Children, Vaccination, Tylenol, Glutathione, Mercury, Asthma and SIDS - Page 2

[Louisw]

Originally Posted by Louisw 

Well the old man got his wish. So the question was how was my brat daughter going to comfort me through MY PAIN.

How could I be mad at her. Looking at her was like looking at myself in the mirror of my past. Being a boy I was of course worse. well with everything but the sex stuff.

[Imakcerka]

You realize louisw that you are saying that ALL ailments are theoritcally the fault of the parent or person who is injured or ill?

And I'm pretty sure you believe that since I've seen you say some really inconsiderate things all over this board.  But whatever, you seem to enjoy yourself.

[~Adorkable~]

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 
I have nothing to say about vax and it's not really an issue at this point.  If there is a safe and effective pain reliever out there I'd like to know about it.  Wouldn't you?  I have given my girls tylenol and mortin only a handful of times.  Ear infections, broken bones, and the most recent dental work that left my oldest in a lot of pain.  I don't go out of my way to medicate and thankfully I've rarely had the need to do so.  Antibiotics have only been used twice for the little one due to ear infections that didn't let up and none for the oldest. 

yeah i hear you  there, i dont have the answers, i was just spreading some info that i feel like too many folks dont know and innocently disrupt he vax process after deciding to va their kids.  i agree that he talk here does not really have much to do with vax, im just kinda sick of being jumped on when i say stuff about how to work with vaxxing.

i think for broken bones and dental work that analgesics are totally warranted and i dont personally believe that hey are going to kill your kids. i use advil for the worst of the teething and once to break a very high fever, but for the rest of the fevers, thankfully a rare thing in my house we use nice showers and fluids. for local pain from shots ,we use massage and distraction.  we are just now dealing with a cold in both my toddler twins and myself and wish dealry that there was something that i could give them that would work, i know there is no magic pill in this case at this age. so warm showers and a humidifier and lots of snuggles will have to do. it makes me feel so helpless, i cant even begin to think of the first broken bone.

Originally Posted by Louisw 

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 

Ear infections, broken bones, and the most recent dental work that left my oldest in a lot of pain. 

Broken bones may indicate low vitamin D levels and/or low magnesium levels. IMO make sure his vitamin D levels are at 60 ng/ml or better. This is PROVEN to help with chronic pain. Magnesium deficiency may also cause chronic pain.

wow, i hope you can get why this comes across as annoying way to communicate to some folks. 

even if you had something really amazing and helpful to say, you would have few listeners with the way you go at things. Ever think broken bones might be from a kid being a rough houser and perhaps just falling out of a tree house? Better yet, how about not even assuming how this ladies poor kid got hurt and just have compassion, rather than using it as a way to make a point  you so desperately seem to need to make.

Edited by ~Adorkable~ - 9/25/12 at 11:22am

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ 

Broken bones may indicate low vitamin D levels and/or low magnesium levels. IMO make sure his vitamin D levels are at 60 ng/ml or better. This is PROVEN to help with chronic pain. Magnesium deficiency may also cause chronic pain.

even if you had something really amazing and helpful to say, you would have few listeners with the way you go at things. Ever think broken bones might be from a kid being a rough houser and perhaps just falling out of a tree house? Better yet, how about not even assuming how this ladies poor kid got hurt and just have compassion, rather than using it as a way to make a point  you so desperately seem to need to make.

Well, I am listening, because he speaks the inconvenient truth, which can be hard to hear sometimes.

Nutrition, has a great deal to to do with bone integrity. Read Pottinger's Cats: A Study in Nutrition: Chapter 11, Milk and the Human Skeleton. Obviously a fall from a height can cause a broken bone or a fracture, even in an child with optimal nutrition and vitamin D levels.

Edited by Mirzam - 9/23/12 at 7:08am

[Mirzam]

As for dental pain, my son had a extra tooth extracted from his inside his gums. The surgery took over one hour, with a local anesthetic and gas (I opted not to give him a general). His pain was managed without any pharmaceutical pain medication, I used only homeopathic remedies and other vibrational remedies; he did not need anything else to ease the pain.

[~Adorkable~]

im sure you are.

of course diet affect bones to some probably pretty large extent. but for  the lady who's son was hurt, he presented it like his injures were the fault of bad parenting, when she never said what happened and he never asked. 

you would never put up with a doctor speaking to you like that, why do you put up with a "alternative" health person prancing around like he is doing. i dont even care what the right or wrong of what he is says is, it was not what my post was about, i was pointing out the delivery issues.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ 

im sure you are.

of course diet affect bones to some probably pretty large extent. but for  the lady who's son was hurt, he presented it like his injures were the fault of bad parenting, when she never said what happened and he never asked. 

you would never put up with a doctor speaking to you like that, why do you put up with a "alternative" health person prancing around like he is doing. i dont even care what the right or wrong of what he is says is, it was not what my post was about, i was pointing out the delivery issues.

I did not get the impression Lou was blaming a child's broken bone on bad parenting, he merely pointed out that vitamin D is essential for strong, healthy bones, which is correct. 

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. If you choose to take it negatively, that is your issue.

[Imakcerka]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

I did not get the impression Lou was blaming a child's broken bone on bad parenting, he merely pointed out that vitamin D is essential for strong, healthy bones, which is correct. 

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. If you choose to take it negatively, that is your issue.

WHICH IS BLAMING!! Any way you look at it. You know your childs tooth extraction? Not going to ask you if it was because he had overcrowding because that would be logical. I will kindly remind you that his dental issues are all your fault. You inadequately prepared the enamel around his teeth by whatever method you chose? And did they numb that tooth with willow bark? Because if they didn't they may have ruined your child FOR LIFE!!!!

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 

 

WHICH IS BLAMING!! Any way you look at it. You know your childs tooth extraction? Not going to ask you if it was because he had overcrowding because that would be logical. I will kindly remind you that his dental issues are all your fault. You inadequately prepared the enamel around his teeth by whatever method you chose? And did they numb that tooth with willow bark? Because if they didn't they may have ruined your child FOR LIFE!!!!

This is a ridiculous vindictive post.

[~Adorkable~]

Imakcerka, i wouldnt even bother, i have been in the thread with this person and its not worth it. the lack of logic will drive you nuts and i'm sure you dont need more stress in your life, non of us do.

Mirzam, i was not actually talking to you, and if you want to listen to him, be my guest, he does not have to reach out to you, you are his choir. have fun, i have no urge to get into a useless circular stress fest with you or any other person.

[Imakcerka]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

This is a ridiculous vindictive post.

Really? I apologize then. Carry on.

[Imakcerka]

Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ 

Imakcerka, i wouldnt even bother, i have been in the thread with this person and its not worth it. the lack of logic will drive you nuts and i'm sure you dont need more stress in your life, non of us do.

Mirzam, i was not actually talking to you, and if you want to listen to him, be my guest, he does not have to reach out to you, you are his choir. have fun, i have no urge to get into a useless circular stress fest with you or any other person.

but but but... whatever will we do on pissy monday mornings?

[TCMoulton]

Originally Posted by Mirzam 

This is a ridiculous vindictive post.

Actually it's quite accurate about how many many threads go here....in several forums.

[Cynthia Mosher]

This thread is another of the same few people posting very aggressive and personal stuff against each other. I think it's time to draw a line and start issuing warnings. if you don't want to receive one, edit any attacking, personally pointed posts you have made.

[~Adorkable~]

i reframed my wording.

ETA:

i sincerely hope that i am not the only person here being accused of personal attacks, if mine was one (i'm not particularly saying it wasn't, hence i'm happy to take a deep breath and reframe) then it was one of many.

[Imakcerka]

Yeah, I kinda went off on Mirzam's ability to go along with blaming all that ails the normal person on the parent and not just life.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by Imakcerka 

Yeah, I kinda went off on Mirzam's ability to go along with blaming all that ails the normal person on the parent and not just life.

Sigh, I do no such thing, this is yet again a ridiculous statement. 

[~Adorkable~]

Mirzam, why is it that a few of us have done our best to take deep breaths and own our opinions and you continue to chide and not work on your part of it? You posted when we were not even talking to or about you and called folks honest thoughts an feelings "vindictive" and "ridiculous".  Please consider for a moment the hypocrisy in that and maybe participate in our deep breath as well?

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ 

Mirzam, why is it that a few of us have done our best to take deep breaths and own our opinions and you continue to chide and not work on your part of it? You posted when we were not even talking to or about you and called folks honest thoughts an feelings "vindictive" and "ridiculous".  Please consider for a moment the hypocrisy in that and maybe participate in our deep breath as well?

Adorkable, you might have done your best, but other posters have not. I did not continue this, they did.

[Cynthia Mosher]

Originally Posted by ~Adorkable~ 

i reframed my wording.

ETA:

i sincerely hope that i am not the only person here being accused of personal attacks, if mine was one (i'm not particularly saying it wasn't, hence i'm happy to take a deep breath and reframe) then it was one of many.

Thank you for reframing. :)