Vaccination Causes Diabetes - Page 2

[katelove]

Originally Posted by prosciencemum 

I've never thought of diabetes as an auto-immune disease. Are we talking type 1 or type 2 (I do understand they are completely different). 1 is a failure to produce insulin at all right - 2 is to do with your body not correctly regulating insulin production. Where does the immune system come in? 
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Type one diabetes has always been classified as autoimmune. Insulin-producing cells in the pancreas are distroyed by the body. There may be more than one trigger for this. Viruses have strongly implicated and newly diagnosed Type one diabetics may have a recent history of viral illness.

Type two diabetes was previously thought to be a metabolic disorder. It is usually a combination of reduced insulin production by the pancreas and increased insulin resistance in the tissues. Both were thought to be related to age nd lifestyle factors. It is now thought that the immune system has a role in causing insulin resistance in the tissues, hence the call for reclassification as an autoimmune disease. It isn't yet clear what may trigger the immune system to cause insulin resistance.

[prosciencemum]

Thanks I stand corrected on Type 1. Wikipedia article on it backs you up too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus_type_1

It's interesting to learn about new research on type 2 as well. I had GD, so am at increased risk of Type 2 unfortunately, as are both my kids. 

However, the tiny amount of research I've done suggests the verdict is as best out on if there is a link between vaccines and diabetes. For example I stumbled across this (posted in another thread here) which is a review of safety studies of vaccines. 

http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=13164

The say: 

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the evidence shows that vaccines do not cause several conditions. For example, the MMR vaccine is not associated with autism or childhood diabetes. Also, the DTaP vaccine is not associated with diabetes and the influenza vaccine given as a shot does not exacerbate asthma.

[katelove]

Originally Posted by prosciencemum 

Thanks I stand corrected on Type 1. Wikipedia article on it backs you up too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus_type_1

It's interesting to learn about new research on type 2 as well. I had GD, so am at increased risk of Type 2 unfortunately, as are both my kids. 

However, the tiny amount of research I've done suggests the verdict is as best out on if there is a link between vaccines and diabetes. For example I stumbled across this (posted in another thread here) which is a review of safety studies of vaccines. 

http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=13164

The say: 

the evidence shows that vaccines do not cause several conditions. For example, the MMR vaccine is not associated with autism or childhood diabetes. Also, the DTaP vaccine is not associated with diabetes and the influenza vaccine given as a shot does not exacerbate asthma.

I'm delighted that wiki supports my 16 years of clinical practice and post-graduate study

I also have GD this time around so am taking more of an interest in DM Type II than I ever have previously.

However I'm making no claims either way about the vaccine link as I haven't looked into it at all. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility but, as I say, it's not something I've looked at. I really only responded to this thread to clarify the diabetes question.

[prosciencemum]

Originally Posted by katelove 


I'm delighted that wiki supports my 16 years of clinical practice and post-graduate study

LOL! I'm a skeptic - so like to double check stuff, and I didn't know you had 16 years of clinical practice and post-graduate study. You should be proud of me for not just trusting the word of someone on the internet! ;) 

I appreciate the help with my understanding. :) 

[katelove]

Originally Posted by prosciencemum 

Originally Posted by katelove 

I'm delighted that wiki supports my 16 years of clinical practice and post-graduate study

LOL! I'm a skeptic - so like to double check stuff, and I didn't know you had 16 years of clinical practice and post-graduate study. You should be proud of me for not just trusting the word of someone on the internet!  

I appreciate the help with my understanding.  

:-) I am proud of you. I would have checked too.

And you are most welcome.