proof something is VERY WRONG

May 1987 The Times of London reported on its front page that smallpox vaccine administered by the World Health organization had triggered HIV/AIDS. 100 Million vaccinated Africans are at risk. Areas with highest vaccination rate show highest HIV/AIDS rates. Robert Gallo, discoverer of the HIV/AIDS virus, defends those figures and says, "AIDS researchers will keep their mouths shut because they are paid to do so."

1992 Lancet, Journal of the British Medical Association, reports (3/7/92) that the oral polio vaccine used in the mid 1970's to treat recurrent herpes was contaminated with a number of potentially dangerous retroviruses, and may have seeded HIV among Americans'.

"There is no question that HIV was introduced into the U.S. male homosexual population via the gay hepatitis B vaccine experiment that took place between 1978 and 1981. My research clearly supports the outbreak of AIDS cases in Los Angeles and San Francisco shortly after the experiment began in those cities. Not surprisingly, the government has refused to release data on the number of AIDS deaths that have occurred in the large group of gay men who initially volunteered for the vaccine experiment."  Dr Alan Cantwell

“Numerous doctors have started treating their AIDS patients with either increased amounts of supplemental selenium or the four basic components of glutathione, selenium, glutamine, cysteine and tryptophan, with remarkable results.”   Doctor David Williams

“HIV is a harmless passenger virus that has lived in people for centuries.”            Doctor Peter Duesberg PhD

Please show me ONE scientific paper where it is DEMONSTRATED that HIV causes AIDS. HIV = AIDS is a MYTH sold to us by the CDC and a man who had a PRIME role in the creation of AIDS Doctor Gallo.