Hi all, Aura- I'm sorry I don't have experience with donor sperm and, luckily, it sounds like I may not get experience with donor eggs. Vireos- This is why I like that my clinic only makes you wait 11 days. AFM- I have to wait until my next period to start my cycle due to wonky results. They think there was probably a lab error. The positive part of this is that I can go see my mom for the high holidays and that we don't have to worry about having the same or even similar due date to the one we had with the boys.
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Fall IVF: beautiful fall leaves bringing beautiful summer babies!! - Page 6post #101 of 7629/21/12 at 11:01ampost #102 of 7629/21/12 at 11:48amVireoes -- Yeah. Only a few more days, right?
Aura -- It has never been a huge issue for me. I didn't know until I was 11 or 12, because you can't really explain donor sperm until you can explain biological reproduction, how it works, and how it sometimes doesn't work. By that point I had two adopted younger brothers and was very clear on the concept that family and parents are about a lot more than DNA. My siblings do know although one of them tends to actually forget, but most of the older extended family does not -- no one wants to explain and we don't think it matters anyway.
I conceptualize it as being sort of half-adopted, just really early. It probably also helped that "carrying on the line" was never a thing in my family. The man who raised me, who loves me, who worked (still works) really really hard to support us (my mom and sister still), who taught me how to maintain a house and a car, and who is currently driving 30 minutes to my house everyday to give me my PIO shot because he is very very nice -- that man is my father. I have never been all that interested in the sperm donor although I would really like to have more medical info than they gave you in 1980.
AFM -- So I broke out in hives last night. It was an exciting morning -- apparently you get to talk to a real person very quickly when you are reporting breaking out in hives to the IVF clinic. Now I am using PIO in ethyl oleate instead of in sesame oil. We will see how this goes.post #103 of 7629/21/12 at 1:02pmLaura, you're amazing! Thank you for sharing. I read it to my dh and we both got teary when you talked about your dad. It meant a lot for us to hear that, so thanks again!
I'm sorry you got hives! My original reaction was from ethyl oleate, so now I'm on olive oil. I have a sensitivity to walnuts so we skipped sesame altogether. The ethyl oleate is a little thinner, so hopefully you'll be more comfortable!
Afm, we just transferred two expanded blasts that thawed nicely. They only had to thaw two, which was a relief, and two are still frozen. Dr t had my dh and myself laughing the whole time, the ultrasound was bouncing all over the place. We now have an hour car ride home, then I will lay on the couch, eat spicy Thai food, and watch movies.post #104 of 7629/21/12 at 2:12pm
Aura - That is great news that you only had to thaw 2!!!! So excited for you!!!! Sending you lots of sticky vibes!! What were you and DH laughing about??? Like your new profile pic! Cute!!! I'm hanging in there thanks...You will have to check out my latest update on the other side.
Laura - sorry to hear about your reaction. Sure hope this new oil is better. That is the worst!!! I hated those shots!!! Fingers crossed that the rest of your TWW goes by fast!
Vireoes - Hope this next week flies by for you!!
Silver - glad you got on the list and are on you way!!!! Fingers crossed for you!!
Daisy Mae - I hope you get the test results figured out, but I think it is good that your RE isn't concerned.post #105 of 7629/21/12 at 3:06pm
auraleigh, exciting news on good frosties that were transferrable. Looking forward to good news for you in a couple of weeks.
laura-belle - my DH and I are struggling with extremely low sperm counts (25 sperm on the last full count). When DH had his first sperm analysis, he was told he had zero sperm and I was considering donor sperm. I wanted biological children of DH. We at least have a chance with the frozen sperm that the doctors did find, even though the numbers are extremely low. Thank you for sharing your story as it is encouraging to me if the necessity exists for my DH and me to consider donor sperm.post #106 of 7629/21/12 at 4:51pmThread Starterpost #107 of 7629/21/12 at 5:20pm
Lila we had extremely low counts as well the worst one was 29. The embryologist said they had everyone in the lab looking for good sperm to ICSI my eggs on the day of my retrieval.
From that cycle we have our amazing twins. . After my first IVF the RE told us we had a 5% chance to conceive with Dhs sperm so we did a couple of Ds IUIs. We then changed REs and he told us that as long as there was some sperm we had a good shot. We had our BFP on our first try with him. Needless to say we are extremely happy with how things went.post #108 of 7629/21/12 at 5:53pm
Aura: Congrats on your transfer! Good luck! I hope your sore bottom gets better soon.
Laura-belle: You poor thing have the hives gone down? R your shots any better with the new meds? This is not making me looking forward to my shots and I'll have to do them myself! I hope the wait isn't killing you. Hang in there! Thanks so much for your comments on ebing donnor conceived. It's intresting what you say about being told at 11. In the UK now most people are advising telling as soon as you can so they never remember not knowing, then it's not a thing one must have a talk about. I know people who are making baby books for their toddles to explain. Then again I think school start reproduction at 5yrs.
Vireos: glad your surving your tww. I didn't realise we had so many twwers on here. Better ready the dancing vegtables!
Deborah: Glad you get to see you mother. Are you doing another own eggs cycle then? Did they sort out the risks for you of retival?
rcr: Hope your enjoying your trip.
AFM: Am very please becuse my NHS clinic has just written to say I can have another privet cycle and still get my NHS cycle for free it I'm not pregant when my place comes up next year! I didn't even have to spend a stamp to ask them! I'm really pleased becuase it makes me feel better about paying for this round if I know I can have another free round if it fails. I'd better start looking at sperm donor and vitiamins again! Thanks for all your commnets about the councilor I'm glad I'm not the only one to think it off I don't think she ment to say it she was talking about telling early as she had worked with a boy who was upset when he was told as a teenager that his dad wasn't his real dad. I wish I'd said "you mean his real dad is not his gentic father". The re seemed the other way to make too little of donnor eggs saying it was only a couple of cells and like a blood transfusion. Well my future children might happen to think they are pretty important cells and blood transusion won't affect the carateritics and inheritance of my child! Anyway back to the longer than tww for me.
rcr could you change my blub to Waiting to be matched to a egg donnor for double donnor IVF when you get back please?post #109 of 7629/21/12 at 6:18pmpost #110 of 7629/21/12 at 7:54pmpost #111 of 7629/21/12 at 8:09pm
Hi ladies, I think I'm ready to jump in here. I'm currently on CD2 of my first IVF cycle. I know several of you from the ONE thread, but I hope to get to know the rest of you better. Just a little about me - Dh and I began fertility treatments last year after dealing with infertility since early 2007. In the past year we've done 5 IUI cycles, 3 on Femara and 2 on injectibles. I was diagnosed with PCOS several years ago, and a few months ago we found out my AMH levels are very low. Our RE had a chart and my numbers basically fell in the 48+ years old range (I'm 28), which is very strange in a PCOS patient. Dh's sperm may also have difficulty penetrating an egg, so we will be doing ICSI. Tomorrow morning I'll be going in for my base ultrasound and bloodwork, and on Monday I will be beginning BCPs. I'll also be doing a uterine biopsy this month to hopefully make my lining more sticky. As anxious as I am to get started, I am scared. I imagine that's pretty normal though. So that's me. I'm going to go back and catch up on the thread a bit to hopefully learn more about all of you.post #112 of 7629/22/12 at 3:58ampost #113 of 7629/22/12 at 8:02amThread StarterHi all. I am in the airport heading home. I just caught up on the last few pages.
Sourie - I want to respond to you but it is too much to type from my phone, so I will later. Glad to see you here! I did estrogin priming on the only cycle that I had fertilization, but I was on huge doses of follistim too - like 800/day. I was only on 150 when I was doing iuis. But I am not a good responder. I think it was the estrogin that gave me better quality this last time.post #114 of 7629/22/12 at 8:03pmAura -- Thanks Yay that you only had to thaw two! Thinking sticky thoughts!
Lilac -- You're welcome I wish you the best of luck with your eventual IVF.
Silver -- That is great that you can do your paid cycle and still have the free one if you need it.
shesaidboom -- Welcome! Hopefully your ultrasound and bloodwork went well. Anxiety is pretty normal -- I think all of us have been there. Good luck!
AFM -- on PIO: So far so good with the ethyl oleate suspension. *knocks on wood* The shot is a bit faster too. Nothing else new so far.post #115 of 7629/23/12 at 6:21amGood morning ladies!
Laura, excellent! I hope ethyl oleate is your magic medium! I did two shots last night (e2v and progesterone) and they are fine. But that one stinking week old spot from last Sunday is now larger than a softball, and turning from red to purple. grrrrr. How is your 2ww so far? What is your beta day again? I know we are close!
Rcr, welcome home! Can't wait to hear about your trip!
Lilac, where there is a sperm, there's a way!!
Shesaidboom, welcome!!! I also have PCOS, and I in my 2ww now. You'll do great! It's absolutely natural to be nervous, but you just need to trust that your RE knows what to do. Do you like your dr? What is the game plan? I did the biopsy too, I hope it makes the difference!
Blue, I feel shy to comment on the other side but I'm fully caught up and cheering for you!
Silver, so glad you can you do a private cycle and still qualify for a free one!
Afm, 2dp5dt. I feel fine, great, relaxed. Trying to envision these little blasts implanting. I know we've done everything we can and my hormone levels are nice and high, so now I wait.post #116 of 7629/23/12 at 7:50am
RCR- Sorry to be such a pest, but can you change my blurb again? Me (30), DH (30) Fertility challenges: Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism, Endometriosis, Diminished Ovarian Reserves; also homozygous positive for MTHFR. Retesting Day 3 bloodwork around mid-october due to lab error. Retrieval and Transfer likely in early to mid December.post #117 of 7629/23/12 at 9:15amThread Starter
I am back from my trip. Had a wonderful time. I am still getting caught up.
Aura/Laura - I was in San Francisco to do research. Part of my job involves doing research, so I have a small travel budget to travel each year. I am working on a project in San Francisco. I have a lovely time. I am a transplant from Chicago to a rural area in the south, which has no good food, little diversity, etc. So going to a city every once in a while keeps me sane. I ate so much and walked so much.
Deborah - looks like we may be cycle buddies. I am doing my cycle in mid December too (have to be in Vegas on Dec 3.)
Aura - cute profile pic. :) I am glad you are relaxing. When is your beta?
silver - that is wonderfiul news that you can do a private cycle and get a free one! When do you get started?
Shesaid - welcome to this thread. We are happy you are here! I have also been TTC since 2007. How many follies did you see at your baseline? What is your protocol like?
Lilac - my DH has poor sperm quality. He has plenty of sperm, but most of them have poor morphology, etc. We are doing a 50/50 cycle with DH and donor sperm. Last time we did it all of the donor sperm fertilized and none of DHs did. However, the doc still thinks it is a egg quality issue.
Laura - thanks for sharing your story about donor sperm. They really do give a lot of info nowdays. My donor even allows contact with the kid when he/she turns 18. We paid extra for that, but I thought I would keep the option open in case the child is curious someday. How are the PIO shots? I switched to ethyl for this last IVF cycle too, and I liked it a lot. BTW - I do my own PIO shots - DH works out of town all week, so I don't have anybody to do them. It was really hard at first, but I got used to it. that is really nice of your dad to do them for you.
Sourire - welcome over here (not sure if I said that yet). I like estrogin priming. I had better quality with it, after two IVFs with no fertilization, I finally got fertilization with estrogen priming. I did the shots, but only twice a week for two weeks. I also did the suppositories every day. I think SIRM like estrogen for people with egg quality issues.
I am going back to update for those who asked.post #118 of 7629/23/12 at 2:39pm
Debhoura: I'm glad they've found a safe way to get your eggs.
Sehsaidboom: Welcome. I'm sure your in with a good shot with IVF good luck!
Luara-belle: I'm glad your getting on better with your new meds.
Lilac: Good luck with your savings I'm sure your on your way to a lovely baby.
Aura: well done for being relaxed I'm glad your hormones are good. Do you mind telling me what drugs your on and when your hormones got tested to check your progestrone right? I really want to get in right next time.
rcr: that sounds like a good trip. I love San Fransico my cousin is off to San Fransico soon lucky thing. I don't know exactly when I'll start it depends when I can be matched with a donnor. When I rang in August the said they were giving ec dates of october so proably November or december I'm hoping. Could be earlier I guess.post #119 of 7629/23/12 at 2:53pmpost #120 of 7629/23/12 at 3:26pm
Rcr, I love the Bay Area! Good friends of mine lived in Oakland for years and I had the pleasure of visiting. I'm sure you starved for the options of city life, eh? Oh I wanted to ask, you have chickens, correct? There is a house I drive by daily on my way to work that has built four chicken coops, with a run, and a strip of wildflowers for the chickens to wander through. It makes me think of you! I am so jealous, I want to stop by and ask if I can visit their chickens. I live in a very suburban area between NYC and Philly, so it's not often I get to see chickens on the side of the road just having a snack.
Silver, I am currently on progesterone in olive oil, E2V for injection, starting tonight E2V/Progesterone suppositories, folgard, dexamethasone, and cipro. The only reason I'm having my levels checked so often is because I've gotten my period early for my past two IVF cycles. Dr Wong was more than willing to explore the possibility that I have an issue with my levels post transfer, and that's why I'm so medicated right now. I believe Dr T thinks I'm being slightly silly in getting the levels checked so often as I'm overloaded with estrogen and progesterone, but I figure, better safe than sorry. We checked the progesterone four days after starting injections for the FET and it was 50, which is higher than my friend who is 10 weeks pregnant with twins! We will also check again tomorrow, but Dr T said I'll be fine because my levels are so high.
AFM, spent the the day relaxing again. It's not quite bed rest since I was up and about straightening the house, but I'm doing a lot more lounging than normal. A few slight cramps here and there, but I've had those since I started the progesterone. I had DH get me some pineapple for today, which seems like a tradition at this point. I even watched an episode of Keeping Up With the Kardashians because Chloe is starting some sort of fertility treatments, and Kim is doing a stim cycle to freeze her eggs. A coworker told me about it so I figured I'd watch. I think Chloe is on Clomid? I laughed so hard at Kim trying to inject stims into her stomach. That girl is a mess. It didn't even look like the drugs made it where they had to go. Too funny! I hope they get whatever they are looking for, whether it's just ratings, or babies.
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